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May 7th Engadget: Verizon IPHONE detailed leaks intensify.

Scott Herman

May 7, 2010, 6:19 PM
It's getting so close the IPHONE is near!


http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-ch ... »

Verizon IPHONE chatter is getting harder (than usual) to ignore
By Chris Ziegler posted May 7th 2010 3:49PM

FeatureAlright, stop us if you've heard this one before -- but seriously, we've noticed an uptick on the tip lines here at Engadget in the last couple weeks that's becoming difficult to ignore. It's one thing to say "hey, the IPHONE is launching on Verizon," but we're noticing a particular confluence of facts that has us intrigued: it'll drop sometime in Summer, possibly in concert with the announcement that Verizon's first commercial LTE networks have gone live, and -- tread carefull...
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Archer Bullseye

May 7, 2010, 6:52 PM
Scott.. For every article that says the phone is coming or coming soon. I can find one that says it is not.

Majority of Verizon customers want iPhone, but analyst says not this yearSam Diaz493 wordsThu May 6, 12:00 AM ETZDnet Blog Here’s a headline for you: If Verizon offered an iPhone, more than half of its subscribers would likely buy one. A survey conducted by ChangeWave Research found that 54 percent of Verizon’s existing customers would be either very likely or somewhat likely to dump their existing device and buy an iPhone. Until last week, I was one of them. But I refused to wait any longer - and for those 54 percent of you, I can only say: Don’t hold your breath.Brian Marshall, an analyst with BroadPoint AmTech...
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Scott Herman

May 7, 2010, 7:06 PM
But Brian Marshall is constantly wrong.

I know it's coming just wait till WWDC10 June 7, the IPHONE is near.

This article is from Engadget! Posted Today!

Read it guys the 4G IPHONE will be here sooner than you think.
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Archer Bullseye

May 7, 2010, 7:14 PM
I just think its foolish to wait for a phone that as the article says could be atleast another year off...

But to each his own. 🙂 What makes the iPhone better then let's say the droid incredible?
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Jayshmay

May 7, 2010, 9:41 PM
I'd be really, really !!curious!! what his answer would be as to what is better about the iphone than the Incredible.
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Scott Herman

May 8, 2010, 1:05 AM
It's just an exciting article about the IPHONE and verizon. I don't care about the Incredible or down those who like it. I would just like the IPHONE to be on verizon.
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Azeron

May 8, 2010, 11:09 AM
It does not matter if he, you or I would choose the iphone over the Droid Incredible. What does matter is that the iphone is capable of pulling subscribers in spite of AT&T's poor network reputation. This is significant.
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KriisCDW

May 8, 2010, 7:24 PM
That's what makes it better. Magic.

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And ponies.
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KriisCDW

May 8, 2010, 7:23 PM
* Warning: "I know" is translated into "I *REALLYREALLYREALLY* want it to come, but have absolutely nothing based in reality to prove that it's coming. *BUT* Since I want it bad enough, it'll happen. Like it happened 4 years ago. and 3 years ago. and 2 years ago...
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Jayshmay

May 7, 2010, 9:30 PM
No need for the stupid zombie iphone! My Moto Droid has twice the resolution of the iphones screen. Vzn has the HTC Incredible, they don't need the iphone!
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iamajim

May 7, 2010, 10:03 PM
Scotty Scotty Scotty-what are we gonna do with you; 'ya know we all love 'ya. We'd all love to see you get your IPHONE on Big Red. Personally I don't see me getting one, I just love choices and if Vz gets the IPHONE I think all of those other carriers can bend over and kiss their collective a$$es goodbye 'cuz there would be no reason to settle for crappy service/coverage when you could conceivably get almost any kind of phone you wanted (SE and Nokia are noticeably absent). I't be murder, pure and simple. Hell, maybe even my brother would ditch ATT/crApple for Vz/crApple hahaha.
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Jayshmay

May 7, 2010, 10:06 PM
Ha, that "crApple" stuff is fiunny!!!
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Scott Herman

May 8, 2010, 1:07 AM
I appreciate that you like your Droid. I just want the IPHONE. The HTC Incredible is new hardware, just wait for the 4G IPHONE!
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KriisCDW

May 8, 2010, 7:31 PM
the next iPhone barely keeps up with the incredible? (If it is indeed the prototype found previously).

I appreciate the fact that you *REALLY* want an iPhone... I just don't understand whats so special about a locked down, over priced, fashion statement of a phone...

I just don't understand.
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Azeron

May 8, 2010, 11:40 PM
...is it necessary that you understand. Guy wants an iphone on Verizon. You don't. We get that. You do you and let him do him. Belittling someone who does not share your interests, needs, wants, desires is pointless and quite frankly childish.
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KriisCDW

May 9, 2010, 8:35 AM
because there is no reason for people to be go so insane over a stupid phone.

Especially now that there are viable alternatives that, in many aspects, beat the iPhone... that are already on Verizon. (Hint: Some of these options are just plain... Incredible)

Whooptie do. Someone doesn't get what they want because of *Insert random reason #235 here*. Apple and Verizon don't get along.

It's been 4 years... People need to realize that there is no Verizon iPhone and move along OR move to AT&T.
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cwcanty

May 9, 2010, 10:57 AM
I think you're still missing the point. Its not up for YOU to decide what I or Scott wants.

I like Android too, but there are still aspects of the iphone that I really love and if verizon got the iphone HD, im not sure which one I would choose (iphone or INCR). Its not a cut and dry answer.

The iphone also plays nice with a lot of corporations (including mine, which supports iphone, but not android).

Bottomline? The iphone=$$$$$$$$ for verizon and millions of units would be sold. So there is a market and saying "just get in incr" is not good answer for those people want the iphone.
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KriisCDW

May 9, 2010, 12:42 PM
And it is the ONLY answer for now.

All of the "VERIZON IS GETTING THE IPHONE!!! *FROTHS AT MOUTH*" is based on rumors and heresy.

No one knows when the AT&T/iPhone exclusivity ends. No one knows if it got extended for the iPad deal (rumors say it has... rumors). No one knows if Verizon and Apple are actually in talks or have made a deal.

So every bit of "I want" doesn't make it true.

Verizon might make money on iPhones... most likely a LOT of money.

*BUT* Verizon and Apple are very strong willed companies that have very different views of how "the deal" should be made. Neither company has changed much since the original deal got turned down.

There are still *VERY* fundamental issues that haven't changed with Verizon OR App...
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mellowlen62

May 9, 2010, 3:47 PM
Disagree. There are lots of people who "want it bad enough" but won't leave Verizon for it because they really don't want to deal with (or have in the past dealt with) AT&T. And the rumors, by the way, are getting louder and louder...
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KriisCDW

May 9, 2010, 5:50 PM
Unfounded in facts. Heresy.

2012 is getting closer... and talk about the world ending is getting closer... Still doesn't mean the world is going to end.

Rumors and speculation don't answer the original problems with Apple + Verizon.

I also know many people that don't want to deal with Verizon... so saying the opposite holds no weight.

I also know people that don't want to deal with either.
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This_Troper

May 9, 2010, 6:05 PM
Remember when the world ended in 2000? You may want to rethink going against RUMOR.
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Amarantamin

May 9, 2010, 7:01 PM
When 2012 falls through, I'm going to scheme to make it 2024.

So, guys, why should the world end in 2024? I'm sure we can think something up... 😈
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mellowlen62

May 9, 2010, 6:07 PM
I'm sure you realize that heresy and hearsay are two different things ...
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spinster

May 9, 2010, 10:22 PM
Thanks, mellowlen, I was just going to post the exact same thing, we are supposed to even listen to this person when they can't even use the right words!?!?
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epik

May 10, 2010, 9:33 AM
I'm usually a stickler for word choice, and it drives me bonkers when the incorrect synonym is used (their, they're, there), but with words such as heresy and hearsay, I'll cut the poster some slack. I don't know about you, but I use their, they're, and there a lot more than heresy and hearsay.

Won chance, thoh. Once hugh realeyes you're mistacke, yer dun. Don doot agin.
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KriisCDW

May 10, 2010, 7:03 PM
I try to keep my english correct, but stuff slides thru.

On the same note... this isn't an english class. I'm not going to lose sleep if an error or two pops in.

And honestly... "An opinion or a doctrine at variance with established religious beliefs"... vs "gossip".

Speaking against Apple isn't that far removed from being at variance with "religious beliefs" at the level of some of the zealots.
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epik

May 10, 2010, 11:43 PM
This isn't English class? And here I've been writing novels all this time... sheesh.
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mellowlen62

May 10, 2010, 7:06 PM
I did cut him some slack the first time I saw it, because, hey, I'm guilty of typos and misspelled words myself. But when it happened more than once, I was starting to wonder...
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Azeron

May 8, 2010, 11:15 AM
Yes they do. You may not want it, but there are plenty of former VZW customers who have ported out to AT&T for the iphone. If you do not want the iphone and are happy with your Droid...WONDERFUL! Don't deny the Scott Hermans of the world a chance to have the phone of their dreams on the Best Network. That is just plain selfish.
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epik

May 10, 2010, 9:38 AM
Speaking of selfish, a few coworkers and I were talking about the impending doom, er... release of the Magical Unicorn Pegasus IPHONE, and how typical Verizon / ironically hilarious it would be if after all these years Verizon gets the phone and it has a $40 data plan requirement instead of the standard $30.

We could see them doing it, because... well... why not? It's Verizon!

Still, it would suck for VZW to do such a dastardly thing.

Even more, I hope I'm still with the company if and when the magic phone arrives. I should make a fair amount of commission. Unless, of course, Verizon decides to retire the commission system the day before it's release / capture.
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alee

May 10, 2010, 11:07 AM
Commision on the i phone is terrible if it stays the same as it is on ATT. 25 dollars gp and it doesent matter what rate plan they are on and that is after the data feature too. Accesorys are a must with any i phone sale, which isnt hard to get considering the power issues with an i phone and theres alot of good ways to position a case in there too. I have only sold one i phone in about 3 months cause I always turn them onto something else, something more profitable.
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epik

May 12, 2010, 9:55 AM
Right now, Verizon runs their commission system the same across all the phone platforms. You bring in more money, you get paid more - simple as that. Adds and renewals are identical, unless you get enough adds to hit an accelerator.

I joke that we'd move to a non-commission system right before an IPHONE on Verizon, but it's not too far-fetched. Why would Verizon knowingly release a phone that we'll sell hand over fist without adjusting how we get paid first?

They wouldn't. If and when we get to that day, it will be interesting to see what happens.
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alee

May 13, 2010, 9:05 AM
I KNOW you guys would be paid differently. Att pays differently depending on cost of phone, rate plan, and features added. High rate plans pay more than low ones and new lines pay more than upgrades. However, the I phone pays a very skimpy 25 dollars gross profit, unless you get accesories. I personally can't stand that d*mn phone, not only cause of its pay, but from personal experience, its the lowest quality phone EVER made. Its just a glorified I touch with a crappy radio attached. And I can not stand how Steve Jobs makes his own personal vendetas (flash) the consumers problem.
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epik

May 13, 2010, 9:44 AM
Wow, in my area we haven't been paid on the price of the phone since 2004.

Everything we do with a reoccurring charge, plus accessories we sell, generate a type of value. That value goes toward a value quota. If we hit our value quota, we hit our target commission. Generate less, make less - more for more. So a secondary line new or upgrade is worth $10, $10 goes into our value. If we sell a $100 accessory, $25 goes into our value. If we sell a $30 data plan, $15 goes into the value. Eventually, we generate enough to make money. There are certain things that can accelerate your commission, such as attaining a certain amount of your adds quota, or not having a lot of returns.

So in my current system, I don't care if you pay $0 o...
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alee

May 13, 2010, 9:51 AM
Something I should add, I work for an authorized retailer, not a corp. store, I'm sure they get paid differently.
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KriisCDW

May 8, 2010, 7:17 PM
Poor you... guess you'll just have to settle for less fashion and more function with an Incredible.
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sparker781

May 10, 2010, 8:25 AM
Who cares about the iPhone? I mean seriously, you get more functionality and a MUCH better phone with anything Android. I could care less if the iPhone came to Verizon this year or any year....Sure it might be a great addition to the lineup but it's not gonna make or break Verizon at all
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epik

May 10, 2010, 9:39 AM
I would buy it if it transformed into an Autobot.

But no Decepticon model... they poop a lot.
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KriisCDW

May 10, 2010, 8:58 PM
5 year contract Apple & AT&T?

You like Apple...s? How you like THEM Apples?
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madmatg

May 10, 2010, 9:29 PM
Haha Apple is great as long as you install that lovely Jailbreak!
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epik

May 10, 2010, 11:53 PM
Also look at:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/10/googles-an ... »
And:
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=5948 »

Android is killing IPHONE. How? Sales. Lots of them. Multiple models across multiple carriers.

For all the incessant IPHONE this and IPHONE that, you have to agree that limiting your product to one carrier has definitely gone the way of the RAZR.
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Menno

May 11, 2010, 9:24 AM
heh... I love the combacks the icrack people are giving.

"It won't be impressive until One android device outsells the Iphone" (Because single platform OS is Android's goal.. right?)

or Blue:
"It's because verizon had so many glitches most of those "sales" are warranty phones." (Correct me if I'm wrong.. but these don't go towards sales numbers, right?"
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epik

May 11, 2010, 9:44 AM
All the other platforms are multiple device... even iPhone is a multiple device platform. It's not like the worlds supply of 3g was gone by the time 3gs hit the market. And more so, when is iPhone going to be multiple device on multiple carrier? If its that good, single carrier distribution is killing it.

Glitches? Were there glitches I haven't heard about? I've done warranty replacements on maybe half a dozen units in six months. Did I miss something? Was there a recall on this phone, or a Storm-like software fiasco? I'm not really sure what they're referring to. But let's assume for a,moment that there actually was a mass issue with the phone. Warranty exchanges are not counted as sale. I'd they were then Verizon might be ruined...
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epik

May 11, 2010, 9:45 AM
Wu is way in my post. Incredible doesn't like phonescoop all that much.
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Azeron

May 15, 2010, 7:51 PM
...as soon as Cingular lost the Razr exclusive, Verizon jumped on the Razr V3C, V3M, Razr Maxx and on and on. ALL were POS handsets and yet they sold and sold and sold! I couldn't talk customers out of getting the *BLEEPED* things.
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epik

May 17, 2010, 9:16 AM
RAZR always made me think it was a Go-Bot name.
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Azeron

May 11, 2010, 9:40 PM
I tried to tell him to leave Verizon for AT&T. His loyalty to Verizon is too strong. Apparently he loves VZW more than Apple. Curious...
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Scott Herman

May 12, 2010, 2:00 PM
I like Verizon!

The match up of Verizon and the IPHONE is going to be sweet heaven!
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KriisCDW

May 12, 2010, 7:37 PM
Or later... if reports of an extended contract are also true - in exchange for the very different iPad plans AT&T has.

All the rumors about random no-bodies... but no response about contract info that's been reported.

Have fun with your iPhone... in 2012-3.

Only 2 more years to wait.
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Amarantamin

May 12, 2010, 8:03 PM
Hehe, save your upgrades for it! 🤣
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Platypus

May 12, 2010, 8:46 PM
Man you seem to have some sick love affair with Scott, he doesn't reply to you at all but you chase him around like a kid at recess. We get already you don't think Verizon will have an iphone 🙄
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Amarantamin

May 12, 2010, 9:03 PM
Hey, come on now. It keeps me amused, let them dally around. 😁
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KriisCDW

May 13, 2010, 1:34 PM
and have a weird hate of apple...

and love of destroying the dreams of those that get all wet over them.

Too much free time at work. 🙂
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Scott Herman

May 12, 2010, 10:47 AM
Tuesday, May 11, 2010!!!!

The IPHONE will be here this year!



Rumors of a Verizon iPhone arriving this summer continue to surface, with CrunchGear claiming Landor Associates, which handles Verizon's branding, is working an advertising campaign regarding Apple's next-generation handset.

Author John Biggs simply cited a "tipster" in Tuesday's report, which said that Landor Associates are "hard at work" in preparation for the fourth-generation iPhone. The report said Brad Scott, senior director with Landor, is believed to be in charge of the team.

"Because Landor focuses a bit more on branding -- they, for example, created the dual-B logo for Blackberry -- don't expect TBWA, Apple's current iPhone agency, to get pushed out when i...
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wompwomp

May 12, 2010, 12:30 PM
so... how much do you hate the word "Rumor" now? 😉
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Scott Herman

May 12, 2010, 1:48 PM
I'm fine. This is an exciting time! The IPHONE is coming soon. Those who want to dismiss all the sources as just rumors, that's their prerogative to me it seems like connect the dots! All the various increased chatter are not just floating onto the Internet for kicks!

This is yet another big piece of news pointing to the IPHONE coming this year! The moment many have been waiting for is near!
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KriisCDW

May 12, 2010, 12:57 PM
with accompanying legal documets... in the public record...

kinda trumps 'my friend knows someone who delivers mail to the guy who is next door neighbors with this guy who delivers mail to the ad agency that he SWEARS is working on an iphone campaign'

double dog swears with no taksies baksies don't really count as exactly reliable information.

just sayin...
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sandmanzini

May 13, 2010, 12:11 PM
😁 😁 😁 😁

If VZW gets the iPhone, never again would a customer service rep have the daunting task of trying to "save" a customer from canceling for the iPhone!

No more "I just want an iPhone." disconnects.

VZW's churn would drop dramatically and net customer adds would go through the roof! If VZW does release it before the end of the year it would make for a very happy February next year for VZW employees.



😁 😁 😁 😁
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Scott Herman

May 13, 2010, 7:07 PM
They better order MORE THAN THAT! This is the verizon IPHONE we're talking about!

From the BGR! Posted today!

DigiTimes has released a pretty interesting report this morning, one that would have us believe that Apple has just placed an order for a whole whack of CDMA iPhones. The CDMA iPhone is to be built by Pegatron — a subsidiary of ASUStek — and the company is expected to deliver up to 10 million devices per year. Naturally, both Pegatron and Apple have declined to comment, but it’s pretty interesting that this rumor closely mirrors what the WSJ recently reported. Factor in that just two days ago we discovered that Verizon is working on an iPhone advertising blitz targeted for the end of summer and we’d say th...
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BeachSlapped

May 13, 2010, 8:05 PM
I'm going to feel so sorry for you when WWDC 2010 comes and goes without any iPhone for Vz. 🙄 Your feelings will be crushed and you'll be placed on a 5150 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Azeron

May 15, 2010, 7:43 PM
Spare us your insincerity.
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iamajim

May 13, 2010, 10:07 PM
Don't listen to all the naysayers Scotty, the rumors are starting to come hot and heavy now. I expect you'll soon have your IPHONE. Who wouda thunk eh?
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Scott Herman

May 13, 2010, 11:24 PM
Yep. You would think from some peoples reaction I'm writing these articles.

It's from BGR! Even he doesn't deny the rumors are getting hard to ignore.


Verizon IPHONE! 😎
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Menno

May 14, 2010, 9:04 AM
Not to mention other CDMA carriers here and in other countries.
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epik

May 17, 2010, 9:14 AM
Leader of the iRobot movement!
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f38urry

May 14, 2010, 12:27 PM
Whichever way you cut it, these are all still rumors. The key words are RUMOR, CHINA and ENTRY LEVEL.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/13/pegatron_cdm ... »
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ArmySF

May 19, 2010, 1:13 PM
If the Motorola Shadow and the Iphone were on the Network tommorrow it would be an easy choice for me.
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Scott Herman

May 19, 2010, 4:57 PM
Dan Frommer, provided by
Wednesday, May 19, 2010

Here's Why We Won't Get Our Butts Kicked When The IPHONE Goes To Verizon!
-- perhaps as soon as this year!!

So how will AT&T, the iPhone's exclusive carrier for the last three years, deal with that when it happens?

Will customers flee in droves?

Probably not, AT&T wireless CEO Ralph de la Vega said this morning at the JPMorgan tech conference (without formally confirming that iPhone exclusivity is ending). Why not? Because switching carriers is still pretty tricky to do.

•70% of AT&T's customers are on family plans, which is a pain in the butt to move everyone over to a new carrier, de la Vega said.
•40% of customers are on corporate discount plans, which are also...
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Scott Herman

May 19, 2010, 4:58 PM
by Boy Genius on May 19th!!!!

One of our Verizon guys hit us up with some pretty interesting news. We have been told that when the mythical Verizon iPhone materializes, assuming it’s not a LTE unit, it might launch with VoRA; Voice over Rev. A. According to our source, Verizon has been testing VoRA as a precursor to VoLTE, and as long as the network upgrade timeline and iPhone release are aligned, we should see this happen. If it happens.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/19/verizon-ap ... »
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