In-contract trick to get new blackberry for cheap, possible?
My gf has a storm and can’t take it anymore, its just not for her. We just got it swapped out for a refurb so it is in new condition. What she wants in the blackberry tour, however given the price they are going for ebay minus the price her storm would go for still makes her spend around $200 after everything. I think this would work to get it for cheaper:
1. Add a line to her account = Tour cost $99 at best buy (have to wait for that deal to come back, this was the last weeks price though, it increased to $150 since then)
2. Sell her new “refurbished†Storm on eBay for around $250-$275
3. Switch the ESN’s to put the new Tour...
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And as for the best buy price.. I saw that sale, but it said for new Primary lines only, the secondary line was more expensive.
At least around here, best buy makes the price of the phone different depending on the plan that they are upgrading, so you need to make sure you read the fine print. For most upgrades or secondary lines, corp stores and other indirects can easily be the same price, or cheaper.
1) If a salesperson even gets a whiff of it, they might refuse to do it. That's because they'll get hit with a chargeback on their commission when you cancel, and some employees could also see their commission reduced overall because their money is tied into their returns, too (but that is a corporate employee, not Best Buy, to my knowledge). I've refused to do it before. My manager has backed me up on it because it's not worth our time or money, and some may see it as a type of contract fraud (even though you're willingly paying the penalty for breaking your contract).
2) If you buy a phone through an indirect, most likely they will have their own termination fee of $300 to $500 within the first 3...
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epik said:
Yeah, people do that all the time.
1) If a salesperson even gets a whiff of it, they might refuse to do it. That's because they'll get hit with a chargeback on their commission when you cancel, and some employees could also see their commission reduced overall because their money is tied into their returns, too (but that is a corporate employee, not Best Buy, to my knowledge). I've refused to do it before. My manager has backed me up on it because it's not worth our time or money, and some may see it as a type of contract fraud (even though you're willingly paying the penalty for breaking your contract).
I understand this point.. it seems unfair to the rep, yes.. but at the same time there...
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Menno said:
Most commission pay outs are either Three or Six months after the set up date. If you cancel before that time, the rep will get the chargeback.
Noted.... So to be as fair as possible to the rep I would be in and out and waste as little time as possible.
verizonplayah said:
Noted.... So to be as fair as possible to the rep I would be in and out and waste as little time as possible.
Not sure how letting a salesman under the impression he's going to see $200 on his paycheck due to setting you up and then having it not show up seems fair at all...
But hey- maybe this Professional Ethics course I'm taking is starting to rub off on me!
verizonplayah said:
I understand this point.. it seems unfair to the rep, yes.. but at the same time there is nothing "illegal" about it, it seems well understood that you can end your contract as long as you pay for the termination fee.
Although... wouldn't you still get the commission given the fact that I would wait an entire month before canceling? I feel like thats the way it should go, in fairness to the salesman.
It is unfair to the rep. Some reps, in indirect, usually make most if not all of their money in sales. Corporate reps make about 1/3 of their income in their commissions.
I don't know about indirect, but a corporate rep can get hit with a chargeback as far out as four to six m...
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I was on Voyager #5, after that one crapping out on me, I pretty much barked up VZW's backside until they multi-fru'd me into a curve, and I paid the difference in cost ($100). For giggles I submitted for the $100 mail in rebate, and they honored it!!!!
Now in your case, since you would be dealing with a storm to tour multi-fru, you may not have to pay anything, they may just do it because in all reality, they are like devices.
But my situation just got better.... 2 months later I sold my Curve and all accessories on Craigslist for $250. Used my hubby's annual upgrade and paid $150 for my tour, got the $100 rebate back on it as well, and if you followed all that correctly, by the end of...
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When I sign a contract, the agreement states that if I cancel my service, I have to pay a termination fee.
As long as I pay the fee, I followed the agreement, right?
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Since you're willing to do those things, I suggest you move your entire account to a company that I'd love to see the stock drop for, AT&T. I'd personally rather deal with customers that have ethics, and morals, and are willing to stand by their word, and honor their contracts.
I believe your take on the ETF is wrong. If you don't want to be bound by the terms of the agreement, then pay your ETF and move along. The ETF IS part of the agreed upon terms...
Breaking a contract means you've decided to terminate your contractual obligations, which you agreed to at the time of purchase. The penalty for this is a termination fee, decided upon by the company and based on your longevity of service. However, the company did not have to give you a way out. They were not obligated to leave a door unlocked. If they hadn't left the termination clause in the contract, you would have been contractually obligated to pay the remaining monthly cost you agreed to, or simply continue service. A contract in itself is a binding agreement to maintain service, not terminate it whenever you feel like it. My point is, the whole point of the contract is to maintain service. ...
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It's happened to me twice on my own account during my time with the company. You typically have to wait three months before the system won't bother with this.
So, in other words, Verizon's already thought of that.
Though I don't feel it is right to that agent that sold it to you to do that to them and make them loose that commission. That would be like your boss coming to you one day and saying, "oh, btw, we have to take X amount of money off your paycheck this month. Hope you can manage without it."
Seriously buy it from best buy do it there their employees don't work of commission and stock DvDs before they go and set your phone up, and while they are setting up this trick for you to con the system and yes thats what it is a con, i hope they muck your account and you have to go to a store to have a trained commissioned rep repair it only to be laughed at and told to go back to best buy.-
epik said:
It is unfair to the rep. Some reps, in indirect, usually make most if not all of their money in sales. Corporate reps make about 1/3 of their income in their commissions.
I don't know about indirect, but a corporate rep can get hit with a chargeback as far out as four to six months. Their commission is referred to as an advance. If the customer deactivates a new line or even returns and resets a contract upgrade, that rep gets their advanced commission pulled back. After a certain time, they're ok, but not in the time frame you're thinking of. Indirect gets hit with a charge back on their commission, too, usually within three to six months, from my understanding.
I am a f...
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