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sparker781

Jul 12, 2011, 1:55 PM
The idea of using a bought phone from another network and use it on VW network? All this talk about freedom from network carriers blah blah...Was it all just a lie?
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cellphoneguy

Jul 12, 2011, 2:05 PM
Where you been at for the last 10 years?Please tell me you are not foreal?
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sparker781

Jul 12, 2011, 2:08 PM
I was only kidding....HEHEHE
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Azeron

Jul 12, 2011, 2:21 PM
Verizon gave us a little song and dance and we swallowed it hook, line and sinker. It was supposed to be a way for manufacturers to roll their devices out without carrier interference. Verizon IS the same company which settled a lawsuit over Blue-tooth profiles on the V710 rather than open the phone up. It is laughable now but at the time a big deal. When they teamed up with Google for Android, many believed they had changed but alas no dice.

"Was it all just a lie?"

Hell yeah!
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sparker781

Jul 12, 2011, 2:25 PM
i figured as much
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Celling_it

Jul 12, 2011, 11:11 PM
This is still available, just need someone to manufacture and sell the phones. It is not economically feasible, that is why no one is doing it. Even Google had very little success selling the Nexus.
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Azeron

Jul 13, 2011, 8:42 AM
Uh-huh. Who is going to manufacture a phone and then wait twenty months for Verizon to fart around and allow all the features on the phone to become obsolete awaiting on Verizon approval?
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epik

Jul 13, 2011, 11:12 PM
None have to. Saygus got their phone approved in much less time.
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epik

Jul 13, 2011, 11:19 PM
There are a good number of manufacturers playing in the sandbox, but none of them make consumer phones.
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CellStudent

Jul 14, 2011, 4:59 PM
It still CAN be done, but the reason it hasn't taken off is that Verizon is still in control of the monthly pricing, and they don't give discounts to people who buy outside equipment.

If you have to pay the same monthly bill whether you bought a subsidized handset or an off-brand handset, what's the incentive for a manufacturer to build off-brand handsets? There's not a significant advantage to the consumer, so they can't sell them- at least not in the CDMA world.

Once voice over LTE has traction, I think we'll start to see more non-Verizon handsets come available.
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Azeron

Jul 15, 2011, 8:33 AM
...because people won't expect free or nearly free LTE handsets.
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CellStudent

Jul 15, 2011, 8:50 AM
Azeron said:
...because people won't expect free or nearly free LTE handsets.


We're not going to see 20% adoption rates, or anything close to that, but once AT&T and Verizon both have LTE deployed in the 700 MHz band, and support voice over LTE nearly nationwide, it will be a relatively simple matter to for a handset maker to construct one handset that works on both networks- without support for legacy CDMA or GSM. Then we'll start to see some of the same interoperability benefits that GSM in Europe has seen and an unsubsidized model will likely emerge among early adopters.

As long as voice over LTE is still billed in strict megabytes (like todays data cards) and not "minutes + data" like current gener...
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Azeron

Jul 15, 2011, 10:45 AM
Verizon is not going to approve an All LTE device with no support for CDMA1x or Rev. A as long as they are still paying for those networks. So since they have committed to keep CDMA running until 2020 there is no rush.
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