ok guys, i got the message. i realize that many of you have far much better technical knowledge than i. when i was most your age, i had to do a *18 just to roam. it is just like everything seems to be the same thing these days. i guess that a carrier can only pack so much close to the same thing in each phone depending on each manufacturer. i guess what i am hoping for is a droid X type phone someday in a 4g mode. it will happen i am sure. in the meantime, it is what it is now with the selection of the 4g world. no, i am not switching. like i said, vxw is and should be proud of their network, and yes, you are all correct, carriers do not really care that much about customer churn. i agree with you on that fact. let's let this post rest in peace.