hey man wow. you dont know me. i had to pay deposit on sprint. no deposit on at&t. i talk vzw and they ask same deposit as sprint so you wrong man. 250. you dont know me. im in computer sales man. you judge me and dont know nuttin. you just mad razr 2

Sprint Ahead said:
hey man wow. you dont know me. i had to pay deposit on sprint. no deposit on at&t. i talk vzw and they ask same deposit as sprint so you wrong man. 250. you dont know me. im in computer sales man. you judge me and dont know nuttin. you just mad razr 2

PLease stop posting here your ridiculous and ignorant... And thats all I need to know about you.

So what do you have to say about out president? He can't speak LOL

You probably voted for the idiot!

Sprint Ahead said:
hey man wow. you dont know me. i had to pay deposit on sprint. no deposit on at&t. i talk vzw and they ask same deposit as sprint so you wrong man. 250. you dont know me. im in computer sales man. you judge me and dont know nuttin. you just mad razr 2

first


your english is hilarious and I can see why your going with the lesser than companies. I am glad you did, because I dont want trash such as yourself sharing my network

also, we are getting the razr2.....everyone is, just like razr 1.....and razr are junk, much like your mobile home.

Ray trying to disguise himself...

that is so possible!! LMAO He will stoop to any level just to get attention!

SprintAhead, your profile stated you were a Sprint Lead, in Atlanta GA. earlier. 🤨

It's Ray Carroll.

Does Verizon even offer a $250 deposit? I've never seen one.

I guess it's possible if you're trying to set up two lines. Never mind.

By computer sales, do you mean you work at Best Buy, or circuit city? Maybe the electronics dept at Walmart?

Do you by any chance sell computers for hooked on phonics?

learn to write lol
its hard to understand you 🙂

I used to sell Verizon and Sprint. The only time I ever sold Sprint was if Verizon's credit check came back with a deposit. $400 deposit with Verizon? No problem. Let's get you set up on a Sprint account with no deposit!

If you can't get a phone with VZW, you're probably not going to with any major carrier? 🙄 That's complete BS.

chainmail311 said:
Well said, minus the fact that you're a racist and self righteous fool.

VZW sucks. They train their employees to be pretentious butt clowns. (You're post is a case in point.)

And if you knew anything about anything, you would realize that the credit check for VZW and AT&T is about the same. You can't get a phone with VZW, you're probably not going to with any major carrier.

I know, because I work for Sprint and T-Mobile. If you can't pass credit with them, Amp'd or Alltel, or some other lesser known carrier MIGHT take you.

Yeahhh... considering that Wfine runs his own store, I think he may possibly know what he's talkin' about.

You? I'm not so sure. 🙄

how could i be wrong? i'm just giving facts. deposit on t-mobile? you're gonna get one on sprint too, but not alltel, maybe. I also worked at Best Buy. The bad credit people usually went to amp'd.

Thanks Shock,

Actually I own 2 stores 😎

You work for T Mobile and Sprint, and your an expert on vzw and att credit checks?

worked at best buy too buddy.

chainmail311 said:
worked at best buy too buddy.

My condolences. ☹️

yeah, ask me what the employee discount is...

I'm guessin' somethin' hilarious, like 10%...

nope. it's 5% above cost. So, networking cables, or any accessories. We pay 5% more than best buy corp pays for it. Firewire cables: 2 dollars. MAJOR benefit for working at Best Buy. I wouldn't buy 90% of the stuff in the store for the price they ask. (I shop online, however.) but with that employee discount, It's lovely.

That's not too bad, then. But do they pay you guys commission, at least? Otherwise, it sounds like a thankless 10 bucks an hour -type job.

I got $12. No commission, but then again, I didn't sell too much. I worked warehouse, and set merch up. I miss it. The Best Buy where I live now is a branch crappy store, and overhired, so they didn't care about me. Wish I was back in DC.

I don't know if I would consider that (best buy employment) to be the credentials of an expert, but if you think you are, go ahead chief.

ahem. Did i proclaim being an expert? nope. Am I pointing out that I've had a decent amount of experience working for more than just a single carrier? yup.

eat a pie. 😳

Hey, here's an idea...build up some credit before you go into a contractional obligation with a wireless carrier.

eternalcynic said:
Hey, here's an idea...build up some credit before you go into a contractional obligation with a wireless carrier.

Or switch to prepay. Everyone is offered two options. If your credit is poor or doesn't exist then prepay and impulse is an option for you while you work towards better credit.

chainmail311 said:
And if you knew anything about anything, you would realize that the credit check for VZW and AT&T is about the same. You can't get a phone with VZW, you're probably not going to with any major carrier.

🤣 I feel sorry that you overstepped your knowledge base on this one chainmail311. You are intact wrong. I could tell you how I know but I do not think it would make a difference for you.

I'm not sure what a "butt clown" is... but we are actually trained to not cut down the competition. We are trained to be respectful and professional. If you had another kind of experience with a verizon employee then I apologize and ask you to not judge us based off of that experience because it truly doesn't represent our company. There are times when another carrier will better fit your needs and in those times we tell you to go with what is right for YOU instead of us.

Go work for an agent store

base pay, plus commission, and I can triple commission.

no thanks. i'll stay here.

Base pay: Check
Commission: Check
Multipliers: Check
Great benefits: Check
College tuition: Check
Match up to 6% of your paycheck to a 401K: Check
A company that did more retail netadds in 2 days then one of its 'close' challengers did in 1 qtr: Check*

Maybe the grass is greener on the other side of the fence chainmail311?


*I may have read that wrong so do not quote me on it 😁

agent stores not hiring in area: check.

any agent store worth working at: no check.

Plus, I'm only a part timer for now. I work construction now. Pays the bills.

Eastern Idaho sucks for good jobs.

chainmail311 said:
base pay, plus commission, and I can triple commission.

no thanks. i'll stay here.

.... is there some reason you don't think Verizon does the same for their company?

Great hourly wage
Great Commission
Commission Multipliers
Great Employee Benefits
Great Insurance
Great Training
Great Company
Great Product

chainmail311 said:
I like how people associate a network with the people that join it.

Pretentious retards. I guess all the leftover retards WORK for Verizon instead.

Go cripple a phone.

You... unknowingly.... just proved your own point. You reflect the companies you work for both with your knowledge *pause* and your attitude.

Has Sprint launched Rev A yet? If so how many cities are covered (if you know).

Im not trying to strat anything, I honestly dont know because I dont follow Sprint.

REV A...yes. Here is the comparison...

Sprint Rev A:
10,000 cities
300,000 sq miles

VZW Rev A:
6,5000 cities
230,000 sq miles

Cool, thanks, just an FYI from the VZW side, they are telling us that the entire EVDO coverage area nationwide should be REV A by the end of the year.

same with sprint they are both rushing to get this done. For sprint they want to launch qchat.

They completed that already. It was posted to infocenter on 6/22/07


😁

and REV A in Airports

Sprint has Rev A in 927 Airports.
Verizon has Rev A in 613 Airports.

Sprint has Rev 0 in 1069 Airports.
Verizon has Rev 0 in 871 Airports.

Basically Sprint has Rev A in more areas than VZW has Rev 0.

Cool, thanks!

Mysterio693 said:
REV A...yes. Here is the comparison...

Sprint Rev A:
10,000 cities
300,000 sq miles

VZW Rev A:
6,5000 cities
230,000 sq miles

bull....thats not true at all. link it ....Verizon has allowed SPRINT to roam off their data networks for years now....not the other way around.

omg I am so tired of false info.
Here is the truth! Alltel is the only company that has a VDO roaming agrement with sprint. Verizon has a 1xrtt data roaming with verizon. They both allow sharing. Alltel 1xrtt and evdo verizon 1xrtt only!!!

Got it!

That is absolutely correct as well as mysterio;s coverage numbers. Sorry to break it to you guys but Sprint IS beating vzw in the data field...

No, that is incorrect. Sprint and VZW started an EVDO roaming agreement either late last year or early this year. It might not have been announced on sprint's end, but it was on the VZW end. VZW had to get softwear updates for a few of its phones to be able to support the authentication required for the roaming..

As for mysterio's numbers, I would like to know where they are coming from because those numbers for VZW dont match VZW internal documents so it seems like he is pulling numbers out of nowhere and trying to claim them as facts.

Sorry to say you are wrong, vzw and Sprint do not roam off each other's EVDO signal... it pretty straight forward. 1XRTT yes, EV-DO no.

Sprints network can not hold a candle to verizon, there indoor coverage sucks! If you roam to much you'll get cut off so don't act like you can roam endlessly on verizon because you can't! The over all capacity of Sprint is much less than verizon, sprint needs all the massive roaming agreements because their native coverage is pathetic. They have the worse customers service in the industry and still leading with highest churn.

verizon uses PCS also on 50% of their network and all future towers will be 1900 as there is no spectrum left in 800. So verison sucks as bad a sprint as you put it with 50& of their coverage! Their native coverage is the same if not a little bigger then verizon. Your forget sprint built their from the ground up. Verizon bought theirs that others built! Except inthe north east were they started in! Yes Sprints CS sucks.

Verizon Wireless didnt "start" anywhere. Verizon Wireless was a buy out of several companies. There is no starting company, Vodafone and VZ started a new company, bought a bunch of other companies and merged those into one wireless company. This happen back in 2000, since then every tower on the VZW network has been upgraded, so the only part of the orginal towers that would be left might be the pole..

As for the 800/1900 part, that is based entirely on what spectrum VZW has in the area. If they have the 800 spectrum the towers run 800, if they have 1900 they run 1900, if they have both they run both.

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I just thought of this: If you learn everything there is to konw about how cell towers work and how to repair and upgrade them, you would always have a job.

Cellenator said:
Sprints network can not hold a candle to verizon, there indoor coverage sucks!

If you roam to much you'll get cut off so don't act like you can roam endlessly on verizon because you can't!

The over all capacity of Sprint is much less than verizon, sprint needs all the massive roaming agreements because their native coverage is pathetic.

They have the worse customers service in the industry and still leading with highest churn.

All true. I used to have Sprint, and I left them, primarily over their inconsistent and crappy indoors reception.

I have never regretted the decision. 😎

I know you know what your talking about so it surprises me that you would make a blanket statement like that. Maybe in your area they use 800 and you get great indoor reception. But other areas that only use 1900 verizon is jsut a s bad as sprint indoors!

Not necessarily... there are other ways to get good building/wall penetration than using the 800 MHz band... such as having more towers in an area, so that the average tower is closer to you.

In any case, VZW will always have more 800 MHz towers than Sprint does, since the number of 800 MHz towers Sprint has is zero.

Let's just say that, whichever way they do it, indoors reception has never been an issue for me with VZW, even when traveling. But with Sprint, it definitely was. ☹️

true on parts. However I am sure verizon does not put up a tower just to penetrate a building. It would not be cost effective.

No, they put up towers for capacity and coverage reasons. So the good building penetration comes, in part, from having good capacity and coverage in an area, i.e. a lot of towers (tho' 800 Mhz sure helps too).

Which, now that you bring it up, was another beef I had with Sprint. While it didn't happen too often (and certainly not as often as it did to some of my friends on ATT/Cingular), I would get the occasional 'network too busy' -type messages when I was with Sprint. ☹️

I think I've seen maybe one of those, ever, on VZW.

In-building penetration is very hard for almost every spectrum band out there but obviously as you go further up in the spectrum range the more difficult it becomes and then the carrier must do something to allow for a better in-door and overall experience for the customer. The real thing is for the tower companies in conjunction with the carriers to build smart antennas or little antennas on the roof of certain buildings that allow for that kind of construction. It is more difficult to just put regular towers on next to each other for a few reasons than put on those smart antennas or antennas on buildings; 1. The cost is very expensive to construct and maintain that tower and 2. It can take a lot of time from the plans in place to the actua...
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Very crucial. ROIC is very important to this industry and the market will determine whether there will be more towers. Problem is, it takes a long time and it is very expensive to deploy such a thing. New technologies such as smart antennas would help. Other things like MMDS or Wimax would help also. Adding more t1s would too. Just it is an issue to do that. In a few places near where I live I saw 3 Verizon towers right next to each other.

Actually, the Sprint network is inferior in several ways. With regard to Rev-A technology, and data networks in general, Sprint has made the same mistake that AT&T and others made by mixing their voice and data users all together. The result is that voice and data users crowd each other out and compete for network space, which is limited at best on Sprint's network (there's a reason they posted a net loss of 400,000 subscribers in the busiest quarter of 2006). In contrast, Verizon's network operates on a split pipeline where voice and data users are kept separate from each other, allowing different kinds of customers to use different types of features with ease and efficiency. The Wall Street Journal had a great article two weeks ago esp...
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Good Info!!

Not to mention they can't figure out how to turn a profit anymore.

Ever seen Idiocracy? Instead of the House of Representatives, the government has the House of Representin'.

I don't know which is worse you understanding it or him tyoing it. J/K

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He reminds me of a guy who comes into my store fairly often. This VERY white and fairly fat kid comes in wearing the baggiest pants youve ever seen, a huge puffy brightly colored coat, and, I s**t you not, a GOLD CHAIN WITH A BIG $$ HANGING ON IT. He talks like that too. We call him not-so-slim shady.

WOOOW you all need to calm the F*c* down. jesus. who gives a shi* that this kid talks like that. you are all just fat middle aged people who need to GET A LIFE and stop obssessing about this stuff:

"OH EM GEE MY CARRIER IS LIKE SO MUCH BATTER THAN YOURS. most people cant even pass the credit check! OMG MOTOROLA SUX!"

JESUS H GET A DAMN LIFE. there is more to life then fu**ing CELL PHONES. oh and sorry i didnt mean to ruin your day of FUN on the computer looking at cell phones and laughing like a fu**king crazy person at how people have sprint or att. and DONT HATE THAT YOU OLD GEEKS ARENT MAD CHILL ANYMORE AND DONT KNOW ANY OF OUR LINGO. and dont be RACIST. THEYRE IS NOT A CERTAIN LANGUAGE FOR BLACK PEOPLE. and no im...
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Repeatedly using the "f" word. That is great values. Also it is a sign of a limited vocabulary. Sorry, I understand using "some" slang, but not when conducting business. Also, these kids are using this on resumes and then wondering why they don't get the job.

I had a kid come up to my counter and went to grab a phone. Before he could touch the phone I insisted he had to use some antibacterial hand cleaner before he touched anything.

"Why dat nigga?"

"First of all don't use that term around me. Second, you can up to this counter with your hand down your pants holding your croch. Before you touch anything, you need to sanitize your hands."

I still do not understand the wearing of shorts that are 6 inches to big and then ho...
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GOOOD STORY BUD!
ur hilarious. and im sure that the guy wearing those pants thought ur your cheap clothes with absoulutely no style were hot too. and i am truely sorry that u dont like my values. how will i sleep.

LOL...cheap clothes. HAHA. Those 1.99 shorts that are too big is being cheap. One thing I've noticed is dress code for VZW requires us to wear something nice. My Rockports cost more then this guys entire outfit...lol.

calm down, you are the only one in this thread flipping out and by the way i have no clue what you are talking about, read the thread you responded to. In fact we are not even talking about the whole my carrier is better than you carrier garbge you just ranted about. We are discussing the way that thread was written. pretty sure your rant was posted off the wrong person

I just caught that post today. I'll be watching the news for a crazy white guy with clothes 5 sizes too big for him beating up... no wait... getting his a$$ kicked by a wireless employee. 🤣

malibu_377 said:
you know I am very glad that he is with sprint & AT&T because if I had to deal with customers like that I would quit my job 😕 !! HA HA no but wait the best part of it all is that he said he works in computers 🤣 , yet this is how he types. Hmm... You know people like that make for cheap entertainment 😉 !

... and hotlines accounts.

hotlined***

You are correct.

She spent too much money on it? Or he threw it at her?

🤣 i think he threw it at her and broke her right hip.

That'll do it.

sprint rep here. no i am not going to make some general hating remarks about verizon and their bt or ui. but i tried reading some post from verizon to see what was discussed here. and damn u verizon rep/customers are worthless.
a whole post making fun of a guy and generalizing the hell out of ppl. u geeks that write all this hatin' post need to stop. i am pretty sure the rest of verizon's rep/customers arent as dim witted as you all. 😁

umm.. so what you just wrote makes you any better than us how?

well my comments are based on reading all this stupid post replies from the ppl hatin', not from one guy making one comment and me generalizing his whole life with just that. i dont demean ppl based on their carrier of choice thats the silliest crap ever. i admitted to the fact that i understand most verizon rep/custs arent dweebs like you all. that doesnt make me better that than any normal person but it does compared to the jerks i have seen here.

Yeah. Most jerky people think that they know it all, but really don't.

Have you ever been to an online forum before..............?

🤣

cwcanty said:
thanks for bringing this ridiculous thread back...

You don't think anyone else made the points you just made...cmon now.

Chris

Thanks for making a rediculous arguement.

I'm reading the threads from the top of the page to the bottom... if it's a thread that was dead then I apologize for ruining your day... maybe next time you should just control your reading abilities and skip to a better thread.

Sorry for ruining your life.

apology accepted. You didnt ruin my day. Im just asking you to be smart with your posts. You provided no new info to an already dead thread.

My question to you would be why? Sorry if my tone is a little harsh, but this forum is getting bogged down with nonsense and threads like this are a big part of it.

Now that I can understand. I actually didn't realize how long the thread was... and posted it in the wrong place. I assumed all the threads were going to be exactly like this - petty. I hadn't realized how long... or how out of place the thread was until afterwards. It's not something I plan on dwelling on after this.

SystemShock said:

jskinvest said:
This is why I decided not to move to Sprint:

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug20 ... »

Good (and SCARY) article. Lousy Sprint CS strikes again!!! 😳

I wonder how Sprint expects to make a comeback via WiMax, when they can't even execute at the most basic level... i.e. billing and CS. That's the kind of stuff that help kill off Amp'd. ☹️

PS- I used to have Sprint, but dumped them. Reading that Business Week article makes me xtra glad I did when I did. 😲