I have looked at the phones and I believe they will stem the migration to ATT from those who desire the iPhone, The LGs look good and feature wise are ahead of the iPhone.

In fact many who migrated to ATT for the iPhone may pay the ETF to go back to their first choice.

No offense I really don't see that happening in a big way the people who would switch would have switched anyway for various other reasons, I find it so funny how these Verizon fan boys get all excited when they get a half way decent line up of phones. in my opinion none of the phones would spark the massive interest the Iphone has sparked .Now don't get it twisted I like the Iphone for what it is which is a very easy to use internet, Ipod ,and emailing device for the masses but if you are a power user you would be better served by another phone , I'm a Htc 8525 guy who is about to make the jump to the 8925(tilt) when it comes to AT&T,check the specks , now thats power baby, also the Nokia N95 is a sweet phone but lets be real people both ph...
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I currently have the tilt... Go for it 😉 no dissapointments. The faster processor speeds and easy access shortcuts make it an ease

cwcanty said:
your UI argument is a bit ridiculous cause it's completed revamped and just as functional as any other UI ive seen. And the phone is no more crippled than the iphone.

Agreed ... Plus, like Apple/ATT did such a great job with that iphone battery 😲

Wow, a little defensive there cwcanty. Boulderboy, stated his opinion (you as well), and it encountered with what's wrong with at&t's UI,SIM, and coverage in your area. You my friend are hard core VZW. (respect for standing up for your carrier). 😎

Yean,

Yeah, i'll be honest I am vzw fan. I dont agree with everything they do. I just think people are soooo hard on them for certain issues.

And Im really getting sick of hearing about how att is great cuz they have sim cards. Sim cards don't make your service any better, it just makes it slightly easier to use your phone.

vzw has it's flaws, but I just really believe that it is the best carrier overall for most situations.

Chris

I feel the same with Sprint, that's why I respect your opinion. You have a lot of heart, and not afraid to voice your opinion of your carrier.
Me, myself, prefer Sprint over any carrier, due to plans, pricing, J2me, etc. but that's a different story.
I wonder if VZW will join the SIM club with LTE? I think LTE is going to be GREAT for VZW. Voda and VZW going AIP for data...AWSOME (if there's no cap)
Sorry for going off subject. To respond to your thread. YES, with VZW's line-up. This WILL effect ALL carriers, not just at&t. I'm drooling over the line up.

Yeah, sprint has some great prices and great plans...im just kind of big on customer service and i know sprint is lackin in that dept.

The cell world is really changing fast...and Im glad to see that all carriers are really making strides to improve their offerings.

Agree my friend, I totally agree. I'm fascinated with technology. Cheers.

Sprint's customer service has gotten much better.

maybe....but it still can't touch verizon's

cwcanty said:
...im just kind of big on customer service .

Do you call customer service everyday? I mean, WTF?

no, but when I do call, I like to know that my problem will be resolved in a timely manner with people that are easy to understand and are polite.

Im just big on customer service in general. Whether it's eating out a restaurant, picking up dry cleaning or cell phone companies. I think customer service is a lost art and is something that I personally value.

got cha! I've only had a problem with ATT's customer service once, and it was somewhat my fault. Everytime I've called I've had my problem or question taken care of.

Yeah, Im sure its kind of a hit or miss situation. I just feel like verizon is very good and very consistent when it comes to customer service. And thats more important to me than griping about bluetooth crippling or the standard UI

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I dont think they are high end data devices, just semi knock offs of the sync which is still great phones, and the 5700 is a starcom pda which from what i hear is suppose to be pretty decent

5700 is not made by UTStarcom, it's made by a Chinese company called Amoi.

the 5700 is a utstarcom phone...the carrier is at&t... it will be a nice addition to smart-phones.. nokia also makes a 5700 series.. so im sure that this amoi company make a 5700 as well.. its all the same in the cell bizz son...

Are ya sure ya don't mean the 5800?

Some are entry, and some are high end.

ANY sonys... the ones online will come off of exclusive eventually, but by then they'll be old and no one will want them. Making a phone an online exclusive is freaking retarded. They're already allowed to make up their own prices instead of following market guidelines, and they're allowed to advertise and say things like "the best deals are always online". They don't need any help getting revenue, and it hurts their COR stores too.

When's the last time there was an agent exclusive device?

We have one. The samsung x497 😉

🤣 isnt that phone ancient?!?!?!?!

yeah we have it, the COR stores don't and they sure is hell don't sell it online. Its exclusive lol.

Bigbmc26 said:
There will also be a i617 (Blackjack 2), CU920(Prada), and CU720 (Shine). ATT will be just fine.

AT&T will ALWAYS be ahead phone-wise, and network-wise (next year). This whole thread is silly.

They've been the same for about 2 years. Its about time for a change.

I concur. I'd like to see changes as well.

changes would be nice...but the more important change is on the data side. I think the minute packages are pretty fair.

I believe there are some new packages coming out this week as well

Shared data would be nice as well as some cheaper pda options.

how much cheaper can PDA's get? I think their pretty reasonable at the moment. You figure you're gonna pay atleast $200 for one. I think verizon has a few options in that price range.

I do agree with the data tho. They have got to do something and fast! Their prices are just too much. $45 for data is becoming more and more ridiculous every single day.

I didnt' mean PDA phones, I meant PDA data rates.

o well that be be...but by the time of wimax cheaper and faster highspeed internet with a much better handset selection will all dimmer down.

You people don't realize that most people dont care about high speed data. They want reliable service at fair prices. High speed is not a concern for the average consumer. And most people could care less about 4g, and most dont even care about 3g

Sprint should spend less money on their network and more on their customer service, I think that would do more to brink back some customers!

Skrew that...what do you think is the way of the future..????? huh...? data...people back in the early 90's didnt care 2 much about the mobile phone but look now...people in the early 2000 didnt care to much about HDtv but look now...cmon man are you really that archaic

archaic...simma down. Im 25, and I have two 42 inch HDTVs in my condo...

My point is simple, currently the MAJORITY of wireless consumer are not concerned with how fast they can check email or myspace. I know our generation might be. But we are just one small piece. I just don't see people running out to get sprint because they have 4g. Most people will probably still be asking.."what does 4g mean"

And making a boost from 3g to 4g is nothing compared to the government MANDATING digital television by a set date. People are pretty much being forced into hdtv (which Im okay with). No one is forced to sign up for vcast or mobile tv.

True..but once the 4g devices come out...there wont be a need to ask what does it do..? i know sprint will advertise the hell out of its VoIP and 2way video calling...people will jump on that. Reason att's video calling isnt selling because who wants to do a 1way video conference...

lol...yeah the one way is kinda lame. Their high speed date network will help them....just not enough to surpass att or verizon in the next 3-5 years

cwcanty said:
archaic...simma down. Im 25, and I have two 42 inch HDTVs in my condo...

My point is simple, currently the MAJORITY of wireless consumer are not concerned with how fast they can check email or myspace. I know our generation might be. But we are just one small piece. I just don't see people running out to get sprint because they have 4g. Most people will probably still be asking.."what does 4g mean"

And making a boost from 3g to 4g is nothing compared to the government MANDATING digital television by a set date. People are pretty much being forced into hdtv (which Im okay with). No one is forced to sign up for vcast or mobile tv.

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Good post...and def agree with you. People on phonescoop think everybody is obsessed with phones, meanwhile, we phone junkies are not the norm.

Chris

You guys are not as obsessed as those on Howard Forums. These guys take off work when a phone is due from FEDEx. I guess it's a cheap obsession though as compared to motorcycles and cars.

Really most people I know over 30ish do not bother with extra features much and really just want a cheap reliable phone and service.

Life becomes more involved and busy with wives and maybe kids and career/job tasks. Having the latest and greatest cell phone is not even on the list of "things I want" Plasma and LCD TVs, buying a home, PAYING FOR a home is much higher on the list.

very true...Im in my twenties, but I after purchasing a house and going through all that at 23, my priorities changed very quickly. I dont have a wife and kids yet, but Im sure cell phones will fall way down the list when those things come into my life.

I hope proof reading and spell check are the "way of the future."

I agree with you on Sprint correcting their customer service. As chainsaw pointed earlier, Sprint "may" have the worst customer service ( I believe it's the top 400 companies...still bad though. ), but some people may not care and don't deal with customer service.
Different strokes for different folks. The thing about Sprint is, there's TOO MANY options for customers. When you have too many options, you have more problems. VZW on the other hand Keeps It Simple Stupid (KISS). VZW plays a smart role in business and advertising. Sprint wants their customer base to assume I guess. Only if I could run Sprint, *sigh*, I change the company for the better. I guess, I'll start off one day at a time. 😉

No but the KS20 is coming out for att said so on the FCC website..and that is a IPHONe killer especially with the 5mp camera.

yeah that should be a great phone...but I dont know if people will switch carriers to get it.

wrong, CU920 with a 2MP camera. the only 5MP will be the SE k850, at least for a while.

what r u talking about the se k850? correction the lg KU990 or the viewty thats the one with the 5mp camera

The Sony Ericsson k850 - 5 mega-pixel camera slated for ATT:

https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1264 »

Correct the KU990 has a 5MP shooter, but we have no plans to carry it right now, just the CU920 (Prada).

Correction, the 8120 (pearl 2) is available in Europe now and will be here GSM before years end. So they updated the Pearl across the board. Plus the GSM version has WiFi.

I think the reason for GSM people minimizing the CDMA phones is because it's always on GSM first, so it's nothing new to us. We saw most of the same technology in GSM last year.

Samsung u470 is just a CDMA Samsung x830 which cam out September 2006.

I believe that's the point carlsberg was trying to make.

Fair enough...I see your points

But I guess I just get a little sick of people reminding cdma peeps about everytime.

just gets a little annoying.

Chris

I agree, but we get the same thing about GSM SUCKS when it really doesn't. I love GSM. I get great service. I can change my phone daily if I want to. There are soooooo many different phones to choose from, I don't have to wait on my carrier to bring them out. And, I can fly pretty much anywhere in the world and my phone work!

We're just get tired of the GSM bashing as well. If it's doesn't work for you, don't hate, just go somewhere else. 😁

GSM has its good points. Im not tryin to bash. I personally don't really care for their voice quality vs cdma. But I guess thats just something I value a little more.

I agree with you, if you are happy with your carrier/provider...then stick with em!

I hear a lot of people complain about voice quality on GSM, but my service is crystal clear. My parents us CDMA and the always sound muffled when I talk to them. Lol, it's funny I chose GSM because the voice quality was so great.

I think it has a lot to do with the handset you carry on GSM as well. LG is GARBAGE! They put more money into CDMA than GSM and you can tell the difference. But Nokia, Sony Ericsson, HTC, Blackberry all focus on GSM first, then CDMA second (exluding Nokia and SE, they make no CDMA anymore).

yeah, ive heard nokia's are strong performers...my entire family except for me uses att. Im the only one on verizon and I can always tell when I call them because of the voice quality. They all use motorolas tho.

I'd rather carry a backpack full of quartes for payphones, buy a pre-paid card, or send a smoke signal, before I use a Moto. 🤣

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🤣 There's your problem! SUCKorola is horrible as well. I've had waaaaaaay too many issues with moto from warranty to dropped calls. They really suck. Like now, $299 for a RAZR? That's crazy, the Nokia N75 is a way better device and $49 on Premier!

the voyager might have faster internet speed capabilities but from what I've heard the browser, processor, etc bog it down. Sucks.

pepsijunky said:
the voyager might have faster internet speed capabilities but from what I've heard the browser, processor, etc bog it down. Sucks.

I am guessing you "heard" someone else say what you just did/ 🤣
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isn't that how it always goes? same with your beloved Windows mobile devices.

really where did you hear this buddy? links?

good one! you are a genius of comedy, could you send me a link to your stand-up!? idiot.

No need for names,STUPID, but I am right. A phone is a phone. That doesn't make me a comic. It just makes me right. HA