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News Release
FOR RELEASE TUESDAY, MAY 18, 2004
AT&T To Offer Wireless Services To Consumers And Businesses Nationwide Through Agreement With Sprint
BEDMINSTER, N.J. - AT&T Corp. (NYSE: T) today announced that it has taken its first step in re-entering the wireless market by reaching an agreement with Sprint that will allow AT&T to sell AT&T-branded wireless service to its over 30 million business and consumer customers. As a result of the five-year agreement, AT&T expects to significantly expand the wireless services it is currently testing in select U.S. markets with hopes of a launch later this year.
"In a world where customers in...
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News Release
FOR RELEASE TUESDAY, MAY 18, 2004
AT&T To Offer Wireless Services To Consumers And Businesses Nationwide Through Agreement With Sprint
BEDMINSTER, N.J. - AT&T Corp. (NYSE: T) today announced that it has taken its first step in re-entering the wireless market by reaching an agreement with Sprint that will allow AT&T to sell AT&T-branded wireless service to its over 30 million business and consumer customers. As a result of the five-year agreement, AT&T expects to significantly expand the wireless services it is currently testing in select U.S. markets with hopes of a launch later this year.
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Everything that's old is new again.
I read an article somewhere where Michael Armstrong, the ex-CEO of AT&T, defended his corporate decisions including the one that sold off major assets of AT&T. One of those assets was AT&T wireless.
Unfortunately, unless the corporate arm of AT&T creates some sort of differentiation between the "real" AT&T and the AT&T wireless that was spun-off and subsequently killed by the combined incompetence of the ATTWS management and Siebel, this venture between the real AT&T and Sprint is going to fail. The name AT&T is mud as far as wireless service is concerned.
I just bought a new phone from Verizon's web site and the delivery will coincide with the end of my contract with ATTWS. I'm betting it'll t...
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I read an article somewhere where Michael Armstrong, the ex-CEO of AT&T, defended his corporate decisions including the one that sold off major assets of AT&T. One of those assets was AT&T wireless.
Unfortunately, unless the corporate arm of AT&T creates some sort of differentiation between the "real" AT&T and the AT&T wireless that was spun-off and subsequently killed by the combined incompetence of the ATTWS management and Siebel, this venture between the real AT&T and Sprint is going to fail. The name AT&T is mud as far as wireless service is concerned.
I just bought a new phone from Verizon's web site and the delivery will coincide with the end of my contract with ATTWS. I'm betting it'll t...
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Who would have thought the ATTWS brand would become the next Virgin Mobile?
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phonepimp3376 said:
Who would have thought the ATTWS brand would become the next Virgin Mobile?
Aw, c'mon.
AT&T is hardly Virgin. 😉
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Oh really? Explain the difference, other than postpaid vs. prepaid. Both are now VMNO's (virtual mobile network operators), both use the same network (Sprint), both have nonexclusivity, hmmmm... sound like Virgin Postpaid...lol
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Well this is the best for Sprint and AT&T.
AT&T has all the money from there old network.
and can do what they want with it.
Sprint will be payied for letting AT&T use there network. Sprint will grow and so will AT&T.
This is a good thing for Sprint and AT&T.
And if you don't know GSM is going to be replaced by CDMA all over the world. So it is just something that needed to happen.
Mark
AT&T has all the money from there old network.
and can do what they want with it.
Sprint will be payied for letting AT&T use there network. Sprint will grow and so will AT&T.
This is a good thing for Sprint and AT&T.
And if you don't know GSM is going to be replaced by CDMA all over the world. So it is just something that needed to happen.
Mark
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Oh really? HELLO!!! Actually the next GSM standard is WCDMA, a GSM overlay which, while using a CDMA algorhythm, is NOT CDMA as many believe. Not to mention, in the Americas, over 80% of new service activations are GSM.
CDMA is not growing as fast as proponents of that technology would like people to believe. While it is a valid technology, and has its good points, there are some things GSM just does better.
For example, the transition from TDMA to GSM services is much smoother than the same transfer from AMPS to CDMA. By this I mean the features on the phone, such as internet and voicemail. This has been my experience at least, and the experience of many of my customers.
And why such a heavy reliance on AMPS with CDMA, when it is ...
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CDMA is not growing as fast as proponents of that technology would like people to believe. While it is a valid technology, and has its good points, there are some things GSM just does better.
For example, the transition from TDMA to GSM services is much smoother than the same transfer from AMPS to CDMA. By this I mean the features on the phone, such as internet and voicemail. This has been my experience at least, and the experience of many of my customers.
And why such a heavy reliance on AMPS with CDMA, when it is ...
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Oh really? HELLO!!! Actually the next GSM standard is WCDMA, a GSM overlay which, while using a CDMA algorhythm, is NOT CDMA as many believe. Not to mention, in the Americas, over 80% of new service activations are GSM.
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WCDMA is CDMA and what you are talking about is CDMA placed over GSM towers. GSM phone will be able to use the the towers but will work better with a CDMA phone.
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CDMA is not growing as fast as proponents of that technology would like people to believe. While it is a valid technology, and has its good points, there are some things GSM just does better.
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Here is the link to learn more
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Oh really? HELLO!!! Actually the next GSM standard is WCDMA, a GSM overlay which, while using a CDMA algorhythm, is NOT CDMA as many believe. Not to mention, in the Americas, over 80% of new service activations are GSM.
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WCDMA is CDMA and what you are talking about is CDMA placed over GSM towers. GSM phone will be able to use the the towers but will work better with a CDMA phone.
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CDMA is not growing as fast as proponents of that technology would like people to believe. While it is a valid technology, and has its good points, there are some things GSM just does better.
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Here is the link to learn more
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WCDMA is CDMA and what you are talking about is CDMA placed over GSM towers. GSM phone will be able to use the the towers but will work better with a CDMA phone.
Last I knew, Qualcomm owned the rights to the CDMA standard, and anyone using it pays Qualcomm. This is not the case with WCDMA. WCDMA is not owned by Qualcomm, it merely borrows some of Qualcomm's idea, therefore there are no fees associated with it's use.
WCDMA is simply the air interface, which is supported by a core GSM network.
http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/3g/index.shtml »
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Well the help from AT&T Sprint will Turn all there TDMA to CDMA.....
Uh, genius... Sprint won't be turning AT&T's ANYTHING into CDMA... AT&T CORP. is the one who contracted to Sprint... AT&T HAS no TDMA...that is ATTWS, a company that was SPUN OFF by AT&T Corp.... and ATTWS, in case you missed the news,is in the process of becoming CINGULAR.
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Uh, genius... Sprint won't be turning AT&T's ANYTHING into CDMA... AT&T CORP. is the one who contracted to Sprint... AT&T HAS no TDMA...that is ATTWS, a company that was SPUN OFF by AT&T Corp.... and ATTWS, in case you missed the news,is in the process of becoming CINGULAR.
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See this is why you should read what people put down. I did not say AT&T had TDMA I said SPRINT had TDMA. And with the money AT&T is going to give to Sprint they can turn the TDMA into CDMA.
Learn to read better.
Mark
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See this is why you should read what people put down. I did not say AT&T had TDMA I said SPRINT had TDMA. And with the money AT&T is going to give to Sprint they can turn the TDMA into CDMA.
Learn to read better.
Mark
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Learn to post using a brain. Sprint PCS already operates on CDMA... they don't have ANY TDMA towers... stop posting.
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mycool -
That's okay... we NEED people like Slim-x to show our customers what excellence is...point to him and say "this is NOT it" 😁
That's okay... we NEED people like Slim-x to show our customers what excellence is...point to him and say "this is NOT it" 😁
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phonepimp3376 said:C'mon guys...no personal attacks, please.
mycool -
That's okay... we NEED people like Slim-x to show our customers what excellence is...point to him and say "this is NOT it" 😁
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They really have no clue about What CDMA or GSM is And What type of Network Sprint PCS has as well.
Sprint has CDMA but they use TDMA as well...
They have two types of networks.
But the main post was about AT&T and how they are going to use Sprints network.....
But they over looked that.
Sprint has CDMA but they use TDMA as well...
They have two types of networks.
But the main post was about AT&T and how they are going to use Sprints network.....
But they over looked that.
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Slim-x said:I hate to tell you this, but Sprint doesn't use TDMA. Just CDMA and AMPS.
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Sprint has CDMA but they use TDMA as well...
They have two types of networks.
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CDMA has AMPS.... And TDMA has AMPS but GSM is the only one that has no AMPS.
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No, CMDA does not "have" AMPS and neither does TDMA.
Equipment do operate on dual modes, or tri modes (not frequencies, that's a different issue)...
There are CDMA only phones (no AMPS).
There are CDMA/AMPS.
There are TDMA/AMPS.
There are GSM.
There are GSM/TDMA.
There are GSM/TDMA/AMPS !
Equipment do operate on dual modes, or tri modes (not frequencies, that's a different issue)...
There are CDMA only phones (no AMPS).
There are CDMA/AMPS.
There are TDMA/AMPS.
There are GSM.
There are GSM/TDMA.
There are GSM/TDMA/AMPS !
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GPRS
The General Packet Radio Service (GPRS) is a non-voice service being developed as part of the GSM path to 3G. This system adds packet data capability (data broken up into manageable chunks, each containing the destination address—the kind of data transmission used in the Internet), and the ability to use more than one of the GSM time slots at a time. While data rates over 170kbps are theoretically possible, achieving these rates would require the service provider to dedicate all eight time slots to a user for data transfer. This is not likely to happen for two reasons.
First, GSM time slots are not in a "bandwidth pool" like a CDMA carrier; when a caller has a time slot, that slot is reserved until the call is completed. So eight sl...
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The General Packet Radio Service (GPRS) is a non-voice service being developed as part of the GSM path to 3G. This system adds packet data capability (data broken up into manageable chunks, each containing the destination address—the kind of data transmission used in the Internet), and the ability to use more than one of the GSM time slots at a time. While data rates over 170kbps are theoretically possible, achieving these rates would require the service provider to dedicate all eight time slots to a user for data transfer. This is not likely to happen for two reasons.
First, GSM time slots are not in a "bandwidth pool" like a CDMA carrier; when a caller has a time slot, that slot is reserved until the call is completed. So eight sl...
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EDGE
The second step on the GSM path to 3G, Enhanced Data rates for Global Evolution (EDGE), changes the modulation scheme. The first step, GPRS is based on something called Gaussian minimum-shift keying (GMSK), which only yields a moderate increase in data bit rates per time slot over regular GSM.
The new modulation scheme introduced by EDGE is called eight-phase-shift keying (8 PSK) and it allows a much higher bit rate. It is also the type of modulation used in WCDMA, so EDGE can be either an intermediate step or a final solution for operators who fail to win UMTS (WCDMA) spectrum. EDGE does require users to have new terminals.
Speeds predicted for EDGE are up to 48 Kbps per time slot, for a theoretical maximum of 384Kbps, assuming ...
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The second step on the GSM path to 3G, Enhanced Data rates for Global Evolution (EDGE), changes the modulation scheme. The first step, GPRS is based on something called Gaussian minimum-shift keying (GMSK), which only yields a moderate increase in data bit rates per time slot over regular GSM.
The new modulation scheme introduced by EDGE is called eight-phase-shift keying (8 PSK) and it allows a much higher bit rate. It is also the type of modulation used in WCDMA, so EDGE can be either an intermediate step or a final solution for operators who fail to win UMTS (WCDMA) spectrum. EDGE does require users to have new terminals.
Speeds predicted for EDGE are up to 48 Kbps per time slot, for a theoretical maximum of 384Kbps, assuming ...
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Code Division
In the final stages of the encoding of the radio link from the base station to the mobile phone, CDMA adds a piece of a very long code to the signal. It's called a "pseudo-random code," but it's not really random at all—it's just very long. In fact, it would take days to transmit the whole thing. So only a specific time slice of the code is used. This long code repeats endlessly on a very precise time schedule, so all that is needed to identify a specific piece of it is to specify a time frame. Think of it as the entire broadcast week of your favorite TV network. Mention "Tuesday, 8 to 9 PM" and another fan of that network will know exactly what show you're talking about.
To stay synchronized, CDMA stations need very accura...
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In the final stages of the encoding of the radio link from the base station to the mobile phone, CDMA adds a piece of a very long code to the signal. It's called a "pseudo-random code," but it's not really random at all—it's just very long. In fact, it would take days to transmit the whole thing. So only a specific time slice of the code is used. This long code repeats endlessly on a very precise time schedule, so all that is needed to identify a specific piece of it is to specify a time frame. Think of it as the entire broadcast week of your favorite TV network. Mention "Tuesday, 8 to 9 PM" and another fan of that network will know exactly what show you're talking about.
To stay synchronized, CDMA stations need very accura...
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WCDMA (UMTS) 3G Solutions
Overview
QUALCOMM developed the world’s first commercially available, fully integrated WCDMA (UMTS) chipset solutions and now offers complete solutions to support high-speed WCDMA (UMTS) networks worldwide. With powerful, multimode data-enabled chipsets, QUALCOMM continues to enhance and improve wireless products that enable GSM and GPRS operators to seamlessly transition to 3G — making the most of existing network investments and reducing start-up costs.
Benefits
Single-source solution
QUALCOMM’s WCDMA (UMTS) chipset solutions include the Launchpad™ suite of applications and software, a solution widely adopted by many manufacturers worldwide for CDMA-based systems. Launchpad encompasses advanced multime...
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Overview
QUALCOMM developed the world’s first commercially available, fully integrated WCDMA (UMTS) chipset solutions and now offers complete solutions to support high-speed WCDMA (UMTS) networks worldwide. With powerful, multimode data-enabled chipsets, QUALCOMM continues to enhance and improve wireless products that enable GSM and GPRS operators to seamlessly transition to 3G — making the most of existing network investments and reducing start-up costs.
Benefits
Single-source solution
QUALCOMM’s WCDMA (UMTS) chipset solutions include the Launchpad™ suite of applications and software, a solution widely adopted by many manufacturers worldwide for CDMA-based systems. Launchpad encompasses advanced multime...
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Slim-x said:...
WCDMA (UMTS) 3G Solutions
Overview
QUALCOMM developed the world’s first commercially available, fully integrated WCDMA (UMTS) chipset solutions and now offers complete solutions to support high-speed WCDMA (UMTS) networks worldwide. With powerful, multimode data-enabled chipsets, QUALCOMM continues to enhance and improve wireless products that enable GSM and GPRS operators to seamlessly transition to 3G — making the most of existing network investments and reducing start-up costs.
Benefits
Single-source solution
QUALCOMM’s WCDMA (UMTS) chipset solutions include the Launchpad™ suite of applications and software, a solution widely adopted by many manufacturers worldwide for CDMA-based systems. Launc
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What exactly is he trying to do? Does he think that by cutting and pasting we'll think it's his own post and decide he's smart after all? Pathetic. Either this guy is some 15 year old troll, or he's got some serious issues.
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Seems to me he's trying to make it look like AT&T is going to singlehandedly take over wireless with the help of Sprint.
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I just wanted to let you know that I am new to cell phone sales and I have a problem understanding the addon bort. exp mlife, text message. 😲
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Well if you could learn more about what you are talking about.... And learn how to read.... Then Learn what I said.. Then and only then could we talk about what is or is not.
So learn more then come back and we can talk more about it.
So learn more then come back and we can talk more about it.
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My friend, you should really learn to quit while you're behind. Sprint PCS does not now, nor has it EVER used TDMA. When they say "the first all digital, all PCS, nationwide network" they are talking about 1900 MHz CDMA, which is what they use and always have. I'm not trying to attack you, but the more you keep insisting that you are right the worse you make yourself look.
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First off this was about AT&T using Sprints CDMA network... That part you all have not even said one thing..... Next WCDMA is not GSM... But CDMA over GSM towers......
Now about TDMA ok one part I was wrong about.
Its CDMA "Operates on 800 and 1900 MHz CDMA networks, and on 800 MHz analog networks."
And TDMA can be turned into CDMA. I was thinking that parts of the off network sprint uses from others was TDMA. But thats all I was wrong about. And about AT&T not owning there TDMA network I never said they did.
BUT the main post that no one is talking about is AT&T and how they are going to use Sprint network.
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Now about TDMA ok one part I was wrong about.
Its CDMA "Operates on 800 and 1900 MHz CDMA networks, and on 800 MHz analog networks."
And TDMA can be turned into CDMA. I was thinking that parts of the off network sprint uses from others was TDMA. But thats all I was wrong about. And about AT&T not owning there TDMA network I never said they did.
BUT the main post that no one is talking about is AT&T and how they are going to use Sprint network.
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The ultimate goal of GSM is to switch over to WCDMA. This is a large leap, moving from its TDMA roots over to CDMA, and from a 200KHz carrier to a 5MHz carrier. New frequency allocations, infrastructure, and handsets will be required for this step, which will provide data rates of up to 2Mbps.
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WCDMA
Wide band CDMA is the ultimate 3G goal of the GSM community. It is CDMA, which means abandoning GSM's TDMA-based architecture in favor of code division multiple access. Carrier bandwidth will jump from 200KHz up to 5MHz, allowing for the much greater capacity and data speeds (up to 2Mbps) inherent in a wideband system. New frequency allocations, terminals and base stations will be required for the changeover to WCDMA.
WCDMA is direct spread technology, which means that it will spread its transmissions over a wide, 5MHz carrier. Hence the name W (wideband) CDMA.
By contrast, CDMA2000® MC (multi-carrier) technology uses from one to three 1.25 MHz carriers to accomplish its high speed interface. The direct spread version of CDMA20...
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Wide band CDMA is the ultimate 3G goal of the GSM community. It is CDMA, which means abandoning GSM's TDMA-based architecture in favor of code division multiple access. Carrier bandwidth will jump from 200KHz up to 5MHz, allowing for the much greater capacity and data speeds (up to 2Mbps) inherent in a wideband system. New frequency allocations, terminals and base stations will be required for the changeover to WCDMA.
WCDMA is direct spread technology, which means that it will spread its transmissions over a wide, 5MHz carrier. Hence the name W (wideband) CDMA.
By contrast, CDMA2000® MC (multi-carrier) technology uses from one to three 1.25 MHz carriers to accomplish its high speed interface. The direct spread version of CDMA20...
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Stop. Please stop spreading wrongful knowledge.
1) ATT does NOT own their "old infrustracture". ATTWS (a spunoff company) still owns all the towers.
2) I don't wanna go into the whole GSM being replaced by CDMA thing again, I already pointed out how wrong you were in your other post, so no need to do it again.
1) ATT does NOT own their "old infrustracture". ATTWS (a spunoff company) still owns all the towers.
2) I don't wanna go into the whole GSM being replaced by CDMA thing again, I already pointed out how wrong you were in your other post, so no need to do it again.
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And you're a "waist" of everyone else's time. Leave the "big" discussions to the people who know what they are talking about and just read. If you really want to post something, it should be like "what's a good phone to use?" or something basic like that.
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You are a joke.
You are the one thats full of it.
You said you posted something to me before and you did not you are the one who should learn from others.
You are the one thats full of it.
You said you posted something to me before and you did not you are the one who should learn from others.
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https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
It was supposed to be that post but apparantly phonescoop cut my message after i started making my first point. I don't wanna go over it again, just accept that you were wrong in every possible way and let's move on.
It was supposed to be that post but apparantly phonescoop cut my message after i started making my first point. I don't wanna go over it again, just accept that you were wrong in every possible way and let's move on.
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So by saying " WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ARE YOU SERIOUS!?
1) No. There >AREDON'T"
You showed me the where I was wrong ?
What a joke
1) No. There >AREDON'T"
You showed me the where I was wrong ?
What a joke
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