Will Cingular have a better network than Verizon Wireless
I have Verizon service currently because of the amazing covage accross the US. Will Cingular now have better covage since the own AT&T now?
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If they keep all their assets and GSM towers for both companies are shared, there's going to be tighter in city coverage. Verizon actually doesn't get that overwhelming of reports for in city coverage anyway, so yes, the coverage should be better in most metro areas. As far as travelling goes, Verizon's network is still going to be more far reaching because of it's analog roaming services.
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And if that coverage in the metro areas emerges, I still don't think it'll be as reliable at first.
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they should once everything is said and done.
and as for verizon, they are a paper company (looks good on the map but not in reality).
and as for verizon, they are a paper company (looks good on the map but not in reality).
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I can't say about the rest of the country, but in the Northwest ATTWS has less coverage than anyone except Cricket and T Mobile. ATTWS customers are bailing to Verizon and Sprint at a brisk rate. A paper company? Why then can Verizon customers use their phones in rural locations? ATTWS and Cingular suffer from a myopia about GSM. It is all about not spending money on their network. GSM costs much, much less to deploy than CDMA and offers less call quality and bandwidth than CDMA. GSM is only the stepping stone to a form of CDMA, UMTS. Verizon and Sprint offer true 3g service and have for over a year. Verizon is the real deal and Sprint is the up and coming competitor. I have had ATTWS, Sprint and US Cellular. US Cellular was the best as far ...
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I can't say much about Verizon's coverage in the NW--I was with them for 3 years and there are tons of places I have coverage w/TMobile that I could never raise a bar of signal with VZW... and the call quality tended to be pretty abysmal. Yeah, if you get off the major corridors anywhere out here the coverage ain't good, but that's just because nobody LIVES out here! Sparse population + long distances between communities = fairly crummy wireless coverage no matter what type of network... I can make calls from my bedroom w/TMobile which is more than I could EVER say about VZW!
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How about coverage in downtown Seattle, is that considered rural? ATTWS has dead spots in the city of Seattle that no one else has.How about I-5 between Olympia and Tacoma? As a former ATTWS customer and current Sprint Customer I can tell you that in the Northwest ATTWS has less urban coverage. In Eugene, OR there are dead spots in the city limits. GSM calls routinely drop in town. I'm sorry, but the ATTWS network that was so formidable a few years back has really deteriorated.
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A network doesn't "deteriorate" just like that. They'd literally have to spend NO money on towers and let them rot. How in the world does a network just NATURALLY deteroirate.. it isn't bread or milk. The spectrum isn't going anywhere.
I LOVE my GSM coverage with AWS. I use it in mainly the metro detroit area, but I have also used it in California, Indiana, Chicago and Dallas, TX. Never had an issue with it while I was using my Nokia phone. The only issues I had with GSM was my first phone (T68i)... soon after it was replaced all was good.
I LOVE my GSM coverage with AWS. I use it in mainly the metro detroit area, but I have also used it in California, Indiana, Chicago and Dallas, TX. Never had an issue with it while I was using my Nokia phone. The only issues I had with GSM was my first phone (T68i)... soon after it was replaced all was good.
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mycool said:
A network doesn't "deteriorate" just like that. They'd literally have to spend NO money on towers and let them rot. How in the world does a network just NATURALLY deteroirate.. it isn't bread or milk. The spectrum isn't going anywhere.
I LOVE my GSM coverage with AWS. I use it in mainly the metro detroit area, but I have also used it in California, Indiana, Chicago and Dallas, TX. Never had an issue with it while I was using my Nokia phone. The only issues I had with GSM was my first phone (T68i)... soon after it was replaced all was good.
I think the perception that ATTWS's network has deteriorated in the last few years is just that...perception. When ATTWS first rolled out its nationwide ...
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oh crap, another bleeding heart liberal! Hey, help save the planet, stop breathing!
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ugh, don't know what happen to my last post...
anyways, here in st. louis vzw has more holes then a block of swiss cheese. and their coverage in the rural area's here is much worse then cing. i can roam on my attws gsm phone in those area's and generally still get a decent signal when i happen to be in those area's.
anyways, here in st. louis vzw has more holes then a block of swiss cheese. and their coverage in the rural area's here is much worse then cing. i can roam on my attws gsm phone in those area's and generally still get a decent signal when i happen to be in those area's.
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So SPCSVZWjeff. Are you saying Verizon and Sprint managed to get to true 3G when Tokyo just managed to get there 2 years ago on the W-CDMA network? Last time I checked, no one in the country had a W-CDMA network.
I could be wrong but all my reasearch stated that verizon wastryingtopullout there CDMA2000 netork to make it "3G" but all current CMDA is still under "2G" platform.
that could just be me though
I could be wrong but all my reasearch stated that verizon wastryingtopullout there CDMA2000 netork to make it "3G" but all current CMDA is still under "2G" platform.
that could just be me though
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CDMA 2000 and WCDMA are variations of networks that meet 3g standards. there will be upgrades to CDMA 2000 as there will be to UMTS
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WCDMA is completely COMPLETELY different then CDMA 2000. CDMA 2000 is a combination of various '3G' standards beginning with 1xRTT, and going to 1xEV-DO, 1xEV-DV, etc. WCDMA (The underlying network for UMTS standards), is completely different.
Thats not even in this argument. AT&T Wireless and Cingulars GSM networks are completely different then their aging TDMA networks, which are the ones your complaining.
Thats not even in this argument. AT&T Wireless and Cingulars GSM networks are completely different then their aging TDMA networks, which are the ones your complaining.
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as i'm sure you all know that AWS has EDGE service for months and are trialing it ,i do believe in Denver and Dallas or Seattle.so currently it would seem that AWS is further along in the data race than anyone. 😛
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Actually, AWS has EDGE deployed all over the country right now, in about I think 80-90% of their GSM coverage. The problem is, few phones take advantage of it, which is actually what AWS wants, as they beef up the capacity of EDGE. 🙂
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I don't notice a difference when using my Nokia 6200 WAP browser vs my Nokia 6310i vs my Nokia 3590 vs Moto T720 vs Unlocked S105 vs unlocked SE T616 vs unlocked Nokia 3595.
I live in Metro Detroit, MI ...
Is it just me not noticing it?
Is it the WAP limitations vs using some sort of pc card?
Is it not available on GSM in Detroit?
Is it rate plan dependant on the SPEED you can access?
WHAT IS IT!?
I live in Metro Detroit, MI ...
Is it just me not noticing it?
Is it the WAP limitations vs using some sort of pc card?
Is it not available on GSM in Detroit?
Is it rate plan dependant on the SPEED you can access?
WHAT IS IT!?
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moobak said:
Actually, AWS has EDGE deployed all over the country right now, in about I think 80-90% of their GSM coverage. The problem is, few phones take advantage of it, which is actually what AWS wants, as they beef up the capacity of EDGE. 🙂
And once they get capacity beefed up...we can get a better comparison to EV-DO/EV-DV (which will be up and running in most of the country).
Hi Moo! ;)
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LOL, I didn't even notice it the first time through but this guy is a joke. He obviously discredits his own self with his remark that VZW is already at 3G. HAHAHAHA!
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as does he with his comparison of CDMA 2000 to W-CDMA... W-CDMA is now, and was developed totally as, a GSM overlay. CDMA 2000 uses the old Qualcomm CDMA skeleton. W-CDMA is not based on Qualcomm's model, which is why Qualcomm receives no royalties for it.
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