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3 years and still no iphone killer.

flip69

Mar 5, 2009, 11:50 PM
I can't believe that soon it will be 3 years when Apple/AT&T announces iphone 3GII this June and Verizon still hasn't bested the iphone. Sure my Dare is OK but the browser sucks, The Omnia and Storm require data plans. And Verizon turned down the iphone when it was offered to them. What narrow minded bean counters. The board should fire the CEO.
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epik

Mar 5, 2009, 11:51 PM
Wouldn't the iPhone require a data plan, too?
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flip69

Mar 6, 2009, 12:05 AM
Yes like I have $15 vcast plan with unlimited internet but the Verizon plans for "smartphones" require the $30 or $40 plans but neither the HTC, Storm on Omni are not even close to the iphone in performance and quality. It is dissapointing.
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justmarried

Mar 6, 2009, 12:32 AM
Your point is?
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CellMaster9000

Mar 6, 2009, 12:44 PM
justmarried said:
Your point is?

I think what he is trying to say is the IPhone 3G is the best phone on the market right now in the US, and that Verizon was dumb to turn down the IPhone in the first place.
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maverick96

Mar 6, 2009, 9:42 AM
flip69 said:
Yes like I have $15 vcast plan with unlimited internet but the Verizon plans for "smartphones" require the $30 or $40 plans but neither the HTC, Storm on Omni are not even close to the iphone in performance and quality. It is dissapointing.



I think that this is your opinion... The storm cannot be beat when it comes to email/messaging...
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evilhomer

Mar 10, 2009, 6:02 PM
maverick96 said:


I think that this is your opinion... The storm cannot be beat when it comes to email/messaging...


And that is your opinion. You think it's worth more?? 🙄

The Storm can be beat on email and messaging by any other single blackberry with a physical keyboard and a stable OS. As far as everything else, music, video, APPS, etc., it is easily POUNCED by the iPhone... Even the Zune is a better music and video player and IT has Wifi...

HAHAHAHA
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Menno

Mar 6, 2009, 3:27 PM
the iphone also requires a $30 plan, and ATT's 3g network is nowhere near as large as verizon's is.
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GoNe2heLL

Mar 6, 2009, 1:31 AM
i wish people would stop beating the iHOLE dead horse enough is enough. i'm pretty sure there is a att store close to your home
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mycool

Mar 6, 2009, 7:43 AM
Actually, I think it's more accurate to ask when is Apple going to release an iPhone that is functional enough to be considered a BBKiller?

Functionality beats Flashiness hands down. Just look at the numbers. The storm hit it's 1 million mark in the US faster than Apple hit it's 1 million mark with the iPhone, and for good reason. It's much more functional!
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cwcanty

Mar 6, 2009, 9:33 AM
Great post!
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sangyup81

Mar 6, 2009, 7:56 AM
flip69 said:
Sure my Dare is OK but the browser sucks, The Omnia and Storm require data plans.


Are you trying to suggest the iPhone 3G data plan is cheaper than the data plan for the Storm or Omnia?
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cwcanty

Mar 6, 2009, 9:35 AM
The iphone has killed itself. I would take a curve, bold, or storm over the overrated iphone.

The iphone cannot do the following:
-video capture
-type in lanscape
-no cut in paste
-run more than one app a time
-the earpiece is horrible
-iphone overloaded ATTs horrible 3G network
-no camera flash
-safari looks great, but crashes A LOT
-email is not as fast as blackberry
-no way to do a trial run of a paid app
-Verizon MADE MONEY this quarter, ATT lost money. The iphone is obviously not helping their profits very much.

Yeah, im sure blackberry and/or verizon is reeeaaaaaallly scared. The iphone is a good phone, but lacks basic functionality of other smart devices.

Chris
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maverick96

Mar 6, 2009, 9:46 AM
cwcanty said:
The iphone has killed itself. I would take a curve, bold, or storm over the overrated iphone.

The iphone cannot do the following:
-video capture
-type in lanscape
-no cut in paste
-run more than one app a time
-the earpiece is horrible
-iphone overloaded ATTs horrible 3G network
-no camera flash
-safari looks great, but crashes A LOT
-email is not as fast as blackberry
-no way to do a trial run of a paid app
-Verizon MADE MONEY this quarter, ATT lost money. The iphone is obviously not helping their profits very much.

Yeah, im sure blackberry and/or verizon is reeeaaaaaallly scared. The iphone is a good phone, but lacks basic functionality of other smart devices.

Chris



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epik

Mar 6, 2009, 9:54 AM
But, Chris, its the IPHONE... It is, therefore it's cooler. ;)
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cwcanty

Mar 6, 2009, 3:43 PM
lol...oh snap! I forgot that in my analysis
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bojmir

Mar 6, 2009, 12:09 PM
cwcanty said:
The iphone has killed itself. I would take a curve, bold, or storm over the overrated iphone.

The iphone cannot do the following:
-video capture
-type in lanscape
-no cut in paste
-run more than one app a time
-the earpiece is horrible
-iphone overloaded ATTs horrible 3G network
-no camera flash
-safari looks great, but crashes A LOT
-email is not as fast as blackberry
-no way to do a trial run of a paid app
-Verizon MADE MONEY this quarter, ATT lost money. The iphone is obviously not helping their profits very much.

Yeah, im sure blackberry and/or verizon is reeeaaaaaallly scared. The iphone is a good phone, but lacks basic functionality of other smart devices.

Chris


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cwcanty

Mar 6, 2009, 3:47 PM
Heres the post from BGR. Says that general earnings did decrease in 4th quarter.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/01/28/att-claims ... »


First things first: 1.9 million activations is nothing to scoff at. It’s a huge number, and represents AT&T and Apple’s unquestionable success in the smartphone arena. Including the 4th Quarter results, the company can claim 4.3 million total iPhone activations since the introduction of the iPhone 3G, an impressive number by anyone’s standards and a certain earmark of Apple and AT&T’s continuing dominance in the consumer market. The company also revealed, somewhat cryptically, that iPhone users generate “higher revenueâ€...
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nextel18

Mar 6, 2009, 3:51 PM
I personally don’t think Verizon right now needs to have an Iphone killer, although the Storm isn’t that bad, because they are doing a fantastic job of signing up a lot of people to their voice and data system. As customers start to demand such a device be rest assured that Verizon will meet their demands. Storm is a very good product by the way.

So everything is working well now, they don't need to bring out an Iphone killer.
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cwcanty

Mar 6, 2009, 3:55 PM
totally agreed. when youre the only company that posted a profit in the 4th quarter, I would say that getting an iphone killer is not a priority.

Its not about an iphone killer, its about data intensive phones.
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nextel18

Mar 6, 2009, 4:01 PM
Yes! Increasing revenue, and increasing customer base. What more can you ask for? The Storm and some of their other devices are doing quite. Just more data intensive phones, like you mentioned, and then Verizon will be a powerhouse when it comes to data. But it is good to see that the Storm came out. I think that phone has some promising features. I think more tools should be on it.

A few things I want to be added to the Storm;
Bigger hard drive, more memory, perhaps lighter, enhancements when it comes to the SurePress technology, and most importantly WIFI!!!
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cwcanty

Mar 6, 2009, 4:06 PM
yeah agreed on all the improvements!
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nextel18

Mar 6, 2009, 4:10 PM
I can see why they don’t add WIfi but they have to regardless. They of course wanted to boast their great network but Wifi is better/faster than 3G.
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cwcanty

Mar 6, 2009, 4:12 PM
yeah, I think it will happen eventually, but as long as people keep buying non wifi blackberries, verizon is prolly in no rush to add a wifi unit
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nextel18

Mar 6, 2009, 4:26 PM
Ok. I am going to retract my statement about that for now, because I totally disregarded the cons of that of adding Wi-Fi to a Blackberry device. Why? Lack of security. Yes, Wi-Fi is enhancing and increasing it with things like WPA2 and soon to be 802.11i but it is not safe yet.
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Menno

Mar 7, 2009, 1:09 PM
My rep said that more phones will start coming with wifi very soon.

Verizon as a company still doesn't need it to compensate for their network, but enough customers want it anyway (and are willing to pay for it) that Verizon will start requesting it on devices.

As for a wifi storm... prolly not until the storm2, or whatever they call it.
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Menno

Mar 6, 2009, 4:58 PM
Verizon likes consistancy. For as much as people here complain about the default interface, a lot of customers love that about the phone.

Apple wanted something that no other phone manuf. in the world was currently getting, on the first phone they've ever produced. They also wanted it so there could be NO discount applied to the phone or the service (including business line discounts)

Would Verizon have sold a lot of them if they accepted the iphone deal? Yes. More than likely more than what ATT has sold.

Would it have been worth it for them in the long run making that many exceptions for a phone manufactuer? Who knows. What is to prevent LG from demanding a portion of subscriptions for when people sign up for their phones no...
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maverick96

Mar 6, 2009, 9:45 AM
iphone is cool if you dont mind garble,static and multiple calls failed. Not to mention their 3G network coverage wise is a joke... I'm in Chicago and when I had the iphone I dropped so many calls it was unreal...
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epik

Mar 6, 2009, 10:25 AM
I had the Omnia and Storm, and have used the iPhone extensively (without owning it), and I'll take my BB Curve (or the Niagara when its out) any day.
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nextel18

Mar 6, 2009, 12:15 PM
Why do they want an Iphone killer right now (Storm is a pretty good device by the way) if they can still continue to use their current device portfolio to attract more users and revenue? That is how business works. Why do you think companies release lets say REV O data cards even though REV A is starting to become rolled out? Just how it works.
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texaswireless

Mar 6, 2009, 2:02 PM
Did you lose your computer for 4 months? Welcome back.
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nextel18

Mar 6, 2009, 2:08 PM
No. just busy doing other things. Thanks TX hows business?
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texaswireless

Mar 6, 2009, 2:21 PM
Getting ready to open Verizon stores in Dallas/Ft. Worth. Going crazy.
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nextel18

Mar 6, 2009, 2:32 PM
Nice nice. People would rather have a cell than a home. 🤣
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Menno

Mar 7, 2009, 1:06 PM
People want both, but unlike a home, you can't get a cell for no money down and only pay on the interest of what you owe for 10 years.
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Cellphonejocky

Mar 6, 2009, 2:24 PM
"Why do you think companies release lets say REV O data cards even though REV A is starting to become rolled out? Just how it works."

100% of Verizons EVDO network is Rev A.

Been like this sense last year.
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nextel18

Mar 6, 2009, 2:37 PM
You didn’t get my point.
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MidnightDT

Mar 6, 2009, 2:41 PM
sorry to break it to you but the iphone requires a 30$ data plan as well.
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Menno

Mar 6, 2009, 3:24 PM
The Iphone requires a data plan. A "iphone killer " without a data plan is not an iphone killer.

So the storm and the Omnia are the competitors to the iphone, not the dare (as great as that phone is), or the versa (as awesome as that is, and it supports flash)
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CellStudent

Mar 7, 2009, 9:12 PM
I really don't care much for the phonearena crowd, mostly because they seem like a bunch of Apple hacks that like to take digs at every other handset and manufacturer out there, but I thought I would pull up this tasty tidbit from the iPhan squeal-base:


iPhone 3G: rated 8 out of 10-

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Apple-iPhone-3G-Revi ... »

LG Versa: rated 9 out of 10-

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/LG-Versa-Review-revi ... »

For regular folks like me that don't need to view email attachments and aren't interested in iFart Apps and other 3rd party hoopla- the only thing missing from Versa is a multi-touch capacitative screen. I'll be getting a Versa, thank you very much!
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dalily21

Mar 7, 2009, 10:23 PM
"Ya Rly" 😁
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andy2373

Mar 9, 2009, 3:29 PM
Who cares. The iPhone is for douchebags & soccer moms. 😛
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wrightN

Mar 9, 2009, 5:08 PM
exactly. people who inhale their own farts lol
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mycool

Mar 12, 2009, 9:50 AM
Actually, the iPhone does have its place. As much as I love my BlackBerry, I won't deny Apple it's triumph in an advanced web browser and the AppStore.

Though, they won't be able to toute those as unique anymore. All the smartphone makers are launching application store fronts...

And, even dumbphones have as good as, if not better, web browsers now...

Apple will always have it's mac fanbase though, so they'll always be more prone to get an iPhone.
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tlk2me

Mar 11, 2009, 3:04 AM
Everybody including the "powers that be" need to get over it. There will NEVER be an IPhone killer. Never. It was a one shot one of a kind deal and trying to build the better version will not happen. It will have to be something so totally different that it will take the world by storm. Not just another touch screen. Pumping out all these phones with similar qualities just makes it hard for people who aren't suckered in to the craze to find a decent handset. Touchscreens are great, but COME ON....not everyphone has to be that. No everybody wants something that "looks just like an iphone". I know it's hard to believe but I just know it's true....come guys am I right?
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mellowlen62

Mar 11, 2009, 8:18 PM
You are right. I am not a fan of touchscreen AT ALL. I mean, it's nice on my Palm Centro but I have an actual keypad also. Wouldn't go to all touch if you paid me. If that were the only option, I'd go back to a basic flip.
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jarmstrong

Mar 12, 2009, 7:44 AM
I agree. i like having a key pad. touch screen is nice, but i cant always look at my phone while i am typing a message, and keys make it much easer to use the phone with out looking at it. I had a Palm for awhile, and love it. Just cant afford to replace it right now.
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jaimic

Mar 12, 2009, 9:56 PM
Three years? I'm not sure if someone mentioned this already, but the i-phone came out late June of 2007. By my math, that's not even 2 years.

But, I do agree with most here; Blackberry phones are more functional for everyday life than the i-phone.

J
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archie2626

Mar 23, 2009, 8:10 PM
Not sure if/when this is going to launch but this would be something so revolutionary that it would be considered an iphone-killer.

http://www.nokia.com/A4852062 »
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epik

Mar 24, 2009, 8:50 AM
I disagree.

1) Part of iPhone's impressiveness is in its simplicity.

2) By the time a device like this were to come into existence, we could very likely have moved past the traditional phone design anyway. The iPhone as we know it would have been killed a long time ago simply by being an old design and/or the same generic device as everything else.

Remember how revolutionary the RAZR was? Who hasn't surpassed and improved on that design by now? RAZR is almost synonymous with basic phone design now. Some day, the iPhone as we understand it will be in the same category.
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