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Just PAY the extra MONEY!!!

Its-The-Network

Apr 20, 2010, 2:07 PM
Jesus these cheap customers acting like they're broke! If you have a cell phone you have MONEY! Don't tell you that you don't have an extra $20 in a month 🙄 Please. I think we all agree that anyone who is paying the extra $10 bucks on a dumbphone doesn't have all their faculties, so just pay another $20 and enjoy everything Verizon has to offer!! Yes you have the money, you have a cell phone! you drove here in a car! you have a roof over your head, you're going to have a nice dinner tonight! Yes you have the damn extra $20 bucks!
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Amarantamin

Apr 20, 2010, 2:17 PM
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cwcanty

Apr 20, 2010, 2:39 PM
they may have the money, but that doesnt mean it should be allocated for a ridiculous fee.

The real solution is too just charge more for the phones. These crazy discounted phones are eroding the value of these devices and forces verizon to make up money in other ways with these fees.

By your logic we should pay $4.50 for gas just because we might be able to afford it. Just because you can afford it, doesnt make it right.

My two cents....


Chris
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Its-The-Network

Apr 20, 2010, 2:52 PM
The day of the dumb flip phone is dead, and most customers understand that and are easily persuaded into paying 30$ when I explain it to them. Don't pay $10 you will still not appreciate data, and overages are likely. It was just a few knuckleheads that want to BLOCK DATA on all my lines 🙄 Get out of here go get a Boost phone. Smart phones are the future get on the stick or be left behind.
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cwcanty

Apr 20, 2010, 4:57 PM
Trust me, the day of the dumb phone is far from dead. millions of people want nothing more than a phone that can talk and text and verizon needs to provide reasonable options to people before they lose customers.

If people want to block data, do it and move on. Its not your life, your money or your phone. People deserve options and maybe someday you will understand that. But until then, provide people with they want and move in. No need to bash people that just want a basic phone.

Chris
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epik

Apr 20, 2010, 6:14 PM
To play devil's advocate for just a moment, if I don't sell enough in monthly data fees, I won't have a job in short time, so it is my livelihood and my money, indirectly. And believe me, every job I qualify for that pops up on the market is not easy to get with so many people looking for work, so it's not that easy to get a new job (unless I set my sights way low).
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cwcanty

Apr 20, 2010, 7:51 PM
I understand your point, Im not saying you shouldnt push data, but I think you also have to understand that not everyone is going to convert over to a data type phone.
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Menno

Apr 20, 2010, 7:54 PM
Which is undersandable, and that is why there are several non-data offerings.

The problem is people don't want to accept those offerings. They want a specific phone with an incompatible price plan.

It's like me going to a BMW dealer and saying I want your roadster, but I'm only going to pay as much as I would for a Kia economy car because that's all I'm really going to use it for, I just like how it looks. where do I sign?
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Azeron

Apr 23, 2010, 8:14 AM
Give me a break! Not you too! The Envy Touch did not launch as a BMW. It launched as a Ford and then one day customers had to have a data plan. I can't believe you, Menno.
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Menno

Apr 23, 2010, 12:02 PM
I'm not defending the current phones that required data, I never have. I'm explaining the policy.

I've said this several dozen times in the past three months.. I was unaware I had to put it as a disclaimer in every post still.

remember, the envtouch launched at $250 too.
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Menno

Apr 23, 2010, 12:38 PM
That I refused to sell a EnVtouch to someone who wasn't interested in data before it required it. This was because this was the ONLY way I could make money on the device unless it was a primary line (family share lines, new or upgrade, sucked)

As I've said countless times, they should've discontinued all current phones and just released the updates with required data.

That being said, with phones like the EnVtouch/Rogue, it's pretty hard to justify paying for a device like that without using data. ('m talking about before they became stupid cheap cause of data.. remember, the rogue debuted $100 cheaper than the envtouch because it launched requiring data)

I'm just getting tired of people CONTINUING to bitch about it months later....
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Azeron

Apr 23, 2010, 3:47 PM
That's all fine and dandy EXCEPT that this particular thread was started by an A-hole who wanted to stick his thumb in the eyes of people who complain about the data plan. Don't co-sign with that jerk. Let's take his *Bleep* out back and kick his teeth in. I too am tired of people complaining about the data plan. I have stated countless times that the only language Verizon will understand is cancellation of service. If they lose a few million subscribers THEN perhaps they will open their eyes.
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Menno

Apr 23, 2010, 4:26 PM
But they won't. Numbers were posted and Churn was LOWER. so people arn't leaving.



and I was replying to CWcandy, not the OP
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WernerCD

Apr 23, 2010, 8:30 PM
Those who *JUST* upgraded in Jan (before the change) didn't have to deal with the decision... they will complain when they are eligible for upgrade, because it will be new for them.

Or parents who aren't due upgrades for kids until December.

Welcome to Verizon. Blatant fees and blind sheep who piss and moan yet pay.
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Menno

Apr 24, 2010, 12:01 AM
Verizon called the customers bluff, the customers folded. They need to get a stronger hand
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Azeron

Apr 24, 2010, 4:28 PM
Did they? Where can I find Verizon's first quarter 2010 numbers?
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Menno

Apr 24, 2010, 4:31 PM
Boy genius and engadget reported them. while net adds were lower (industry wide) Churn fell to 1.07
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Azeron

Apr 24, 2010, 4:34 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/verizon-posts-fir ... »

Okay. Got'em. This is positive. Now if only more of these threats become reality.
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Menno

Apr 24, 2010, 4:37 PM
You'll notice their Churn FELL so they didn't lose customers. meaning the threats were just hot air.

And it'd a down economy in a saturated market.. compare last quarter with 1.xmillion net adds, and att only adding 500k and verizon 400k

Also remember that last quarter was the strongest non-holiday quarter for apple EVER.
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epik

Apr 20, 2010, 11:13 PM
Yup, I get it just fine, and we still do fine with our sales numbers.
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Azeron

Apr 23, 2010, 8:12 AM
Don't play devil's advocate. This entire post is a jab at reasonable people and never should have been posted. Please someone do us all a favor and break the OP's neck.
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Azeron

Apr 23, 2010, 8:09 AM
providing "reasonable options called Page Plus. Unlimited Talk and Text for $39.99 on Big Red's vaunted network. The OP is an arrogant SOB who should be pummeled into oblivion. Jerk!
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llama

Apr 23, 2010, 10:38 AM
from what you said, is VZW = Page Plus. I know they use "The Network" but is it them (knida like Boost) or a MVNO?
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epik

Apr 23, 2010, 11:51 AM
MVNO, and the phones (from PP at least) are refurb models from 2004 through 2007.
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LL Cool Jake

Apr 23, 2010, 12:01 PM
Yep nothing cool for page plus customers ☚ī¸ Really who wants to walk around with an lg 8300! or the v710 đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ
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epik

Apr 23, 2010, 12:04 PM
The LG 3200 ROCKS THE HOUSE!
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LL Cool Jake

Apr 23, 2010, 12:06 PM
Had one of those was held together with duct tape even, but Jesus no thank you.
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epik

Apr 23, 2010, 12:08 PM
I had the 3100 before it. Still in my box of phones, even.
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Azeron

Apr 23, 2010, 3:50 PM
I do. Of course, I AM sporting an Lg-VX8100 (it's pappy) even now. The VX-8300 is the BEST PHONE LG ever made.
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Azeron

Apr 23, 2010, 3:55 PM
Don't let the Verizon guys fool you. If you don't like Page Plus' phone offerings you can take in your own Verizon or Alltel handset and they will activate it for you. Yes it is Verizon's network. No, one does not get Verizon's MOST EXCELLENT customer service (no sarcasm) but with Unlimited minutes and messsages one really has no reason to call them anyway. I'll say it again...Verizon's customer service is good, but it isn't worth paying an extra $50 monthly. (Verizon's Select Unlimited versus Page Plus Unlimited Talk and Text).
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epik

Apr 24, 2010, 12:49 AM
OK, I have to say something here. As much as I respect your comments and opinions, Azeron, I can't help but defend myself as the only "Verizon guy" who responded to llama's inquiry prior to this comment.

1) Page Plus is an MVNO. If you want to call them a reseller of airtime, go ahead, but keep in mind that some on here think "reseller" and "indirect" mean the same thing. I was being clear, reflecting on llama's question, which asked if Page Plus was a division of Verizon or an MVNO using Verizon network.

2) You CAN take many Verizon phones to Page Plus. I didn't say otherwise. In fact, I said:
MVNO, and the phones (from PP at least) are refurb models from 2004 through 2007.

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Azeron

Apr 24, 2010, 4:01 PM
You and Menno are two of the better posters here. Yes, this particular thread you are the only Verizon guy posting, but normally there are others who bash Page Plus. I am sorry if you feel you were targeted. Verizon guys means exactly that in my mind. If you happen to be a Verizon employee who is not misrepresenting Page Plus' coverage or network (which is Verizon's after all) then I have no problem with you. Hell even if you WERE, I have no problem. I don't work for them. I just call it the way I see it. I routinely praise and criticize Verizon in the same thread because that is the way I see things. I'm not here to attack you or anyone else (well maybe bluecoyote). I would have answered his query the exact same way had you never ...
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LL Cool Jake

Apr 23, 2010, 11:21 AM
but horrible customer service, you don't get to use all of verizon native network so roaming fees do apply, no smartphones! just basic cheap flips, not a good deal. It's just basically for cheapees!
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Menno

Apr 23, 2010, 11:55 AM
and guess who the people asking for dirt cheap unlimited plans are?

There is a TRADEOFF when you drop the price. For cellphones, it's phone quality, network stability, and customer service (unless you are talking small regional networks, then the tradeoff is coverage)
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LL Cool Jake

Apr 23, 2010, 12:02 PM
CHEEPOS! That's who đŸ¤Ŗ
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Azeron

Apr 24, 2010, 4:13 PM
You'd be able to breath if you removed Verizon's *Bleep* from your throat.
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Azeron

Apr 24, 2010, 4:12 PM
In this case it is only customer service and as I have stated many times before, with unlimited minutes and messaging one does not need customer service and it certainly is not worth an extra fifty dollars per month. Same great network, eh? Exactly!
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Azeron

Apr 24, 2010, 4:09 PM
You resemble the type of poster I was talking about when I said "Verizon guys". The map speaks for itself. The green and red are covered areas.

http://www.pagepluscellular.com/Why%20Page%20Plus/Co ... »

The green and red are covered areas.
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epik

Apr 25, 2010, 12:30 AM
I think the type of person you're describing is something like what I alluded to in this post:
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

Perhaps "Verizon loyalist" is a better description here: someone who's unable or unwilling to admit that other companies have merit, even if in some minuscule way.
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Kayslay34

Apr 21, 2010, 2:24 PM
lol the future... smart phones have been around for years. And its funny how you said "persuaded" the customers thats a nice word for forcing someone into a decision.

Why do you think its alright to charge someone 30 dollars for something that cost verizon maybe 5 dollars. Greed is what put our economy in this mess.
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This_Troper

Apr 21, 2010, 3:27 PM
Isn't that how economies work? You charge more than how much it costs to get it?
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OrionsVantage

Apr 21, 2010, 6:57 PM
I thought every sucessful business model revolved around profits.

Thats how capitalism works, right?
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Kayslay34

Apr 22, 2010, 10:21 AM
Ya doubling your investment is usually good enough, ask any business man, if you can double your investment that is huge, most business thrive off of penny profit like McDonald's, they sell mcdoubles for $1 and it cost them 92 cents to make the product. They are only making 8 cents a burger but they still bank.

So point is, major cell phone companies rape customers for their money. Its only in the US where cell phone service is so expensive.
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epik

Apr 22, 2010, 1:28 PM
Really. Rape customers.

Most businesses thrive off penny profits


As if. If "most" businesses existed off these kinds of profits, that means they wouldn't be in business. It's business 101.

Let's say I run a burger joint. I only have one, though I'd like to become a chain someday.

I have five employees who work for minimum wage at $7.25/hour. For the sake of the example, I work for free, I'm open only five days a week and eight hours a day, and I only have one other person working with me each day. Not realistic in the bit, but it makes the math easier.

Assuming I have free electricity, free water, free waste disposal, free property maintenance, free equipment, no city or state taxes, no insurance...
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Azeron

Apr 23, 2010, 8:17 AM
Verizon is long overdue for a correction. Arrogance such as this is rampant throughout its culture and the backlash is going to be sudden.
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epik

Apr 22, 2010, 12:25 PM
From my point of view, having had the Treo 600, Samsung i700, HTC 6600, Samsung i730, HTC 6700, Motorola Q, Samsung i760, HTC 6800, HTC 6900, HTC Touch Pro, Samsung Omnia, Blackberry Pearl, Blackberry Curve, Blackberry 8830, Blackberry Storm, and the Motorola Droid, I'd say that "smartphones" as we know them today have not been around "for years." In fact, they've evolved so drastically over the last seven years I've been using them that a "smartphone" from two years ago wouldn't work anything like a smartphone of today. In fact, when I started carrying them, the word smartphone wasn't even being used.

While you can argue that "smartphones" have been around for years, you can't imply that they've been the same class of smartphone for al...
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texaswireless

Apr 23, 2010, 12:28 AM
Something tells me you don't understand how to budget your money.

Good luck with that BK a few years from now.
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Amarantamin

Apr 20, 2010, 3:24 PM
Sprint charges nothing extra in data for switching from a 'dumb'phone to a smartphone. Also, their data plans include AMAT.

However, this is because the phones themselves are a bit more expensive... But not '$240.00/year-in-extra-monthly-charges' more expensive!

So, in other words, you're right.
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Its-The-Network

Apr 20, 2010, 3:30 PM
No it's not because the phones are a bit more expensive. Do we really have to go over this again with all the sprint trolls? Dan Hesse would love nothing more than to charge what Verizon and AT@T does, but he can't and is not thick headed enough to think he can. The dirt cheap rock bottom pricing is because sprint is failing.
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Amarantamin

Apr 20, 2010, 3:33 PM
lol, okay.

Network wise, ATT should be the cheap carrier, if what you're stating is true. Verizon and Sprint typicly always test out on-par with each other.

Also, Sprint pays its employees less on average, so that's where some of the cheaper rate is coming from.
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Its-The-Network

Apr 20, 2010, 3:38 PM
I said Sprint is failing not that their network sucks. I have used their network it's very good. It doesn't matter what you and I think, Dan Hesse nukes have not come to fruit, and their investors are growing more weary with each failing quarter.
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Amarantamin

Apr 20, 2010, 5:03 PM
Ah... hrm...

It's Nextel's fault.

🙂
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sunilsonia

Apr 20, 2010, 5:34 PM
Amarantamin said:
Ah... hrm...

It's Nextel's fault.

🙂



Take a good look at my answers in this thread and let me know what your thoughts are. I'd be particularly interested to know from someone like yourself. 😎
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Menno

Apr 20, 2010, 8:03 PM
It's actually not. nextel was a very respected business brand until Sprint took it over. Sprint wanted nextel for bandwidth more than customers though, so they started pushing people off (towards the end nextel did get kind of desperate for customers and took on a whole bunch of unprofitable ones)

The problem is that sprint's name suffered through all this, and instead of working to build up their brand, they responded by saying "our reputation might suck, but we're cheaper!" which is NOT the message you want to send.
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Menno

Apr 20, 2010, 8:00 PM
it's all about public perception. People perceive Sprint as a "cheap" carrier. Some of this is their fault, some of it is because of good marketing by others.

If people perceived the sprint brand to have the same value as Verizon, sprints prices would be higher. they might not be as high as verizon, but they wouldn't be as dirt cheap as they are not

and ATT's prices would be cheaper if they didn't get the Iphone. that is the only reason they are above water atm.
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epik

Apr 20, 2010, 6:16 PM
Amarantamin said: Also, their data plans include AMAT.



Good, cause the mat outside my front door was looking rather old.
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snowboard545

Apr 20, 2010, 5:16 PM
here's the deal. im 29. there was a time i didnt think i needed a cell phone. then it was text messaging, then it was internet. every one of these things i never saw the value in until i used them and got used to them. now i love it. every person i help that comes and says "i dont need the internet", or " i dont use the internet on my phone" .... what they really mean is "i dont want to pay for it" you know why? if it was free they would use it, and love it. i guarantee every person that says they dont "need" the internet on the phone will be using it in the next couple years. and just like me 10 years, they said " i dont need a cell phone" at some point in their life.

here's the thing, as a sales rep.... you take someone to a smar...
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sunilsonia

Apr 20, 2010, 5:27 PM
snowboard545 said:
here's the deal. im 29. there was a time i didnt think i needed a cell phone. then it was text messaging, then it was internet. every one of these things i never saw the value in until i used them and got used to them. now i love it. every person i help that comes and says "i dont need the internet", or " i dont use the internet on my phone" .... what they really mean is "i dont want to pay for it" you know why? if it was free they would use it, and love it. i guarantee every person that says they dont "need" the internet on the phone will be using it in the next couple years. and just like me 10 years, they said " i dont need a cell phone" at some point in their life.

here's the thing, as a s
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Platypus

Apr 20, 2010, 5:36 PM
That's great now this time tell us another Airline story regarding why sprint is so dirt cheap when they have such a great network! Why do they want to charge so little? I'll be back later to check on this, make it a good one.
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sunilsonia

Apr 20, 2010, 5:54 PM
Platypus said:
That's great now this time tell us another Airline story regarding why sprint is so dirt cheap when they have such a great network! Why do they want to charge so little? I'll be back later to check on this, make it a good one.



Plain and simple, Sprint, although they may not bear the same market position in their respective industry as say what Southwest has in the Airline industry, both have a common denominator; they both offer value for the buck!

Southwest is sitting in the market today as one of the more profitable Airlines around domestically. They don't fly to say Mexico or Canada unfortunately but they don't nickel and dime you for your checked in bags either.

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Platypus

Apr 20, 2010, 6:08 PM
BRAVO BRAVO so sprint is not profitable so they have to be like a dirty airline in hopes of gaining a following, gotcha! đŸ¤Ŗ
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epik

Apr 20, 2010, 6:20 PM
Yeah, the airlines aren't subsidizing the cost of your flight. Sorry.
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sunilsonia

Apr 20, 2010, 5:32 PM
snowboard545 said:
here's the deal. im 29. there was a time i didnt think i needed a cell phone. then it was text messaging, then it was internet. every one of these things i never saw the value in until i used them and got used to them. now i love it. every person i help that comes and says "i dont need the internet", or " i dont use the internet on my phone" .... what they really mean is "i dont want to pay for it" you know why? if it was free they would use it, and love it. i guarantee every person that says they dont "need" the internet on the phone will be using it in the next couple years. and just like me 10 years, they said " i dont need a cell phone" at some point in their life.

here's the thing, as a s
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Platypus

Apr 20, 2010, 5:40 PM
When you make a point we will let you know. Saying "nuff said" and "you know what I'm saying" doesn't replace solid facts.
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sunilsonia

Apr 20, 2010, 5:56 PM
Platypus said:
When you make a point we will let you know. Saying "nuff said" and "you know what I'm saying" doesn't replace solid facts.


I could drive a Hammer and Chisel to your head and you still wouldn't see the point. You obviously must be one of the nearly 9.0% unemployed to not see what I've been saying but obviously you did NOTHING for your boss at work.

Bottom line: No one is going to like being overcharged for NOTHING!
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Platypus

Apr 20, 2010, 6:08 PM
That would hurt.
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WernerCD

Apr 20, 2010, 6:20 PM
Pay it, whether you want to or not.

We know better than you.

Sincerly,

Verizon Staff
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Menno

Apr 20, 2010, 7:47 PM
no it's more like:

You want a phone that requires data. Pay the data or shut up

sincerely,

People who are tired of hearing people who drive up in sports cars wearing designer cloths complaining because they can't get everything they want for free.
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WernerCD

Apr 21, 2010, 10:52 AM
Does the Env3 require data? Hardly.

Most of the phones that are out there right now do *NOT* *NOT* *NOT* require data.

Free? Why should someone be FORCED to pay for the privilege of using an Env3?

Have you touched most of the "Media Capable" phones? Block data on them... tell me what is missed.

For 95% of people... nothing.

I'll sell the *ABILITY* to get email, do light surfing, check facebook, etc... but a MAJORITY of people do NOT want that on their phone...

Those that do want it - have a smartphone.
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Menno

Apr 21, 2010, 11:22 AM
But that doesn't make the complaining and threatening to cancel valid. people can be upset about it, but continuing to bitch about it week in and week out will not change things, and will not make anyone sympathetic to your cause.

And Like I've said since day 1 of this data fiasco, if the env3 was still selling at 189/229 it wouldn't require data. heck, even at 150 it most likely would not require data. but people want every phone to be sub-100 price point. and they want 3+ mp cameras, and awesome media capabilities, and ruggedized build quality in a pretty package.

Like I said before. you can either pay a premium for the device, or a premium for the service. You can't get a premium device for bargin prices or plans anymore. I...
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WernerCD

Apr 21, 2010, 11:30 AM
*BUT*

Again... they are being forced to pay for a service they don't - in my cases - want OR need.

Just sticking to the Env3 as an example - It's a good phone. Much better than say the Intensity. There is NOTHING about phones in the middle that require data.

Hell... I know people that get the Env3, pay $10, and block data. Fools and money I guess *Shrug*

There is plenty that can be done... but people want the mid-range phones, or they are too stubborn to put money where mouth is and support someone with a better deal (AT&T or Sprint).

The sheep are SO convinced that no one else has a good enough network *Shrug*
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Menno

Apr 21, 2010, 11:47 AM
the intensity had higher reviews and fewer technical problems than the Env3 when I sold them.

Seriously, the intensities numbers only started dropping once the env3 required data. When I sold them, they outsold the env in our company (200+ stores in 12 states) and there were fewer returns.
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WernerCD

Apr 21, 2010, 11:54 AM
I had the *EXACT* opposite... I outsold Env3's by a *WIDE* margin... and it switched when Env3's started requiring data. Now I sell free phones, intensity's... and Env3s on occasion.

lol.

Can't comment on returns/problems percentages because well... I'm an authorized agent, not VZW... so I don't have to deal with that MWAHAHAHA.
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Menno

Apr 21, 2010, 11:57 AM
we were a retailer as well, but we still had the 30day test drive, and we were close to a corp store so we got all their technical problems overflow
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WernerCD

Apr 21, 2010, 12:19 PM
I'm located inside a Sam's Club. People don't know they can shop with me WITHOUT a SC card.

We don't get a lot of traffic honestly. VZW Corp store, 100 yards away, stays packed all day. I get steady traffic most days, but not OMG! traffic.

I help with everything I can... but more often than not, for technical troubles, all I can do is say "Call Tech support and put in a ticket" once the battery is taken out, some settings are check and worse case, the phone is factory-setting's.
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epik

Apr 21, 2010, 12:37 PM
I can tell you from personal experience in one of those buys corporate stores that about half the time the technical issue is resolvable without a replacement and without a ticket. Granted, I have a flash machine at my disposal, but more often than not, the customer just needs a general reset on their phone. A lot of people I work with don't like having this discussion with customers, but time and time again on my own phones, a backup/wipe/restore on my phones does wonders for my experience... even on phones people complain about the most.
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WernerCD

Apr 21, 2010, 12:39 PM
Yup.

Often problems are from someone changing a setting they don't know they changed. Or their dam kid changed. Or magically changed itself.

Fix it? naw... get a new one *rolls eyes*
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epik

Apr 21, 2010, 12:50 PM
I've had people get upset with me when I don't replace a phone. There's nothing wrong with the one they have! It's just a maintenance issue, and they'll probably be back in three months with the same "problem."

When I think back to my favorite phones, I see phones I never/rarely had issue with, but customers always complained about: Moto Q, LG Voyager, HTC VX6700, etc.

If you come to me looking for a solution to the problem, don't be too surprised when the problem is YOU and not the phone!
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epik

Apr 21, 2010, 12:01 PM
My store pulls people in need of technical service for hundreds of miles around us (many of the more rural parts of the west don't have Verizon stores). Personally, I have yet to troubleshoot an Intensity for issues since it came out. Env3, on the other hand, I probably see a few to a dozen per hour in my store.

The Env2 was about the same, too.

The Env3 has been riddled with random phone resets. We've been told in many communications that it was software-related, but no software update seemed to fix it. We noticed some were due to lose batteries, and we started putting a shim behind the battery for a more positive fit. But still, no fix.

Now, last week, we got a communication that it was a physical issue all along - the batte...
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WernerCD

Apr 21, 2010, 8:50 PM
As far as I've seen Samsung makes solid products.

I have heard of Env problems... I just don't have to deal with them 🙂 Mwahahahah 🙂
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gunny

Apr 22, 2010, 1:04 AM
You don't know what 10 20 dollars means to people. Maybe that 10 dollars they use five for gas, two for corn dogs at the ampm and three the next day for lunch off the dollar menu. You don't know what brought people to verizon in the first place, and how the new rules affect them today. Are they working, or do they only make 9 hr, how many kids do they have, or their struggles. They have a car and clothes and they will eat dinner tonight so they have money, is that what you think? I sure as hell hope not. All I say to you is stop and think, you don't know that path that people have walked.
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spinster

Apr 22, 2010, 1:29 AM
Right on, gunny!!!! I agree totally!! The economy is tough enough these days on people, and every little dollar must be carefully and wisely spent.
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gravy123

Apr 22, 2010, 12:25 PM
Your parents must have given you everything you ever wanted. You would not make comments like that if you were raised to appreciate the dollar. Just my thoughts
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Menno

Apr 22, 2010, 12:56 PM
People who were raised to appreciate the dollar are the small minority of people complaining here (most of those people have simple feature phones anyway, or smartphones if they need them)

When I worked in the store, 10:1 the people complaining about required features were people who had absolutely no idea about the value of the dollar, they were just expecting to get everything free from cell companies, or to complain until it became free so they could blow their money elseware.
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Azeron

Apr 23, 2010, 8:04 AM
STFU!!!
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easystreet

Apr 23, 2010, 9:19 AM
if you really feel that way you should pay an extra .50 per gallon for the same gas that I am pumping just because you can afford it
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LL Cool Jake

Apr 23, 2010, 11:30 AM
The guy is just making a living most verizon customer do have plenty of money, and just want everything for free. I just renewed my contract with verizon because what are the real choices? boost mobile? sprint? page plus? No thank you.
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mellowlen62

Apr 24, 2010, 7:10 AM
Ok the words were a little harsh, but maybe the point the OP was trying to make is we all have choices and we all have our priorities. I see a lot of people with "no money" buy the most ridiculous things. Although a basic cell phone is now widely considered a necessity, people continue to complain that they "need" that one with the whistles and bells but refuse to pay Verizon's "ridiculous" data charges. I have a problem with that. You don't need the 3G feature rich phone or the smartphone, you just want it. And if you want it, you have to pay to have it. And if you're going to cry about that, try your luck with another carrier. Because price wise, they're basically all trying to stay in business, and you will get what you pay for.
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Azeron

Apr 24, 2010, 4:17 PM
If he were responding to some whiny poster threatening to cancel all five of their lines (scary) then I never would have responded. But for this mofo to start a fresh thread was totally inflammatory and unnecessary.
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mellowlen62

Apr 24, 2010, 4:52 PM
Fair enough 🙂
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Sgt_Joker

Apr 24, 2010, 5:51 PM
It's really more puzzling why you are so up in arms about this nothing thread. The way you are calling this guy names, wanting to punch his face in, etc is more alarming than anything he said. You seem unstable to be so butt hurt over this.
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Azeron

Apr 25, 2010, 2:30 PM
...and yet you felt strongly enough about my response to post. Transparent to say the least. It's simple. His arrogance offends me. If you do not like my response that is a YOU problem. Your opinion sits far enough below I could give a *Bleep* less to be absolutely minuscule. Thanks for playing.
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Sgt_Joker

Apr 25, 2010, 4:31 PM
you don't know how i feel 🙄 you sure do a lot of assuming, i guess you will do anything to further reassure yourself how you see fit to judge the OP. I didn't expect you to care, just simply posting same as you. The fact that this has cause such anger because you use pre-paid service is still the alarming factor.
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Azeron

Apr 25, 2010, 11:20 PM
Get your s**t correct, dude. I don't use pre-paid service. I guess you don't spend much time here. If you had read my past postings you would know this. How about finding a short pier and taking a long walk?
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Sgt_Joker

Apr 26, 2010, 1:11 PM
The way your run around here screaming Page Plus Page Plus it's the best all my friends are on it! You should be too! What is with all the harsh words and resentment with post paid data centric users. All butt hurt over a nothing post, do you wish you could have data too? Or a better phone?
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