Cingular should do homework before the rip people off!!!
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Looking to buy a V551, I called Cingular to get pricing other than on-line 2 year contract price.
Here is what they offer:
2 year $149.99 with $50.00 mail in rebate.
1 year $199.99 with $50.00 mail in rebate.
No contract $249.00 no rebate.
Went to Motorola’s website $217.00 after $5.00 coupon code SURRO, free shipping no contract. So for being a Cingular customer for more than 10 years, they’ll let me buy it for $50 (plus $18 for activation) more then I can buy it from the manufacturer!!!
If your going to stick it to you customers, you’d be wise not to F*&K them so hard they switch carriers!!!!
Looking to buy a V551, I called Cingular to get pricing other than on-line 2 year contract price.
Here is what they offer:
2 year $149.99 with $50.00 mail in rebate.
1 year $199.99 with $50.00 mail in rebate.
No contract $249.00 no rebate.
Went to Motorola’s website $217.00 after $5.00 coupon code SURRO, free shipping no contract. So for being a Cingular customer for more than 10 years, they’ll let me buy it for $50 (plus $18 for activation) more then I can buy it from the manufacturer!!!
If your going to stick it to you customers, you’d be wise not to F*&K them so hard they switch carriers!!!!
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Exactly there pricing structure is absolutely ridiculous especially in store. I'm sure they are tyring to make money but they are going to loose a lot of costumers because of. Take me for example I was eager to migrate and now I'm like let me hold off.
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This isn't different than ANY other carrier. Moto is going to be able to offer the phone cheaper BECAUSE THEY MADE IT. OF COURSE Cingular will try to make money. Did you think they were a CHARITY GROUP? 9 times out of 10 Cingular LOSES money when they sign up a customer.
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Loses money no, in the red I'll buy, that's the idea of term contract to cover cost and make profit and since I spend on average $150 a month, I think they're doing ok by me!!
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Yes they LOSE money. I'm srry you don't understand that, but they do LOSE money.If you want to go to moto and get the phone from them, go ahead. No one is FORCING you to get it thru Cingular. It's just the same if an independant dealer were to offer the phone at a discount. They can do that. Get over it and just get the phone from Moto if you feel that strongly about it. But you'll be paying more if you buy it from Cingular.
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I am withy the cingular wireless custoemr retention group and I mailed off about 5 free motorola v551's two year contracts. I thinkt that beats the motorola website. Call customer service and they will sent you to retention group and they will lower the price.
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I am withy the cingular wireless custoemr retention group and I mailed off about 5 free motorola v551's two year contracts. I thinkt that beats the motorola website. Call customer service and they will sent you to retention group and they will lower the price.
Don't advertise that! what are you trying to do? you'll make the save department our new upgrading dept.
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You should do whatever to keep a longstanding customer. Especially one you don't have to beg for your money. One who pays on time and doesn't give you problems. You dont seem to realize how easy it is now to change carriers that you dont even say thank you every now and then for your loyal customers.
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Don'y worry about the save team becoming the ne upgrade department most customers do not qulaify for our special offers. Most will just get store pricing nothing special.
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My point exactly, A person who will complain about something like this is the same type of person who will complain that there mechanic charged them $200.00 for an alternator they could get at NAPA for $150.00. Quit Bitching or people will post a hundred times in a forum about how pathetic you are. 😢
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You dont know what you are talking about and until you do, don't address me. Thanks 😉
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I think that if the company can maintain a signal for the majority of the time, and the bills mostly make sense, and the employees don't make too many mistakes they can't fix, free phones are sort of the icing on the cake. Too many people feel they are entitled to premium service because they have made use of a company's network for x number years.
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Marketing 101 You maintain a business with repeat customers = Long standing customers = x number of yearssssssss = me. We do deserve atleast a thank you for keeping you in business.
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That's just the attitude that Cain was talking about... Every business appreciates customers, but not when they throw it in our face that they are a customer and want something they don't deserve...
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deltasigmatheta said:
Thats a stupid remark. What is your point not Cain's.
Reread the post... Just because you call in and say 'I'm a customer and without me you wouldn't have a job, now give me what I want' is the worst thing to say to someone you are trying to do business with... And in your field of work, what do you do when someone tries to get more than they deserve or make ridiculous demands??? Do you really like doing business with them?
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if you don't like the service go to t-mobile or sprint or a regional carrier and sign up for whatever their initial contract is, and deal with the hassle of porting your number and deal with the fact that you may not have national or international service or with the fact that your phone may or may not be compatible with that new company's network, and with that company's invoices.. it goes on and on. Basically if the company service isn't meeting your needs, then go elsewhere. If it is, then quit whining.
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greyrat said:
if you don't like the service go to t-mobile or sprint or a regional carrier and sign up for whatever their initial contract is, and deal with the hassle of porting your number and deal with the fact that you may not have national or international service or with the fact that your phone may or may not be compatible with that new company's network, and with that company's invoices.. it goes on and on. Basically if the company service isn't meeting your needs, then go elsewhere. If it is, then quit whining.
Who said I asked or spoke of any of that. 🙄 You have issues, don't take them out on us.
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no issues, just stating the facts. you are the consumer, if you don't like your deal then leave.
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You should do whatever to keep a longstanding customer. Especially one you don't have to beg for your money. One who pays on time and doesn't give you problems. You don't seem to realize how easy it is now to change carriers that you don't even say thank you every now and then for your loyal customers.
It is YOUR responsibility to pay your bill on time. That is the most piss poor excuse for wanting a free phone, 'I pay my bill on time.' Yea, you probably do, but that's because you signed a legally binding contract saying that you would pay on time. Just like your car payment, credit card, house note and cable... I am glad that you have the intellect to reason that paying on time de...
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You dont read well either, I myself NEVER said I wanted a free phone. I said discounted. I don't have a problem paying for what I want. Too bad you don't have the intellect to realize I am the type of customer that keeps you in a job. As long as you are trying to collect on "dead" accounts or customers who said **** on you, you wont be in business long.
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No actually my employer keeps me at my job. And customers like you don't make the world go round... and if you noticed for similar phones, Cingular is cheaper all the way around...
Every business has bad customers, either because they don't pay, or because they complain way to much... You fall in the second category...
Every business has bad customers, either because they don't pay, or because they complain way to much... You fall in the second category...
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What have I complained about. Please post this quote.
Cingular should do homework before the rip people off!!!
by moneyb Yesterday, 9:22 AM
Looking to buy a V551, I called Cingular to get pricing other than on-line 2 year contract price.
Here is what they offer:
2 year $149.99 with $50.00 mail in rebate.
1 year $199.99 with $50.00 mail in rebate.
No contract $249.00 no rebate.
Went to Motorola’s website $217.00 after $5.00 coupon code SURRO, free shipping no contract. So for being a Cingular customer for more than 10 years, they’ll let me buy it for $50 (plus $18 for activation) more then I can buy it from the manufacturer!!!
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You stupid ass look at the author of that. hahahahahahah like I said what have I complained about?
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You'll be forever looking because I haven't complained. But atleast you took the last post like a man. Both of you have issues though.
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I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong, I just got the post confused...so I'm not saying anything else...
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You should be positive that you are right before you speak so crudely
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No I do not fall in second category, I'm on a message board with complaint.
I bought phone from Moto with one call to Cingular CSR asking prices not ever once asking for phone at a discount or a handout.
AGIAN USING THIS AS FORUM TO VOICE AN OPINION ABOUT PRICING POLICIES AT CINGULAR!
IF YOU PEOPLE WORK FOR CINGULAR AND ARE TAKING THIS PERSONALLY, QUIT JERKIN OFF ON A MESSAGE BOARD AND GET BACK TO THE JOB YOUR PAID FOR!!! 😉
I bought phone from Moto with one call to Cingular CSR asking prices not ever once asking for phone at a discount or a handout.
AGIAN USING THIS AS FORUM TO VOICE AN OPINION ABOUT PRICING POLICIES AT CINGULAR!
IF YOU PEOPLE WORK FOR CINGULAR AND ARE TAKING THIS PERSONALLY, QUIT JERKIN OFF ON A MESSAGE BOARD AND GET BACK TO THE JOB YOUR PAID FOR!!! 😉
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Ok. I quit... thats it... no more post... ya'll win... i'm lost in days of post here... sh()t...
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Should not have to call customer retention, don't screw people and give fair pricing in the first place!!! 😈
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moneyb said:
Should not have to call customer retention, don't screw people and give fair pricing in the first place!!! 😈
And who should define fair? Cingular prices the phone for the price which they can afford to sell it. If Cingular buys a phone from the manufacturer and the manufacturer prices it such that Cingular can recoup the cost of the phone over the course of a one year contract and still make a small profit at the end of the contract, they will give the phone away FREE. If they can't meet those conditions, they will price the phone accordingly. Otherwise, they would be forced to raise their rates to cover equipment costs... and who wants to pay higher service rates? Certainly not y...
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I think you are missing the point here. They are selling it to you for LESS than their cost in exchange for you signing a contract. The longer contract you sign, the more of a hit they will take on the phone. You are whining because they want to mark the phone up %15 when you sign NO contract extension? What is to keep you from taking the phone and cancelling immediately if they sell it to you at cost or below without a contract? Wake up, my friend, this is how things work at every wireless carrier. You give them a little, they give you a little.
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You are whining because they want to mark the phone up %15 when you sign NO contract extension? What is to keep you from taking the phone and cancelling immediately if they sell it to you at cost or below without a contract?
Since Moto is selling them to anyone for $217, I'm sure Cingular is getting them far below that since they are the largest carrier in the US and buy them in bulk.
And so what if Cingular sells them at cost? Even if the customer only stays a couple months, thats a couple months of income that cost them nothing.
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Maybe the fact that I have been a customer for over 10 years might be a hint that I'm not planning on going anywhere.....
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Just buy the phone from motorola and stop whining. you're always gonna get it cheaper when you buy direct from the manufacturer.
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WRONG should cost more to buy direct! Price of the phone is the only way they make money off me! Cingular gets to bill me for airtime and usage for 2 full years...
Stop trying to justify pricing practices…..Two year commitment more than covers cost of the phone and makes them a profit.
How about this, Let’s offer phones at greater discounts based on spending. I spend, on average, $150 a month. Why shouldn’t I get equipment cheaper than the guy on a $29 a month plan! I would gladly agree to minimum spending level for equipment.
I believe this is what Dish Network and Directv do! They give you equipment, just spend $39.99 a month for a year. Every year I upgrade Directv Equipment, all they want is another year at $39.99...
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Stop trying to justify pricing practices…..Two year commitment more than covers cost of the phone and makes them a profit.
How about this, Let’s offer phones at greater discounts based on spending. I spend, on average, $150 a month. Why shouldn’t I get equipment cheaper than the guy on a $29 a month plan! I would gladly agree to minimum spending level for equipment.
I believe this is what Dish Network and Directv do! They give you equipment, just spend $39.99 a month for a year. Every year I upgrade Directv Equipment, all they want is another year at $39.99...
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I'm surprised that cingular sells the v551 for more than Motorola itself. Usually, the unbranded direct from the manufacturer product should be more expensive than the BRANDED product.
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Not according to JessiCSR. She seems to think the oppiste is true......Funny wrong information from a CSR.....That never happens 🤣 🤣 🤣
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I'm not bashing anyone but to me, that's the norm. Especially in Europe. People would be more than willing to pay the extra $50-$100 to get an unbranded phone over a carrier branded phone. But I guess not in this case.
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My goal with post was not to bash, It was to inform consumers and cingular that contract free option was available at compairable price. I see people paying more than $217 on Ebay for this phone!
Just Dumb!
Just Dumb!
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if your point was not to "bash".... just reread the title of your thread. You are claiming that cingular is ripping people off... but you don't know that to be true.
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They are ripping people off.....THIS PHONE SHOULD BE FREE. If I can buy from manufacture at a cost that would afford Cingular zero exposure to loss (early termination clause) then it should be free!!!!!! I'll guarantee Cingular is not paying $217 a pop! If they give it to me and I terminate next week, you'll get $250 in liquidated damages.
That in my book is charging people for something that should be FREE AKA RIP OFF!
I know they are in business to make a profit but let's no insult to injury!!!
That in my book is charging people for something that should be FREE AKA RIP OFF!
I know they are in business to make a profit but let's no insult to injury!!!
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the phone's not free. Sorry charlie. They only way you could possibly get it free is with a two-year agreement. There's no way any wireless company would give out a free phone with no commitment. That company would go under faster then a boulder sinks to the bottom of a lake.
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Besides, do you know how many people stiff the carrier for the early termination fee? They don't care if they take a hit on their credit, they just want to either get a new phone for free WITH NO COMMITMENT, or just want to stick it to the carrier because they sometimes drop calls.
At first I thought that I was with moneyb on this, but no way. Not after I took 10 seconds and thought about it and what he wanted. He is just ANOTHER whinny customer who wants the world handed to him on a silver platter. I say ignore anything else he posts, unless your in a bad mood and need someone to vent on to release that pent up aggression from dealing with all of the moneyb's that you encounter during you shift on the phone.
At first I thought that I was with moneyb on this, but no way. Not after I took 10 seconds and thought about it and what he wanted. He is just ANOTHER whinny customer who wants the world handed to him on a silver platter. I say ignore anything else he posts, unless your in a bad mood and need someone to vent on to release that pent up aggression from dealing with all of the moneyb's that you encounter during you shift on the phone.
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"They don't care if they take a hit on their credit, they just want to either get a new phone for free WITH NO COMMITMENT, or just want to stick it to the carrier because they sometimes drop calls. "
Next your gonna tell me they don't factor these types into the cost modules?
Come on guys get over it! I did, phone is on its way from Motorola. To thank me for my order, I'll get a free game or ring-tone which is more then I have gotten for my 10 year loyalty to your corporation!!
Next your gonna tell me they don't factor these types into the cost modules?
Come on guys get over it! I did, phone is on its way from Motorola. To thank me for my order, I'll get a free game or ring-tone which is more then I have gotten for my 10 year loyalty to your corporation!!
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I don't work for, use, or really care for cingular. I just saw what was being written here and wanted to put in my 2 cents.
As for getting over it, you are the one who kept coming in and saying the same thing over and over again. More than once someone said to just order from Motorola and get over it.
If you hadn't titled you post the way you did, and didn't keep repeating yourself, then maybe this would have been dropped a long time ago. I'm over it, couldn't care less.
As for getting over it, you are the one who kept coming in and saying the same thing over and over again. More than once someone said to just order from Motorola and get over it.
If you hadn't titled you post the way you did, and didn't keep repeating yourself, then maybe this would have been dropped a long time ago. I'm over it, couldn't care less.
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Cool with your 2 cents and my 2 cents worth we're only $99.95 away from a V551 from Cingular (I'll spot the $50.00 rebate for six - ten weeks).
Happy Thanksgiving!!!
Happy Thanksgiving!!!
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Different companys give different specials on different phones. Right now Cingular is trying to get rid of the V220 because it's probably not selling very well. So they sell the V220 which has a lot of the same features as the V551 but is lacking in alot. So what they do is they make the V551 expensive and make the v220 free just like they did for the v400 a week ago. Right now the v551 is selling extreamly well even for $150 so why make it lower? It is still a very reasonably priced phone. For somethins simular with Verizon i could only find two phones one was the LG VX7000 which was 99.99 but no blue tooth and then the Motorola v710 which was 249.99 but it has a megapixel camera and crippled blue tooth. For a phone with a camera and...
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😁 That's my point IT SHOULD BE FREE WITH A TWO YEAR AGREEMENT.
Cingular is sticking it to people! $99.99 after waiting six weeks to get rebate money back!
I never said it should be free w/o agreement. I am saying it shouldn't be 100 bucks with an agreement.
Personally, I'd rather pay an additional $117.00. The spread to me isn't worth obligating myself for 2 more years. Sure I'll probably be with Cingular in two years but it will be MY CHOICE not dictated by a service agreement! 😳
Cingular is sticking it to people! $99.99 after waiting six weeks to get rebate money back!
I never said it should be free w/o agreement. I am saying it shouldn't be 100 bucks with an agreement.
Personally, I'd rather pay an additional $117.00. The spread to me isn't worth obligating myself for 2 more years. Sure I'll probably be with Cingular in two years but it will be MY CHOICE not dictated by a service agreement! 😳
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only certain people can do things like that any store you go to or online won't especially if they are indirect. That is the price we are told and that is the only price we are allowed to sell at
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that phone would be free if it was worth being free. however, since this is a high-end phone, and a new model, at that, it's worth too much to sell for free.
and again, Get over it.
and again, Get over it.
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Not only that, but giving away a phone packed with every possible feature for Free is a move that only a desperate company would make. This whole "Free Phone" trend is getting a little sickening.
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Jackass look at what you just said "giving away a phone packed with features" Last time I looked I pay Cingular additional monthly revenue to use these features...makes sense to me....mutli media and data is and will become a greater source of revenue than air-time! Do some homework, most providers agree!
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Why does that surprise you? Motorola basically hs the cost of the phone and a bit of profit to cover. Wireless companies have to deal w/ the mfg markup PLUS buttloads of handling of the phones.
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Here's my $0.02....quit your whining. If you don't like it don't have a cell phone.
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You know, you are really acting as though it costs absolutely nothing to run the towers that get the service to the phone. I guess you think that the billing system software is freeware and that all customer service representatives are volunteers. The stores get their rent for free and as a matter of fact, THOSE sales reps are volunteers as well!
tsk, tsk
You know, there are more costs to running a wireless company than just the price of customers' equipment.
tsk, tsk
You know, there are more costs to running a wireless company than just the price of customers' equipment.
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Good point, I have a friend who is high up with Cingular and he told me a great deal of the companies revenue is from sub-lease of towers to other wireless Companies. In fact in our area, greater than 50% of Cingulars revenue.
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money, you discount the cost of maintaining the network and the costs of staffing the call centers and retail locations so you can whine to a representative of the company about your service or your phone costs at your convenience. If you don't like the service, move on... if not you are just blowing air.
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Hell on a phone that is not selling? I havent asked for a V3. Calm down. I dont complain about the service because I understand the concept and the lack of towers, etc. Don't complain about phones, I have had the same one for about 14 months. Just said it would be nice to get a thank you every once in a while.
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thank you. we *really* apreciate the fact that you haven't left a carrier that is providing reliable service and a rate plan that meets your needs for however long, and that you continue to pay for the service that you have either used or agreed to use.Please feel free to not call us and demand a free phone because you are using our service.
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Dude,
You pay Cingular for the wireless service,not the honor of owning the phone.You can get the phone anywhere,Cingular,motorola or some shady street corner dealer....doesn't matter where you get it,you still have to pay CINGULAR WIRELESS for the WIRELESS service,as we are a WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER,and that is the main biz that their revenue depends on,the phones are an added benifit to the "profit margin",and something that you can CHOOSE to obtain from Cingular or some other dealer.
You pay Cingular for the wireless service,not the honor of owning the phone.You can get the phone anywhere,Cingular,motorola or some shady street corner dealer....doesn't matter where you get it,you still have to pay CINGULAR WIRELESS for the WIRELESS service,as we are a WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER,and that is the main biz that their revenue depends on,the phones are an added benifit to the "profit margin",and something that you can CHOOSE to obtain from Cingular or some other dealer.
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actually Cingular doesn't get them at any more of a discount that you would if you bought it from Moto. Trust me...I see the unit costs everyday.
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I don't believe for a second that Cingular pays the same price a normal consumer would based upon the volume that they purchase these phones on. The only phones that any company will truly lose money on are the *free* phones (which aren't truly free). No service provider whether its ATT, Cingular, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc, pays retail price on a phone. In fact most cell phones are one of the highest marked up items in the electronics industry. There are a few exceptions to this, but overall Moto's markup is probably about 500 to 1000%. Whenever I hear how companies do this and "lose" money it makes me laugh. Those who claim this obviously have concept how companies work and how money is made. Its no different than the disposable razor m...
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Well stated! I just think these companies are making enough on the back end that equipment should be a nominal fees!
Last time I looked, Cingular had a little coin to buy AT&T...
Last time I looked, Cingular had a little coin to buy AT&T...
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That,and ATT gave away a lot of FREE phones...
Maybe theres something to that,hmmm?
Maybe theres something to that,hmmm?
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MoneyB, you are comletely missing every possible point here. Please do not go into any business field or your company will fail miserably!!!
Just a couple of ideas for the things you cant seem to comprehend:
1. Marking the phone up to 249.99 covers S&H and every other possible cost the company incurs to get the phone to your loser hands.
2. You have been with us for 10 years, well obviously you have stayed for some reason: the great service we provide you.
3. You dont just hand us $150 each month; we incur costs of maintaining your account, sending you a bill, each minute you talk (yes even "free" N&W, MTM, etc...), every time you call into the company, and every phone in the past youve gotten on discount.
4. So the v5...
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Just a couple of ideas for the things you cant seem to comprehend:
1. Marking the phone up to 249.99 covers S&H and every other possible cost the company incurs to get the phone to your loser hands.
2. You have been with us for 10 years, well obviously you have stayed for some reason: the great service we provide you.
3. You dont just hand us $150 each month; we incur costs of maintaining your account, sending you a bill, each minute you talk (yes even "free" N&W, MTM, etc...), every time you call into the company, and every phone in the past youve gotten on discount.
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"My 5 year old niece understands these concepts."
Is she a retard? If she buys your point in #1 I'll bet she is....$249 to cover shipping and handling! If you think Cingular paid $217 for these phones and marks up to $249 to cover cost, maybe your the retard.
As to point #4 I'm not willing to lock 2 more years since merger I've gotten more failed calls and network busy's then I have gotten in the last two years!
As to point #3, I pay on-line with on-line billing (increasing your profit)and I'm sure my monthly service is not offered at a loss to your company.
Is she a retard? If she buys your point in #1 I'll bet she is....$249 to cover shipping and handling! If you think Cingular paid $217 for these phones and marks up to $249 to cover cost, maybe your the retard.
As to point #4 I'm not willing to lock 2 more years since merger I've gotten more failed calls and network busy's then I have gotten in the last two years!
As to point #3, I pay on-line with on-line billing (increasing your profit)and I'm sure my monthly service is not offered at a loss to your company.
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Then go.
If you're so sure how much cingular pays for the phones, why don't you tell us how much they pay for it?
If you're so sure how much cingular pays for the phones, why don't you tell us how much they pay for it?
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No doubt Jessi, good point. MoneyB, if you cant see how the difference between $217 and $249 ($32) is enough to cover S&H, field testing, advertising, etc etc etc on a grand scale, than you are an absolute idiot who deserves to have your cell phone taken away. You are the retard for simply going under the belt and calling a 5 year old a retard you sorry loser.
Good luck on trying not to be "The Loose Canon" of anything business-oriented you happen to be involved in.
Good luck on trying not to be "The Loose Canon" of anything business-oriented you happen to be involved in.
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my contract expired and i am halfway switching to tmobile. anyway i can get to the save dept and get a V551?
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Good luck on going from the #1 company to the company in Last Place.
Besides, you can go anywhere and get the v551 (stores, Care, etc.). Oh wait, you probably want it for free. Right.
Go to the back of the line of people that want the v551 for free but probably dont know a half of the things the phone does other than have "a really nice color screen on it"
Besides, you can go anywhere and get the v551 (stores, Care, etc.). Oh wait, you probably want it for free. Right.
Go to the back of the line of people that want the v551 for free but probably dont know a half of the things the phone does other than have "a really nice color screen on it"
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actually buddy, i know what it does. i have a t616 but i want to move up to a better camera as well as IM built in.
dont talk if you dont know...
dont talk if you dont know...
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Well then, dont talk about it like you're expecting it for free. Accept a great discount on it and move on with your life.
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The one argument I hear from customers is always "i pay my monthly service and should get a free phone... or i pay $150 every month..."
Your monthly service is just that... A monthly rate for YOUR SERVICE... You pay your monthly rate... We give you cell phone service... It doesn't mean you've more than paid for 100 phones and should just get the Razr for free... If you were able to make/recv calls than we supplied you with what you paid for... Accept it and be happy.
As for this jag off... It's people like this that really boil me... I would want for him to go into Wal-Mart and tell them that because he shops at wal-mart for groceries all the time they should give him a free xbox... Ridiculous you say?
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Your monthly service is just that... A monthly rate for YOUR SERVICE... You pay your monthly rate... We give you cell phone service... It doesn't mean you've more than paid for 100 phones and should just get the Razr for free... If you were able to make/recv calls than we supplied you with what you paid for... Accept it and be happy.
As for this jag off... It's people like this that really boil me... I would want for him to go into Wal-Mart and tell them that because he shops at wal-mart for groceries all the time they should give him a free xbox... Ridiculous you say?
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You don't get free anything else to sign up for services...so maybe if they stopped the free phones, this would shut a lot of people up. 😁
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Cheers Speck! It's this kind of crap that makes me wish people had to buy their phones from Manufacturers instead of stores. They could bitch to them when they lose a phone and want a new free one. If a screen goes out, they go to them instead of us. Cellular companies foot the bill for all that and people don't consider it.
For the record, $217 is what our agents pay for the v551. We pay shipping. We pay for SIM cards. If you buy a 551 from me, it has cost me over $242 just to get it in my store. I charge $299.99 and you should be lucky to get THAT price. Most of our agent stores will charge you $317 and make you buy the SIM card.
For the record, $217 is what our agents pay for the v551. We pay shipping. We pay for SIM cards. If you buy a 551 from me, it has cost me over $242 just to get it in my store. I charge $299.99 and you should be lucky to get THAT price. Most of our agent stores will charge you $317 and make you buy the SIM card.
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spddemun said:
You don't get free anything else to sign up for services...so maybe if they stopped the free phones, this would shut a lot of people up. 😁
Hehe not absolutly true.... Satalite TV works off the same model, but then again you dont need a new satalitte every year 😛
But here here speck! i absoutly agree, i have to deal with that mindset on a daily basis 🙄
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If you find the better deal @ motorola then buy the damn thing from motorola... You just want the phone for free without having to sign a contract... Because motorola is asking $217 for the phone... We're offering it for $149.99 w/ a 2 year contract... You just don't want to sign a contract... you're probly the idiot that calls in saying "You should give me a razr v3 for free because you discontinued my v600 that works perfectly fine... oh, and i don't want to sign a contract and want unlimited minutes for $10. i'll threaten to cancel if i don't get all this."
Exactamundo. Basically, Cingular offers you a choice. You are not required to buy the phone from us, and our word is not Gospel. If Moto...
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Whoa, hold your horses...from what you are saying that MOTOROLA will let you have the phone for 217.00 minus a 5.00 credit???? or a 50.00 credit??? Is cingular allowing you to have the phn for 50.00 plus 18.00 or 150.00 plus 18.00...the way I see it the only problem is the contract that you have to go under. The reason why Motorola doesnt make you go under a contract is simply because they do not offer wireless service. Also you have been a customer for 10 years?!?! why are you afraid to commit to a new 2yr contract?
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OK Let me re-spell my point! Cingular is only discounting phone by $100 for a two year agreement. That's crap!
Second, I want it to be my choice to stay with Cingular for the next two years not b/c they gave me a bogus deal with an agreement!
ALL I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WITH MY ORIGINAL POST IS THERE SHOULD BE A DEEPER DISCOUNT WITH A TWO YEAR COMITMENT TO CINGULAR PERIOD END OF STORY......
Second, I want it to be my choice to stay with Cingular for the next two years not b/c they gave me a bogus deal with an agreement!
ALL I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WITH MY ORIGINAL POST IS THERE SHOULD BE A DEEPER DISCOUNT WITH A TWO YEAR COMITMENT TO CINGULAR PERIOD END OF STORY......
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moneyb said:
OK Let me re-spell my point! Cingular is only discounting phone by $100 for a two year agreement. That's crap!
Second, I want it to be my choice to stay with Cingular for the next two years not b/c they gave me a bogus deal with an agreement!
ALL I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WITH MY ORIGINAL POST IS THERE SHOULD BE A DEEPER DISCOUNT WITH A TWO YEAR COMITMENT TO CINGULAR PERIOD END OF STORY......
so from your standpoint a company should bleed money to keep customers? sounds like a breakthrough marketing strategy to me.
the fact of the matter is that you could make this same argument with any carrier and any phone, you just happen to be pointing out one phone with one carrier. it's the way ...
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Moneyb,
Congratulations. You have been introduced to the world of business. Cingular is acting as a middleman and, as such, won't offer you the phone at factory direct prices. Yes, they have the power, I'm sure, to offer you double-secret probation type prices that the next person that asks won't get, but sit around hoping for that and you'll grow old waiting.
If price is what makes up your mind, look for the best one and be happy when you find it, not bitter at the outlet where you wished you'd found it.
Cingular does not pay my student loan bills each month, so don't accuse me of being a paid voice for the orange & blue.
Congratulations. You have been introduced to the world of business. Cingular is acting as a middleman and, as such, won't offer you the phone at factory direct prices. Yes, they have the power, I'm sure, to offer you double-secret probation type prices that the next person that asks won't get, but sit around hoping for that and you'll grow old waiting.
If price is what makes up your mind, look for the best one and be happy when you find it, not bitter at the outlet where you wished you'd found it.
Cingular does not pay my student loan bills each month, so don't accuse me of being a paid voice for the orange & blue.
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All the cell phone companies should just stop offering cell phones at all. Then people could go deal with the manufacturer. That would be great.
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VOLVORacr said:
All the cell phone companies should just stop offering cell phones at all. Then people could go deal with the manufacturer. That would be great.
that's how it is handled in many countries around the world. would make life easier... 🙂
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OMG, I think you've hit on something here. Hmmm... *wondering how our calls would change*
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moneyb said:
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Looking to buy a V551, I called Cingular to get pricing other than on-line 2 year contract price.
Here is what they offer:
2 year $149.99 with $50.00 mail in rebate.
1 year $199.99 with $50.00 mail in rebate.
No contract $249.00 no rebate.
Went to Motorola’s website $217.00 after $5.00 coupon code SURRO, free shipping no contract. So for being a Cingular customer for more than 10 years, they’ll let me buy it for $50 (plus $18 for activation) more then I can buy it from the manufacturer!!!
If your going to stick it to you customers, you’d be wise not to F*&K them so hard they switch carriers!!!!
Just buy your phone on Ebay or somewhere else. I bought a T637 and MPX220 on E...
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screw cingular...buy it on ebay! I know many of my coworkers who get several free phones as prizes and then sell them on ebay.
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And there was some golden reason to resurrect a post that's been dead for seven months? I'm sure the OP is just panting for your reply... 🙄
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Aleq said:
And there was some golden reason to resurrect a post that's been dead for seven months? I'm sure the OP is just panting for your reply... 🙄
I'm going to find a post that's EIGHT months old and bring it back for all to see!
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muchdrama said:Aleq said:
And there was some golden reason to resurrect a post that's been dead for seven months? I'm sure the OP is just panting for your reply... 🙄
I'm going to find a post that's EIGHT months old and bring it back for all to see!
You can bite me, dramaboy! I'm so tired I'm propping my eyes open with toothpicks because of all the mortar happy idiots in my neighborhood and in NO MOOD for your shenanigans, you hear? 👿
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Aleq said:muchdrama said:Aleq said:
And there was some golden reason to resurrect a post that's been dead for seven months? I'm sure the OP is just panting for your reply... 🙄
I'm going to find a post that's EIGHT months old and bring it back for all to see!
You can bite me, dramaboy! I'm so tired I'm propping my eyes open with toothpicks because of all the mortar happy idiots in my neighborhood and in NO MOOD for your shenanigans, you hear? 👿
Holy crap! Did you hear those frigging things going off all night? They sounded like sticks of dynamite. I watched my cat, "Satan" run up a brick wall Matrix-style.
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Dude, one of my neighbors had a no sh!t MORTAR going off all night, rattled my windows so hard I thought they were going to break, bottle rockets being sprayed into dry brush, I had my hose out wetting down my roof I was so paranoid of a fire, and my kitten was launching off me every time a really bad burst went off, I have scratches all over--went on until well after midnight. I swear to all I hold sacred that next year I'm going out at 4am when my alarm goes off on July 5th and I'm taking a 12 gauge and a full box of shells with, and I'm going to shoot off every single one of them and make absolutely sure that EVERYONE in the neighborhood wakes up! It's only fair, after all I put up with THEIR fun and games, they can deal with mine... :...
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jinx7676 said:
god bless the 4th of july! 😉
And the people who blew off their fingers/toes/scalp.
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Dude, one of my neighbors had a no sh!t MORTAR going off all night, rattled my windows so hard I thought they were going to break, bottle rockets being sprayed into dry brush, I had my hose out wetting down my roof I was so paranoid of a fire, and my kitten was launching off me every time a really bad burst went off, I have scratches all over--went on until well after midnight. I swear to all I hold sacred that next year I'm going out at 4am when my alarm goes off on July 5th and I'm taking a 12 gauge and a full box of shells with, and I'm going to shoot off every single one of them and make absolutely sure that EVERYONE in the neighborhood wakes up! It's only fair, after all I put up with THEIR fun and games
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You bumped this 8 month old thread to put out your worthless information AGAIN?
When is the last time you checked prices on ebay and found anything like this?
This is getting old.
When is the last time you checked prices on ebay and found anything like this?
This is getting old.
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Okay, moneyb, you have proven your stupidity. Let me give you a look at the wireless industry. First of all, CELL PHONES COST MONEY TO MAKE!!!! Quite a bit of money actually. Especially the V551. Do you even have the capability to realize how much technology it takes to pack GSM, EDGE, camera, video, internet and text messaging abilites, and bluetooth, not to mention all the v551's other features, into such a small package? So let's say motorola's price is $217. (Also keeping in mind that motorola is a for-profit organization, so that price IS marked up a bit) And cingular is willing to sell it to you (full price @ no commitment) for $249. That's only a $32 mark up. Cingular ALSO provides you with a sim card. (Standard price on a s...
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I agree with Jldnr77 if you do know anything about businesses and how products are sold then you are a Dumb @$$ and you should take a marketing class at your local community college. Also when it comes to phones like any other product there is a little thing that you would learn about in that marketing class called supply and demand. If the product is in high demand the cost will go up and if product is in low demand the cost will drop and that is how we get sales. If you don't like the cost of the product now check it in six months and the demand is low and the price has dropped
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That is like saying Dillards is ripping you off even though Burlington coat factory has the same shirt for half off!
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Everyone, please stop what you're doing, and take a brief moment to cry for moneyb.
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Ok, there's our river. Someone hand me some bricks and cement so we can help him build his bridge and get over it.
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Ok, there's our river. Someone hand me some bricks and cement so we can help him build his bridge and get over it.
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Here here!
I mean, whoever heard of a corporation that doesn't want to make every cent it possibly can?
That's what corporations do.
It's what they're good at.
It's the reason why they're corporations, and not just your run-of-the-mill business.
If motorolla sells a cheaper phone, buy the phone through them and stop complaining. You're getting the phone at a better rate than all those people who are too lazy/busy/unaware to shop around.
So what's the problem?
I mean, whoever heard of a corporation that doesn't want to make every cent it possibly can?
That's what corporations do.
It's what they're good at.
It's the reason why they're corporations, and not just your run-of-the-mill business.
If motorolla sells a cheaper phone, buy the phone through them and stop complaining. You're getting the phone at a better rate than all those people who are too lazy/busy/unaware to shop around.
So what's the problem?
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Last time I checked the point of a Company being in business was to make a profit, you are NOT so special that the company will bend over backwards for you, would be nice...but not realistic!! Get over yourself, so we make 150.00 off of you per month, try and remember that you are the minority in our company, majority of our customers dont spend crap with us per month....we will treat you all the same, regardless. Get used to it, or get lost...you'll find the same to be true of ALL companies in some shape or form!!! No one has become successful by giving away the farm!! ie ATT....what couldnt you get from them if you called and whined a little?!?!....stop calling me and telling how much more you got from them...there's a reason they are NOT ...
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