upgrade questions?? (former SunCom'er+3360)
I'm currently on month to month status under AT&T, but still on a regional SunCom promo plan that rocks compared to the similarly priced AT&T $40/mo plan (my SunCom plan has unlimited nites & wknds starting at 8pm, free mobile to mobile, and 1st incoming minute free, all of which the comparable AT&T plan lacks).
Unfortunately, I'm using a Nokia 3360 which has started to finally give me problems, mainly the dreaded "NO SERVICE" glitch.
I've been looking into upgrading phones and would love to do so without switching my plan over and losing what I have, but I don't know how or if it's even possible/cost effective. I've been told that if Cingular does end up buying AT&T, I would have to sign up for a new contract with them, or cancel my s...
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Unfortunately, I'm using a Nokia 3360 which has started to finally give me problems, mainly the dreaded "NO SERVICE" glitch.
I've been looking into upgrading phones and would love to do so without switching my plan over and losing what I have, but I don't know how or if it's even possible/cost effective. I've been told that if Cingular does end up buying AT&T, I would have to sign up for a new contract with them, or cancel my s...
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Upgrading your phone does not require a plan change unless you go GSM, then yoy need a GSM plan.
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theDMan said:
Upgrading your phone does not require a plan change unless you go GSM, then yoy need a GSM plan.
OK, so what are my options for phones then? I don't want to outlay any cash for a 2260, which seems like a downgrade. What options might I have if I could find something used on eBay or in the classifieds? Can any phone work, so long as it says it's an AT&T phone? I guess if I could just configure a new phone to use on my current plan, that would be the ideal situation.
If I stay month to month on my SunCom promo plan, can Cingular force me sign a new contract with them when/if they take over AT&T That would be the other consideration I have
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1. Cingular isn't buying SunCom they are buying AT&T Wireless. SunCom isn't included in the buy out talks at all. SunCom will remain a separate company. And lets say something did happen Cingular can't force you to go onto a new contract.
2. Any AT&T Wireless TDMA phone will work on the SunCom TDMA network. GSM is locked for AT&T SIM cards so we cannot activate those (unless they are unlocked 🙂 )
3. If you upgrade with SunCom you are only going to get a $50 discount if you extend for 1yr or an $80 discount if you extend for 2yrs. $80 discount not available on all phones. If you want to keep the plan that you have the only phones that you can upgrade to are the TDMA phones. Right now would be the nokia 2260, nokia 3560, n...
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2. Any AT&T Wireless TDMA phone will work on the SunCom TDMA network. GSM is locked for AT&T SIM cards so we cannot activate those (unless they are unlocked 🙂 )
3. If you upgrade with SunCom you are only going to get a $50 discount if you extend for 1yr or an $80 discount if you extend for 2yrs. $80 discount not available on all phones. If you want to keep the plan that you have the only phones that you can upgrade to are the TDMA phones. Right now would be the nokia 2260, nokia 3560, n...
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nitelifesc said:
1. Cingular isn't buying SunCom they are buying AT&T Wireless. SunCom isn't included in the buy out talks at all. SunCom will remain a separate company. And lets say something did happen Cingular can't force you to go onto a new contract.
AT&T bought SunCom, and my billing is with AT&T now. I'm still under the SunCom plan I signed up for in 2001, but I'm in month-to-month now.
I was told by an AT&T salesperson that Cingular could force me to either sign up for a new plan or cancel my mo-to-mo plan.
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2. Any AT&T Wireless TDMA phone will work on the SunCom TDMA network. GSM is locked for AT&T SIM cards so we cannot activate those (unless they a
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I apologize I thought you were still with SunCom (TritonPCS). You mean the old SunCom (TeleCorp). Yes they were bought by AT&T Wireless. OOOPs sorry. But still Cingular can't force you onto a new contract. You are a customer of AT&T they have to give you the option to cancel. But I'm sure they will ofter some big incentive to take on a new contract.
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My understanding is this: Any customer on ATTWS when the buyout is complete will be able to continue under any existing contract they had with ATTWS. At the end of that contract they can remain month to month on a comparable Cingular plan, or choose to sign a new agreement.
Under ATTWS's current contract agreement, my understanding is that the contracts are transferrable in the event of someone else taking over the company, which would mean that Cingular would honor ATTWS plans until the end of the contract period.
In any case, sadly, regardless of which carrier you go with, you will wind up on GSM, CDMA or iDEN (Nextel). I believe ATTWS is the only carrier still offering a postpaid TDMA plan. T-Mobile started out GSM, and Cingular no...
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Under ATTWS's current contract agreement, my understanding is that the contracts are transferrable in the event of someone else taking over the company, which would mean that Cingular would honor ATTWS plans until the end of the contract period.
In any case, sadly, regardless of which carrier you go with, you will wind up on GSM, CDMA or iDEN (Nextel). I believe ATTWS is the only carrier still offering a postpaid TDMA plan. T-Mobile started out GSM, and Cingular no...
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well my friend in order to get gsm,you'll have to give up your plan,and in order to get any AWS phone you'll have to extend your contract as well as go to a new plan as the rebates on the phones(all ofthem)are based on being on a current plan,your plan would be expired so you would get rejected from the rebate company,so either way,either by cancelling or port out that plan is gonna be gone, go to gs america national plan 59.99 1050 pk,unlim m2m national,nights and weekends 7pm,and best part free roam and ld in the usa,thanks to expanded coverage and rom agreeents.
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they said I could stay on my current plan, and just extend it for two years to get a new free phone, but the selections available are ****ty (if I'm having problems with a 3360, why would I want a downgrade to a 2260?)
AT&T wasn't really willing to help me out on a deal on switching over to GSM, so i said f@ck it and am in the process of porting over to Cingular.
If my credit app doesn't go through, then I may be forced to look into buying a used phone that works with AT&T, but I don't know which ones will work, short of the 8260.
AT&T wasn't really willing to help me out on a deal on switching over to GSM, so i said f@ck it and am in the process of porting over to Cingular.
If my credit app doesn't go through, then I may be forced to look into buying a used phone that works with AT&T, but I don't know which ones will work, short of the 8260.
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Umm just one thing, a 2260 isnt a downgrade a 3360, it actually has more features including polyphonic ringtones. Remember, Nokia's numbering scheme makes little to no sense at the best of times, a higher number doesnt men a better phone or one would be led to beleive a 5160 is better that a 3360.
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ringtones mean nothing to me. it doesn't have the infrared, which I use with my Palm Pilot quite often.
Not that it matters... I'm on Cingular now. Got a free 3100 and $20 in my pocket after the mail in rebate.
Not that it matters... I'm on Cingular now. Got a free 3100 and $20 in my pocket after the mail in rebate.
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OK, heres a question, how many Nokias do have an infrared, certainely not the 3100.
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theDMan said:
Umm just one thing, a 2260 isnt a downgrade a 3360, it actually has more features including polyphonic ringtones. Remember, Nokia's numbering scheme makes little to no sense at the best of times, a higher number doesnt men a better phone or one would be led to beleive a 5160 is better that a 3360.
Acutally DMan it is a downgrade the upgrade to the 3360 is the 3560, the 2260 previously was the 1260,the previous to that was the 5165,then before that 5160i,and the 5160
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Yet it has the exact same features, minus the infrared, and has a nifty blue screen that's much easier to read.
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but it doesn't have vibrating battery,like the 3360,unles you buy different battery,thats why it went from 3360 to 3560,that has that plus colour screen
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No vibrating battery is needed, the vibration is built in, a vibrating battery would be redundant
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its still a downgrade,if you compare them ,the 2260 is definitely a downgrade thats why we were giving the away,its the lowest end model,in cost copared to others.
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Hmm, now lets see, smaller size, same features, slightly heavier but with a longer battery life, and oh yeah, the screen doesnt invert itself at random or show garbled graphics. Yup definitely a major downgrade here, compared to the 3360 a 1260 looks like an upgrade, I have never had more problems with any single phone on a personal or professional basis than the 3360. That includes the moto V60 series which mainly tends to have user problems.
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the v-60 is a piece cr@p,always was,always will be,but the yeah it is a downgrade,thats why if someone is gonna buy a phone they might as well as go gsm,with the recent upgrades,and roam agreements,its the best time to switch to gsm
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well you are gonna a few problems 1)in order to qualify to get a free phone,have to be on current and available plan,2)porting over to cingular won't help because of the "merger",besides they are scrictly gsm no tdma, and 3)for what you are gonna spend on a used phone,you might as well go to gsm and with 2 year contract because to get any deal,either with ATT or any other carrier you'll have to sign for 2 years,unless you don't want any deal,or pay for new activation fee with another carrier.Best bet is to migrate,if you want a good deal on gsm let me know,i can migrate you over with a new good package
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well you are gonna a few problems 1)in order to qualify to get a free phone,have to be on current and available plan,2)porting over to cingular won't help because of the "merger",besides they are scrictly gsm no tdma,
it's a done deal, I ported over to Cingular and will be getting $50 back with a rebate. The 3100 only cost me $30, so I end up netting $20 in the end.
it sucks to lose some of the stuff I had, but with rollover, I'll end up making back about what I had before (rolling over anywhere around 50-150 minutes a month should be pretty huge).
and yeah it sucks that the 3100 lacks infrared, but there's a cable to sync it up to the PC, so the data I have in there can be retreive...
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You make rollover sound so good here, seems to me that if you are rolling over 50-150 minutes per month then you are paying for 50-150 minutes too many per month, and if you are consistently doing it then youre most likely not to ever need the minutes youve rolled over.
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on average, I use about 450-550 anytime minutes. because some of the benefits I had wtih AT&T are gone (8pm N&W, 1st incoming minute free), I'd expect these number to baloon up a bit.
over average, I used about 800 total minutes a month.
over average, I used about 800 total minutes a month.
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i'm gonna love working with cingular because i' with att now,but there is soething you better know about rollover,the way it works is that you sign a 2 year contract you get rollover for the first year,and by the way,if your bill is late being paid even by 1 day,you lose your rollover minutes,and don't get them back,and whatever rollover you get at the end of the first year you lose,i agree with those rules as well,but unless you were the 1% who pays their AWS bills on tie,you'll lose your rollover quick,just remember that.
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Yeah that's fair. Just pay the bill on time!
I think one should only sign for one year at a time with any Carrier. especially when you have to begin th ro;; over process at the end of the year.
The two year promos are not worth the promos to me. Especially if porting to a new Carrier....
I think one should only sign for one year at a time with any Carrier. especially when you have to begin th ro;; over process at the end of the year.
The two year promos are not worth the promos to me. Especially if porting to a new Carrier....
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You dont actually lose all the minutes at the end of the year as I understand it. From what I've been told the only minutes you lose are the ones that it's been one year since they were actually accrued.
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DMan is correct. January 2004's rollover minutes disappear end on January 2005, February 2004's end of Feb 2005, etc.
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AGENT DEBIT said:
i'm gonna love working with cingular because i' with att now,but there is soething you better know about rollover,the way it works is that you sign a 2 year contract you get rollover for the first year,and by the way,if your bill is late being paid even by 1 day,you lose your rollover minutes,and don't get them back,and whatever rollover you get at the end of the first year you lose,i agree with those rules as well,but unless you were the 1% who pays their AWS bills on tie,you'll lose your rollover quick,just remember that.
Very... interesting interpretation of the rollover rules.
Fortunately, NOT the ones we use at Cingular.
1) If you are on a rollover plan, you have rollover minutes...
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i'm not interpreting it,just breaking down to the simplest ters,i agree with you,we don't change the plans- the customers makes the choices by doing or not doing what they want,i' just pointing out that if they follow the p&p,they're fine,if they're not it was because of their decisions,thats all i' trying to say.
i'm not interpreting it,just breaking down to the simplest ters,i agree with you,we don't change the plans- the customers makes the choices by doing or not doing what they want,i' just pointing out that if they follow the p&p,they're fine,if they're not it was because of their decisions,thats all i' trying to say.
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DJ,y friend,there is something you gotta know man.-you don't get the rebate,you only get the rebate when you pay retail price,or discount,you don't get to ake oney on the deal,if you check youend up either getting the phone for 30.00 becuase the rebate will get denied,i know i've talked to cingular and i' a ATT rep,you don't make on a phone,otherwise everone would do it,you problably got the instant rebte to make it 30.00,but not to make money,think about it would that make sense if you were the company??
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