From Verizon to Cingular back to Verizon
I was having a problem receiving unwanted spam text messenges(still getting by the way) I have been getting on my Verizon cell phone.
So I went down to my local Cingular store(still keeping my Verizon service) and I bought theto Moto V551 camera phone. I kept hearing how "great" GSM was supposed to be. Well let me tell you it's NOT!
1) During a phone conversation, all of a sudden all I would hear is garble for a few words. I did not like that!
2) Then I had to punch in my local area code to make a phone call, because I was told I was using a ATT wireless tower.
3) I was always having to adjust the volume in the ear piece when I was having a phone conversation.
4) On the Moto V551, it was almost impossible to view the...
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So I went down to my local Cingular store(still keeping my Verizon service) and I bought theto Moto V551 camera phone. I kept hearing how "great" GSM was supposed to be. Well let me tell you it's NOT!
1) During a phone conversation, all of a sudden all I would hear is garble for a few words. I did not like that!
2) Then I had to punch in my local area code to make a phone call, because I was told I was using a ATT wireless tower.
3) I was always having to adjust the volume in the ear piece when I was having a phone conversation.
4) On the Moto V551, it was almost impossible to view the...
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Yeah. Reason #1 (plus some dropped calls and bad billing/CS experiences) were why some of my friends ditched Cingular/ATTW too. Reason #4 seems like something that could happen with any cell phone, though.
Glad you found a carrier you like. 🙂
Glad you found a carrier you like. 🙂
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most of the customers i have been getting that port their number have been from cingular. ive been hearing more and more complaints about cingular as the time goes on.
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Same here, about 85% of ports to VZW at my store have been from Cingular, the biggest reason is lack of coverage since the change to GSM and also some complain about poor customer service.
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Plus...let's just be honest...GSM sound quality just sucks..my roommate just got a T-mobile phone after having had Sprint...and the difference between talking to him now as compared to his CDMA service is amazing...How can anyone stand it?
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lol..have you seen tmoble's coverage map?!?!?!? I wonder how they stay in buisness..... 2, wtf are you using your phone at? Im in Sacramento, on the old ATTWS plan and nokia phone, I get GREAT service. Not sure if its still a prob with Motorola phones....i used to have the MPX200....great features, HORRIBLE battery life and reception. Went to a Nokia phone...night and day difference. GSM doesnt suck unless your in a non-covered area. Look at Cingulars coverage map...its huge too!
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jcrow78 said:
Plus...let's just be honest...GSM sound quality just sucks..my roommate just got a T-mobile phone after having had Sprint...and the difference between talking to him now as compared to his CDMA service is amazing...How can anyone stand it?
Hm... from what I've read, I don't think there's anything in GSM that would inherently and automatically make it sound terrible. Are you sure its not other factors?
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It realy does make a diff from phone to phone. You'd think by now phone manufacture's would have to folow a guideline, that the phone they make has to be able to pull in a certain amout of signal. I had the MPX200...HORRIBLE reception...new Nokis 3100..... AWESOME reception. Night and day difference.
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The motorola mpx 220 is no longer sold and that is why. It will nto be back in Cingular's lineup and T-moble will not carry it either.
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I can only assume that the MPX220 was the same. Too bad too...great features.
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Maybe at cs but, in the retail store the Mpx220 will be back when motorola fixes all it's issues.
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Buckock said:
It realy does make a diff from phone to phone. You'd think by now phone manufacture's would have to folow a guideline, that the phone they make has to be able to pull in a certain amout of signal. I had the MPX200...HORRIBLE reception...new Nokis 3100..... AWESOME reception. Night and day difference.
I second your opinion. We too have 3120's and a 6010 and flawless service here in Citrus Heights (near Sacramento; Buckock already knows this). Haven't come across a place it doesn't work yet, despite the horror stories I used to hear. My only regret leaving Verizon was their fantastic customer service, and I will agree that when I had Verizon for years I heard way too many complaints about Cingu...
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yeah, kinda a shame for all companies....the carriers dont make the phones. The main thing is how your treated and the resolution about the phone your having problems with.
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After 5 years of selling wireless..for GSM and CDMA carriers I can tell you there is a SOUND quality difference...not a service and reception difference..but the sound quality is superior with CDMA networks...I've tried numerous GSM phones and It's always the same...more interference and a general fuzzyness to the voice
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Europe uses GSM because its government regulatory bodies TOLD it to. They wanted all of Europe on one standard technology.
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BetterThanJake said:
Europe uses GSM because its government regulatory bodies TOLD it to. They wanted all of Europe on one standard technology.
Well that explains why 10% of gsm countries have it. So why did the rest of the world adopt gsm?
Europe is small potatoes when looking at the entire gsm community. In reality, there are about the same amount of CDMA subscribers as there are GSM users in Europe alone.
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Al_Swearengen said:BetterThanJake said:
Europe uses GSM because its government regulatory bodies TOLD it to. They wanted all of Europe on one standard technology.
Well that explains why 10% of gsm countries have it. So why did the rest of the world adopt gsm?
Europe is small potatoes when looking at the entire gsm community. In reality, there are about the same amount of CDMA subscribers as there are GSM users in Europe alone.
10%? Might wanna recheck your figures there Phoenix... oops, I mean Al. There seems to be around 500 million GSM subscribers in Europe these days, or at least one-third of the world total:
The total number of GSM subscribers exceeded 500 mill ...
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BetterThanJake said:...Al_Swearengen said:BetterThanJake said:
Europe uses GSM because its government regulatory bodies TOLD it to. They wanted all of Europe on one standard technology.
Well that explains why 10% of gsm countries have it. So why did the rest of the world adopt gsm?
Europe is small potatoes when looking at the entire gsm community. In reality, there are about the same amount of CDMA subscribers as there are GSM users in Europe alone.
10%? Might wanna recheck your figures there Phoenix... oops, I mean Al. There seems to be around 500 million GSM subscribers in Europe these days, or at least one-third of the world total:
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Al_Swearengen said:
According to the gsmworld website, Europe has 486 million as of Q4. Asia has 448 million. More than the 10% that I was saying
Glad you agree. Didn't want to correct you, but you were off by so much (Europe is actually 35-40% of world GSM users) that it beared stating.
but the point is still valid. Even if you take away all of Europes subscribers, gsm still has 5 times as many subscribers.
Mm... no. Don't hate me, but according to gsmworld, there's currently 1.3 billion GSM subscribers. Take away Europe's 500 million, that leaves 800 million. Currently there's about 250 million CDMA subscribers worldwide, so its more like 3 times as many, not 5.
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Sorry to hear you had those problems. I would say the cause of the problem is the phone itself.
Motorola has been hit and miss lately with many RF problems on their handset's antennas. Also, you are comparing a higher end LG CDMA phone to a midrange moto. That particular LG is one of the best rated phones that verizon has ever released and you replaced it with a problematic motorola.
The LG also has a 262,000 color screen and the moto has a 65,000 color screen. Huge difference in the light. Sorry you had voice quality problems, but I would also blame that on the phone's RF problem. Get a nokia or a sony and you'll hear a huge difference in voice quality. GSM typically has better voice quality than cdma. Especially in good coverage areas....
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Motorola has been hit and miss lately with many RF problems on their handset's antennas. Also, you are comparing a higher end LG CDMA phone to a midrange moto. That particular LG is one of the best rated phones that verizon has ever released and you replaced it with a problematic motorola.
The LG also has a 262,000 color screen and the moto has a 65,000 color screen. Huge difference in the light. Sorry you had voice quality problems, but I would also blame that on the phone's RF problem. Get a nokia or a sony and you'll hear a huge difference in voice quality. GSM typically has better voice quality than cdma. Especially in good coverage areas....
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Al_Swearengen said:
The Sony Ericsson z500a or the Samsung p207 would have been a better choice.
not having a phone at all would have been a better choice than cingular. 🤣 ..sorry, had to.
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Dam 85 perccent u have been bashing Cingular for a long time aren't u tired.
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People like him amuse me. Just throwing numbers out, hoping it sounds good. He is probably in an area that is vzw and cing. populated. Didnt Cingulars churn go down?
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Cingular's churn is dropping. Cingular is focused on improving its customer service a lot of people have been forced out.
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85percent said:Al_Swearengen said:
The Sony Ericsson z500a or the Samsung p207 would have been a better choice.
not having a phone at all would have been a better choice than cingular. 🤣 ..sorry, had to.
You'd have to spend more money at verizon to get a phone that compares to those cingular phones. 😕
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Your problems were mostly equipment related and have nothing 2 do with Cingular being GSM and Verizon being CDMA. the motorola v551 has a sepaker isse that creates a warble warble that is not GSM technology that is a bad phone. And soon the whole country will be on ten digit dialing. You will have to start dialing with the area code soon anyway.
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I would like to say that not all GSM is that bad, T-Mobile's does not have those problems. I have experienced T-Mobile, Cingular and Verizon. I wouldn't take a Cingular plan if it was free.
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