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Verizon Changes it's Mind - - GSM is Better

deepskyblue

Apr 17, 2010, 8:55 PM
Verizon switches standards gears for next-generation network

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9826437-37.html »

Interesting article
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Cellenator

Apr 17, 2010, 9:06 PM
Your trolling really needs work!

Article from 2007 🤣
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deepskyblue

Apr 17, 2010, 9:09 PM
well i suppose it's not a news headline.

but my experiace from previous posting is that cdma is better than gsm, and that people don't think lte is gsm.

so they need to catch up a little.
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spinster

Apr 17, 2010, 9:14 PM
experiace???? What the heck is that??
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epik

Apr 18, 2010, 5:01 PM
1) Spell checker. Even I'm not perfect, but at least I have a spell checker.

2) If LTE were GSM they would call it GSM2 or something else. LTE is NOT GSM, just as GSM is NOT TDMA, just as TDMA is NOT AMPS, and AMPS is NOT wireline telephony, and wireline telephony is NOT teletype, and teletype is NOT morse code, and more code is NOT a letter in the mail and so on and so forth. They each find their roots in the technology that came before it, but that does not make it the technology before it.

Apparently the electric fan inside my computer is a steam engine, by your argument, as that little fan owes much to its similarities to steam engines, or gasoline engines, or even the workings of a clock.

I can pick up an amateur radio right...
(continues)
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Menno

Apr 18, 2010, 5:50 PM
LTE is NOT GSM, the same way the GSM is not Analog. Just because it is the evolutionary upgrade does NOT make it the same thing.

Seriously.. creating a new topic and then BUMPING the old topic where you posted the same crap and people pointed out you were wrong then doesn't validate your point, it validates ours... Namely, that reading is a skill foreign to you.
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epik

Apr 18, 2010, 9:31 PM
Great minds think alike.
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spinster

Apr 17, 2010, 9:09 PM
This is a joke, right??
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Menno

Apr 18, 2010, 6:07 PM
Nope.. they seriously believe what they keep spamming about.

Oh, and according to deepbluesky:

-WCDMA is the name of Verizon's 3g, and is inferior to ATT's HSPA, which is basically 4g, but the 3g version
-ATT spends 2x the amount of money as Verizon on their network
-Verizon won't transition well to LTE because they don't currently have any phones that operate on more than one band
-Verizon's 4g won't actually be 4g because verizon doesn't have enough t1 lines (seriously) to take the traffic from the tower, to the internet (the internet, btw, is 5 super computers in the US.. they read it on Wikipedia)
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epik

Apr 18, 2010, 9:34 PM
He said it was six "core" computers. I was the one that clarified it, but more importantly, I've discovered that one of them is WOPR from War Games, while another is GLaDOS from the game, Portal.

I'm still trying to identify the other two core systems. I'm almost certain the third is ENCOM from Tron, but I haven't discovered any info on the fourth super core system that powers the Internet.
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Amarantamin

Apr 18, 2010, 9:40 PM
The Cerberus Network from Mass Effect.

Oh yeah.

😁
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Menno

Apr 18, 2010, 11:17 PM
Cerberus is a human faction >.< I think you mean either EDI or the Geth
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OrionsVantage

Apr 21, 2010, 2:05 PM
SkyNet is the 4th Core computer.
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Amarantamin

Apr 21, 2010, 2:15 PM
Yeah, I rethought that one.

I'd have to say the Reapers control one of the cores, but I've no clue what they named it.

Maybe as a whole, they are the core. 😳
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spinster

Apr 17, 2010, 9:12 PM
Why don't you go back to school to learn grammar and spelling??
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madmatg

Apr 17, 2010, 9:18 PM
... .... 😳 r0flc0pt0r since when did a singular with possessive not need an apostraphe?
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spinster

Apr 17, 2010, 9:26 PM
...because the APOSTROPHE in IT'S means the same as IT IS!! Is it proper to say Verizon changes IT IS mind?? No, so the apostrophe is NOT NEEDED!!
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spinster

Apr 17, 2010, 9:28 PM
In other words, the apostrophe in this case is NOT to show possession, but to provide an abbreviation.
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madmatg

Apr 18, 2010, 9:57 AM
truth 😡
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primus

Apr 19, 2010, 12:07 AM
Seriously, this has been explained to you multiple times. You didnt even read the article you linked, did you? A new tech picked by GSM carriers does not make it GSM..
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epik

Apr 20, 2010, 12:47 AM
Some people just need justification for a technology choice as if they themselves made it. Seriously, if Verizon were GSM and AT&T had become CDMA, we might as well have had the opposite conversation just now.

"I work for AT&T, and I need to justify their choice of technology, therefore GSM is better."

After all the years I've worked for Verizon, I still don't care all that much that they picked CDMA. I would have had all the same conversations with customers over the years, just with different terminology.
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CellStudent

Apr 20, 2010, 4:52 PM
You still haven't done your homework. LTE is vastly different then GSM, it's just "more" different from CDMA then it is from GSM.

But, once again, who cares? I just like the idea of having a single standard for the next generation of mobile devices.

What's this WiMAX thing, anyway? 🤭
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WernerCD

Apr 21, 2010, 10:53 AM
Not 2-5 years from now... from an unfinished spec.

LTE might be better in the long run... but WiMax2 is already being released.

*Shrug* Competition is good either way.
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Kayslay34

Apr 21, 2010, 2:18 PM
WOW you fail
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IrishCarBomb

Apr 23, 2010, 8:37 PM
Did you know current CDMA standards could just as easily have been what GSM is? GSM isn't a technology as much as it is a agency that sets the standardized protocol.

GPRS/EDGE was what they picked for their 2G standard... UMTS/WCDMA is what they picked for their 3G.... LTE is what they picked for their 4G.
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Archer Bullseye

Apr 27, 2010, 10:37 PM
I think I have found an analogy that you, and the general public can comprehend deepskyblue. 🙂

Do not think too deep into this. It is just a surface analogy to make a point about CDMA vs GSM.

CDMA = Satellite
GSM = Cable
LTE = Fios

While Fios does run thru a cable it is the next generation of technology. So its not like VZW is 'switching' to GSM. They are picking the next step in the evolutionary stage.


~Archer
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