Exactly!!!!! If your not doing anything illegal, then who cares? If it makes this country safer in the long run then I'm all for it!

Nextel 18 said..........


"i always thought that this wasnt a big deal and if they wanted consumers records who cares becuase it increases the level of security on this country- we cant afford another 9/11. (it would pretty much destroy the country's finances)

i think if they also want to spy on our daily lives every second then again same premise with what i just said would be applied here.

as long as it keeps us safe then so be it."

i am doing nothing illegal so the only thing they will get from my conversations is bored 😁

Mary424 said:
Nextel 18 said..........


"i always thought that this wasnt a big deal and if they wanted consumers records who cares becuase it increases the level of security on this country- we cant afford another 9/11. (it would pretty much destroy the country's finances)

i think if they also want to spy on our daily lives every second then again same premise with what i just said would be applied here.

as long as it keeps us safe then so be it."

That's just retarded if you think tapping lines is going to make the country safer. 9/11 had all the signs and CIA bush and all the other ftards didn't do anything about it. To sit here and say tapping millions and millions of customers is goi...
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Well take a look around nothing else has happened since 9/11 so obviously everything the government has been doing is making this country safer

Oh please! Nothing happened before 9/11 either, which obviously meant we were safe then, too! 🙄

my point i have been trying to convey to the message boards on all carriers with this discussion.

nextel18 said:
my point i have been trying to convey to the message boards on all carriers with this discussion.

Which is pretty lame. Comply or you have something to hide. Great talking points.

you need to make a stronger Argument

how is it lame?

only people will complain or wont comply if they have something to hide.. its a simple premise and a sound one.. if you dont agree you cant say "pretty lame".

nextel18 said:
how is it lame?

only people will complain or wont comply if they have something to hide.. its a simple premise and a sound one.. if you dont agree you cant say "pretty lame".

I got nothing to hide go ahead Nextel18, I give permission to look at my record.

Unlike you I value what privacy I have as well as my right NOT TO HAVE THE GOVERNMENT SPY ON ME W/OUT A WARRANT.

we dont have privacy anymore..

enough with the caps-please.

the Gov already spies on us what does it make a difference if they are just going to have the phone records to make some analysis?

i see no problem.

nextel18 said:
we dont have privacy anymore..

enough with the caps-please.

the Gov already spies on us what does it make a difference if they are just going to have the phone records to make some analysis?

i see no problem.

Fine, sorry about the caps.

You continue to say it's okay for the government to this. It's pretty funny, considering we just removed a dictator for doing the same thing.

yep; it is ok for them to do this..

i have made my points 100s of times..

I agree with Nextel, if you have nothing to hide than what the F&&& is the problem

Oh, what if you don't know you have something to hide? Who are you to determine what is to be hidden?

its not up to me, its up to the government

All you paranoid people who worry all the time about "BIG BROTHER" watching you need to lay off the drugs and get a life!

...wait a minute, I'm missing the point then. It's unconstitutional for the GOV to tap into my personal space because it violates the fourth amendment on privacy? That's just one point.

Nextel18 had a few points:

#1: We're at war!
#2: Only people who have something to hide need worry.
#3: Terrorists are in the US right now!

dca said:
...wait a minute, I'm missing the point then. It's unconstitutional for the GOV to tap into my personal space because it violates the fourth amendment on privacy? That's just one point.

Nextel18 had a few points:

#1: We're at war!

Really, so that gives the government the right to do what it wants, nevermind the constitution, bii of rights, and the geneva covention.

#2: Only people who have something to hide need worry.

I got nothing to hide. I rent, drive a car, have a job, and go to college. Like I said, if u don't believe me, I'll be glad to assist you in getting the info about me. It's funny when someone expresses thier right disscent they're imdiatly suspected of having something to hide.lol ...
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Too late, they already killed 3000 people and destroyed the Pentagon & WTC...

I guess the rest of 'em must have left after that job well done...




It's not an issue of defending your rights, it's an issue of taking a pragmatic approach to explaining your rights. A lot of things have changed in the way we (GOV/USA) do business since WWII.

How? We still have the Bill of Rights and the constitution or are they both just a goddamn piece of papers?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=it%27s+just+a+g ... »

enjoy!

Look, I would like to continue this, but I got to go to work. I do look forward to your rebuttal when I get home.

nextel18 said:
oh come on... it is like you have something to hide without complying with the GOV. come on.

if you have nothing to hide, let them and then who cares.

Former Sen. Joe McCarthy agrees with you too.

yeah like unless your planing to bomb something you should'nt care too much, like the most they can get is some nasty phone sex you had 2 years ago, right? 🤣

You bring it upon yourself with your trolling ways

Nice to hear from you too.

All of you morons who are complaiing about this should read this excerpt from the article on MSNBC.

"Verizon Wireless spokesman Jeffrey Nelson definitively said his company was “not involved in this situation.” His counterparts at Cingular — an AT&T/BellSouth joint venture — and Sprint Nextel Corp. were less explicit and did not deny any participation."

I hate the media in this country, it sucks!!! They report half truthes and get many people all angry, scared and upset about things that are not even true. If a reporter cannot be 100% certain that something is true they should not legally be allowed to report it. And if they do report something that ends up being untrue the media outlet that allowed them to report the story should ...
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first of all...this issue pertains only to the residential landlines...not wireless industries..second...is pertaining to phone records.., not tapes of conversations....so go to your residential phone company and file complaint...verizon is not the same as verizon wireless..althought the names are similar. 🙄

The funniest things about this debate are:

#1 As stated a billion times on this post it is NOT Verizon Wireless that is involved.

#2 The same people b*tching about their right to privacy are the same ones that are in the malls, groceries, and restaurants everyday blathering on their cell phones (on speakerphone so you can hear both sides of their incessant rambling) about their lives and talking about their best friends, sister's, brother's, boyfriend's, cousin's, uncle who has hemorrhoids while you are just trying to enjoy a nice cup of latte and relax. Privacy? HA!

Vote_4_Pedro said:


#2 The same people b*tching about their right to privacy are the same ones that are in the malls, groceries, and restaurants everyday blathering on their cell phones (on speakerphone so you can hear both sides of their incessant rambling) about their lives and talking about their best friends, sister's, brother's, boyfriend's, cousin's, uncle who has hemorrhoids while you are just trying to enjoy a nice cup of latte and relax. Privacy? HA!

How do you know it's the same people? I'm very private in my use of my phone, and I object to records being collected by the government without the normal steps being taken to protect privacy. Whether or not I have anything to hide is certainly n...
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