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When is verizon getting the IPHONE???

Scott Herman

Dec 17, 2009, 1:03 AM
I hate verizon and their line up of phones they're so boring compared to the IPHONE! The IPHONE is the best phone out there yet verizon refuses to make the deal happen, and get us the IPHONE!! I hope we get the IPHONE in 2010!

C'mon VERIZON I really really really want the IPHONE!
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Menno

Dec 17, 2009, 1:15 AM
Verizon will get the iphone when people stop asking about it. Good luck
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Menno

Dec 17, 2009, 1:16 AM
And another thing.. you consider the Droid and Droid Eris boring?
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Scott Herman

Dec 17, 2009, 12:21 PM
Absolutely nothing compares to the app store of the IPHONE, not to mention the look and feel of it! I only want an IPHONE not a knock off. Verizon really messed up when passing on the IPHONE, now they're really really paying for it.
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stinson5043

Dec 17, 2009, 12:56 PM
last time i checked verizon is doing alright as far as service goes. best 3g network, most customers, best carrier in the new consumer reports cell phone comparison issue. yeah it sounds like they are really paying for passing up on the iphone.
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Scott Herman

Dec 17, 2009, 2:23 PM
Last I checked ATT added more customers than verizon last quarter, I'm sure in part to the popularity of the IPHONE.
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adilus

Dec 17, 2009, 2:54 PM
No doubt you are correct there. But the problem is that Apple is not an innovator. They have a slick marketing machine with a slick design team and 8% of the market.

The problem with Apple is that they are profit first, at all cost. They sue anybody and everybody that even get's close to stepping on their toes and it is getting ridiculous.

Google/Bing Apple Lawsuits... and you will see how they are. If you thought Microsoft of the early 90's was bad, you aint seen nothin yet.

Switched has a really good article on Apple here:

http://www.switched.com/2009/08/03/is-apple-more-evi ... »


If you want to be a fanboy, be one. But be an educated fanboy.
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wizardofCroz

Dec 20, 2009, 12:14 PM
There are two types of wireless customers: People who own iPhones, and people who hate iPhones, and the people who hate them, can't afford them.
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adilus

Dec 20, 2009, 3:04 PM
wizardofCroz said:
There are two types of wireless customers: People who own iPhones, and people who hate iPhones, and the people who hate them, can't afford them.



I think the iPhone is one of the coolest devices ever. Unfortunately I choose not to sponsor or support Apple as a company. I currently use the Nokia N900 because I personally like this device better.

Also, I live in Coatesville, New Zealand where 3g coverage is suspect and there are cost penalties in talking with people that are on different mobile area codes within the Auckland area. Because of the Maemo/Symbian developer community, I am able to utilise Wi-fi hotspots to make Voip calls, bypassing any type unnecessary tariffs.

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Azeron

Dec 21, 2009, 12:23 PM
Hmmmmm...I like iphones, but I don't own one. I am confused. Which group do I belong in? Eh?
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cweiss

Dec 23, 2009, 10:00 PM
You know the funny thing about the "iPhone"? It is the worst phone maybe ever made. Get an itouch and then a real phone. If it doesn't work as a phone first then it is worthless. It has nothing to do with afford. If you can afford a smartphone, then an iPhone is the same thing. IPhone lovers need to think about what a device needs to do. Need to make a call and not drop it? Pick another device want to look special well then use the iphone you will be real "special".
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Azeron

Dec 24, 2009, 9:55 PM
This sounds like the arguments against adding WiFi to VZW smartphones. Don't dismiss people for wanting the iphone. Just get it.
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KriisCDW

May 16, 2010, 10:08 AM
i own one because im on att... i hate apple.

if att had the incredible, id drop iphone in a heartbeat.
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Menno

Dec 17, 2009, 6:03 PM
right, most of their ads were for the iphone, so when it is no longer exclusive (USA is one of the few companies that still has only one carrier offering it) what do you thing their numbers will look like then?

ATT has a one trick pony right now that they rely far too much on
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Menno

Dec 17, 2009, 6:00 PM
Droid's are not a knockoff of the iphone. they are a wholly different animal.

And verizon is still adding millions of customers a year (not including buyouts) and remain exceedingly popular and their network has a positive customer reputation. How exactly are they paying for it?

60%+ Iphone users will consider jumping ship when the Iphone comes to other carriers, that's horrible brand loyalty. While there are thousands of people (it not more) on verizon who want the iphone, but won't get one until it is on verizon.

Yes, the app store is kinda neat, but Android 2.0's app store is nothing to sneeze at. There are fewer apps, but most are free, and unless you're specifically looking at games, you can find most of the same apps (by d...
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Scott Herman

Dec 17, 2009, 8:07 PM
I played with one at the store. I didn't like it. I don't want a slider and the keypad was sub-par anyways. I don't like the look and feel of it, I want the worlds best phone the IPHONE.
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Azeron

Dec 18, 2009, 12:59 PM
So why don't you have one? AT&T is right around the corner. I want an iphone, too. I just don't want AT&T.
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Menno

Dec 19, 2009, 2:14 PM
I'm sorry, but playing with the phone in the store is nothing compared to actually using the device for a day or so. The iphone is not the worlds best phone, because worlds best is subjective.

I would HATE it if I had an iphone. I have an ipod touch and the writing on it is next to unusable for me. (I wouldn't be able to text on it). On top of that, the customizability of the Droid is the primary reason I want it. When I get my computer up and running again I'm most likely going to Root it and mess with the homescreens, and put muti-touch on it. (I am already using the HTC keyboard, which is amazing)

That's the main reason I hate all these iphone questions. Yes, it's a neat device, but it is NOT the phone for me. I would rathe...
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mellowlen62

Dec 21, 2009, 7:22 PM
You CANNOT play with one in the store to get the full effect. I'm sorry, but when I tried one at the store, I wanted to throw it against the wall. It was miserable and the salesperson couldn't get it to do anything either. Then I saw a friend's and used it in a whole different setting (concrete basement of a church...) and I was blown away...it is completely amazing. And yes, it blows the iphone away. Just mho.
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Azeron

Dec 17, 2009, 4:37 AM
This is the only post by this user.
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Scott Herman

Dec 17, 2009, 12:22 PM
And I suppose you had some magical power that let you bypass your first posting.
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CellStudent

Dec 18, 2009, 10:10 PM
If you expect to have any credibility in an online forum, start your career by making intelligent response to other people's questions and comments.

Jumping in cold and making ridiculously inflammatory comments is not going to make you any friends OR sympathizers.

If you really care about spurring a useful, engaging conversation, try building some reputation before you start pulling stunts like this.
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AshDizzle

Dec 29, 2009, 8:30 PM
Because Phone Scoop is such an amazing community of geniuses, right?

This forum is a joke, and you are on some high horse thinking you know everything wireless.

Over 90% of the threads on here are full of demented speculation or outright lies from salespeople who think we'll believe any bs that comes out of their mouth.

I think Scott Herman deserves a pretty decent commendation for at least having proper grammar for once.
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adilus

Dec 17, 2009, 10:03 AM
Big Red will never have the iPhone. They are supporting Android, RIM, WinMo and soon to be Palm's WebOS. They will not support Apple.
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acculabs

Dec 17, 2009, 1:31 PM
Agreed, Apple thinks their sh@@t doesn't stink. Let ATT keep the iphone for the preteen crowd. They are the ones that like the fart apps, bic lighter apps, gun apps. You know,.toys.

The Droids are for people with half a brain.
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Scott Herman

Dec 17, 2009, 2:24 PM
You must of flunked out of debate class! Great everyone with an IPHONE is a moron Rolling Eyes
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300zxATT_VZW

Dec 17, 2009, 2:56 PM
The iphone is much better for games (at the moment) compared to any other phone but thats about it.
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acculabs

Dec 17, 2009, 3:39 PM
So the solution is to have an ipod touch for games and wifi connection and a phone that resides on a system that acutally works well.
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mycool

Dec 17, 2009, 1:39 PM
The iPhone isn't the BEST PHONE. It is the phone that has the most apps available for it... even if 90% of them are useless.

Sorry, but I don't think many people need to have a farting app for their phone...
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adilus

Dec 17, 2009, 2:55 PM
The Fart Machine FTW!!!!
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Scott Herman

Dec 17, 2009, 8:02 PM
Are the rumors true or not? Will verizon be getting the IPHONE in 2010 or not?

All this stuff below

News | Markets | Technology | Personal Finance | Small Business | CNN.com

Fortune.com Video Home Daily Brainstorm Apple 2.0 Mobile Tech@Work Big Tech Cool Companies
Apple 2.0
Mac news from outside the reality distortion field

Rumors: A Verizon iPhone in 2010
Posted by Philip Elmer-DeWitt
November 12, 2009 6:04 AM

Two sources say Apple is building a hybrid "worldmode" phone that Verizon could use

Judging from reader comments in this space, there are a lot of cellphone owners in America locked into Verizon (VZ) contracts who would buy an iPhone in a minute if they didn't have to swi...
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waldorfsalad

Dec 17, 2009, 8:23 PM
This dwarf shows up out of nowhere, asking the age old question... and has knowledge of ATT customer adds vs Verizon adds. Do you really think he is serious? Or just mixing things up... as dwarves do.
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cwcanty

Dec 17, 2009, 11:45 PM
I think the correct term is trolls. lol
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cwcanty

Dec 17, 2009, 11:49 PM
Verizon is trying to run a business. Not put their entire stake on one phone ala ATT.

Att network has been literally overun by iphone users and now many are leaving due to poor service and the inability to use their phones.

If you want the experience, just get an ipod touch. It basically the same and you don't have to deal with ATT.

My guess is that you will not see a CDMA iphone till LTE is more expansive in the US. There is a CDMA iphone in verizon testing, but I heard its not performing well. I think the radio's are underpowered in those things (hence the complaints on att).

Stop whining and be patient. Android is just as good, apple just does music better, other than that they are pretty even.

Chris
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Beachcrapped

Dec 20, 2009, 10:14 AM
Well put.
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amouse09

Dec 17, 2009, 11:59 PM
Ok, so I saw this thread and had to comment, because as a Verizon rep and a Macbook/ipod touch owner, I feel like I needed to put in my two cents. Here's the deal:

1. Apple originally came to Verizon to give us the iPhone. We turned it down because they wanted a piece of the phone contract on top of the phone purchase itself. No other phone manufacturer gets this and we didn't need it. AT&T turned it down too, but was stuck with it once they bought Cingular, the original carrier of the iPhone. Now they are not making enough money on it to improve their service, so they sue Verizon when we call them out on it. ;)

2. The iPhone still sells models that don't even have a camera. Seriously? MMS was innovative in 2005, but now, it really sho...
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stinson5043

Dec 18, 2009, 2:25 PM
well said
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MrGoofball

Dec 18, 2009, 3:04 PM
Anyone else when reading this guy's posts imagine a really hyperactive spastic chihuahua wanting you to throw a ball for it?
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Azeron

Dec 18, 2009, 5:44 PM
Laughing

That's very good! I thought it was a bogus post. I was wrong. Someone CAN be that ridiculous.
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Butthead007

Dec 19, 2009, 10:52 PM
I knew a Scott Herman years ago. I would love it to be the same one (doubt it..lol).

Verizon will be getting an apple phone. Let's just leave it at that.
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Scott Herman

Dec 21, 2009, 3:56 PM
Thanks for all the positive feedback, but seriously when is verizon getting the IPHONE?
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Azeron

Dec 21, 2009, 6:28 PM
Seriously. No one knows. If I were AT&T, Verizon would NEVER get the iphone. Pay Apple whatever it takes to keep it exclusive. However, rumors have the exclusive ending in June or July. This would be okay news for T-Mobile if they want to sell the current version of the iphone which does not have their AWS 3G radio installed so it would only work on Edge with them, but at least T-Mobile customers could buy it openly without jailbreaking it and having Apple brick it with one of their malicious "updates". For Verizon it could be news, but more than likely will not be. Qualcomm has invented a Worldmode chip, but does Apple really want to be bothered with CDMA at all? I doubt it. If you REALLY want an iphone then go to AT&T. I would li...
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MrGoofball

Dec 21, 2009, 6:32 PM
But it's the IPHONE!!! Yip Yip Yip Yip!! The greatest phone in like ever!!! Yip Yip Yip Yip!! Verizon has to get it if they like want to be cool!!! Yip Yip Yip Yip!!! Throw da ball, throw da ball, throw da ball!!!
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Azeron

Dec 21, 2009, 6:39 PM
Laughing

Aw man! ROTFLMAO!
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Scott Herman

Dec 21, 2009, 7:22 PM
It's better than anything verizon has now or ever will get. I'm sure when verizon gets the best phone the IPHONE all these people who are just envious they can't have it will be the first ones standing in the line on release day to get it and it will be like Jesus parting of the seas...until then you will just keep on pathetically trying to convince yourself that the droid is a worthwhile contender.


Do you think the third quarter (2010) rumors are true?
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mellowlen62

Dec 21, 2009, 9:22 PM
I will NEVER get an iphone. You can quote me. But keep on believing that EVERYONE on Verizon wants one. Whatever gets you through the day. Cool
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Att_user04

Dec 23, 2009, 4:23 PM
Would this work? I know some Verizon phones have a sim card. What would happen if you put the sim card in the iphone? just a thought
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Gadget Junky

Dec 23, 2009, 7:21 PM
Only overseas.
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mycool

Dec 24, 2009, 12:06 AM
If your guess comes to be true, that would be everyone EXCEPT me.
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robw92

Dec 25, 2009, 8:52 PM
Is this guy SERIOUS?
Pretty frightening to think he might be. Shocked
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sparker781

Dec 26, 2009, 1:37 PM
Wow...The iPhone and the fact that we as Verizon customers are jealous of that piece of junk. Yeah it would be sweet if it came to the Big V but to be perfectly honest with you I could care less one way or the other. I have an iPod touch and hate the damn thing...Good thing I only use it for music...Sure it has an app store but you know what thats not a deal breaker. I just hate the keyboard on that more than on my Voyager.
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coasterguy

Dec 28, 2009, 9:30 PM
I also think it is funny that people believe the Droid is as good. Not so much. Anyone who has played with an ipod touch or and iphone will easily know that they cannot be touched as far as ease of use and performance. It may not be the best phone but everything else makes up for it. I too will be in line in July when it FINALLY arrives. Wink
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Azeron

Dec 28, 2009, 9:39 PM
Man! While I think the iphone is great you are late to this thread. Laughing
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VZW Sales Mgr

Dec 30, 2009, 3:11 PM
This thread is getting old
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chocolatebuny

May 16, 2010, 12:51 AM
If they turned down the Nexus one, which makes you think they will get the Iphone? Iphone is in a contract with AT&T for 5 years. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Silly fools!!
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cwcanty

May 16, 2010, 7:28 PM
Contracts can always be adjusted and changed. That was just the original deal. You have zero idea what the current deal is with att or verizon.

And they prolly passed on the nexus one cause they had a better phone in the incredible, the nexus really served no purpose for them.
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chocolatebuny

May 22, 2010, 10:47 AM
Neither would the IPHONE. GET REAL!!.
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KriisCDW

May 16, 2010, 9:58 AM
and are u blind???

one word: Incredible

pull ur head out yo pooper
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cwcanty

May 16, 2010, 7:26 PM
are YOU blind. People want choices. And the iphone works better for some people. Not everyone is in love with Android.

Iphone has also seen better corporate adoption. My company supports iphone and not android for instance.

Just cause you dont want it, doesnt mean someone else cant....


Chris
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KriisCDW

May 16, 2010, 9:42 PM
People have choices...

iPhone on AT&T.. or somehinv else (as far as IT support, probably BB) on verizon...

Your it supports iPhone? Cool. Have fun with AT&T. Or with a blackberry. Both are choices.

Wright wrong or indifferent, recent court documents say 5 year exclusivity deal. 2012. Rumors to left right and middle don't change a written contract. Nothing short of official releases - or new FACTUAL documentation - means anyhing else otherwise.

Don't like the know facts? Don't hate me. Hate apple. They signed the contract depriving you of BETTER choices.

You still have choices. Crying about them changes nothing, except making people look stupid - year after year after year - when non-AT&T iPhones don't materialize.

Grow up...
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mellowlen62

May 16, 2010, 9:49 PM
Except that, exclusivity or not, a lot of people "in the know" at Verizon are claiming that it is coming to Big Red THIS YEAR. Now, I'm certainly not one standing in line for the almighty iphone, and maybe they're right, and maybe they're wrong, but many contracts are not iron clad, and I'm not sure you know any more than "they" know.
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KriisCDW

May 16, 2010, 10:03 PM
have been saying the same thing for *YEARS* now.

2007: Verizon may get iPhone
http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2007/09/19/upda ... »

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ip-telephony/verizon-iphon ... »

2008: Verizon will get iPhone in 2009
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/iPhone-Heading-To ... »

2008: Apple working on CDMA iPhone
http://www.9to5mac.com/Verizon-iPhone-2009-2010 »

*YEARS* of 'CDMA iPhone coming soon'. Years of rumors. Years of speculation. Years of failure.

I'll believe it when it's officially announced. Until then, it's firmly "rumor and speculation".

I also point out rumors and speculation.....
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cwcanty

May 17, 2010, 3:57 PM
So stop posting in this thread if you dont care!!!

And the exclusivity that came out in a court date YEARS AGO means nothing. Unless that court document was dated within the past 90 days of 2010 its irrelevant. Plans can change, contracts can be adjusted. And Apple, or ATT have not come out and said that the deal is still active. So again, the outdated court doc is not valid until someone from Apple or ATT says that it will hold true and outlines the full terms.

The fact is, more than few rumblings have pointed to the end of 2010 for a release on verizon and since that date has not passed I would say there is a chance of it happening.

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KriisCDW

May 17, 2010, 5:25 PM
ill point out that

1) it was the hottest phone... in 2007. now its same old rumors about same old phone

2) proven old contract trumps unproven new news, until proven otherwise. proof is proof and may have changed is still may have.

3) 300% more rumors... is still 300% more unproven bs.

4) want to discuss an old phone? you have to deal with naysayers like me (with too much time on hands at work) who point out the stupidity.

5) hottest phone is still discussed. its called Evo. maybe apple can catch up to it. maybe...
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Cellenator

May 17, 2010, 6:00 PM
I concur Chris. Some people just pile on like an annoying monkey for no reason at all. Scott might be out there with his love of the IPHONE, but I respect his enthusiasm a lot more than some peoples annoying it will NEVER EVER HAPPEN until 2012 maybe post! I for one would love to see a 4th Gen Iphone on Verizon.
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Amarantamin

May 17, 2010, 6:37 PM
cwcanty said:
So again, the outdated court doc is not valid until someone from Apple or ATT says that it will hold true and outlines the full terms.


That document is not 'outdated' until 2012. That same document does outline the full terms of the agreement. Both Apple and ATT agreed that said court document will 'hold true' for five years from the time it was created.
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Cellenator

May 17, 2010, 7:08 PM
Jesus Christ you couldn't miss the mark with more miles!
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iamajim

May 16, 2010, 10:04 PM
As has been pointed out in earlier posts, the "agreement" between crApple and ATT is subject to modification; coulda happened anywhere down the line and we wouldn't know about til Vz or another carrier (I hear Tmob mentioned a lot) gets their own IPHONE. Personally I think when the IPAD came out it's possible that's when something coulda been worked out; ATT gets the IPAD for a certain length of time in return for a shorter strangle hold on the IPHONE, maybe figuring that it's coming sooner or later and this is a fig leaf to sweeten the deal. We'll see.
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Cellenator

May 17, 2010, 2:42 PM
Can Scott come spit in your face if you're wrong? Bringing up old threads and repeating the same crap is really frigin ANNYONING.
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Iknowallaboutphones

May 17, 2010, 10:16 PM
Who cares. All you apple fan boys need to get on the android bus, or step in front of it.... Stop asking about VZW and an iPhone. Dont want it, dont need it. Stop surfing on your air macs in starbucks and get a PC. or not, i don't care. Keep being a slave to Apple... it's your money.
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Cellenator

May 18, 2010, 11:31 AM
Who are you to tell people to stop asking about a cell phone?
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mellowlen62

May 18, 2010, 12:09 PM
But the thing is, not everyone wants Android. Some want WebOS, some like Windows Mobile. Just because some people (myself included) think Android is great, not everyone does. A lot of people I work with prefer the simplicity of the Iphone to Android. Apple makes some great products, but I'm entitled NOT to buy them. Thats my choice. We're all different, we all have different preferences and tastes. We all know Scott wants the Iphone. A lot of people with Verizon do. I quite frankly appreciate that he's keeping tabs on the progress for me (haha), because I will be switching a lot of people back to Verizon if it ever arrives. But in the meantime realize that everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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navydave

May 18, 2010, 11:20 AM
How about with good luck NEVER. Its a phone thats all just a freaking phone. Worry about important stuff like a cure for Cancer or something
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Cellenator

May 18, 2010, 11:29 AM
You rather have him worry about a cure for Cancer or something? Lame! Maybe you're confused about where you are on the Internet this is cell phone FORUM! He can desire and talk about the IPHONE all he wants!
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sandmanzini

May 18, 2010, 5:58 PM
Why should he choose to worry about a cure for cancer instead of when or if Big Red gets the iPhone?

Dude wants an iPhone. If the idea of VZW getting the phone brings him happiness and a bit of respite from the worries of this world, who are any of us to judge this man?

Who among us only thinks of a cure for cancer or the starving children right here in the United States? If ANYONE does, then I bet they are a Serious Sam and NOT on a website about wireless phones.
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Amarantamin

May 18, 2010, 7:09 PM
On the front page of the Verizon forum, no less. Could we let one of these threads die, please? Over half of this forum is iPhone rumor started by Scott (no offense intended, just pointing it out.).

Do we really need two, people? Really?
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Cellenator

May 18, 2010, 7:36 PM
Blame chocolatebuny this thread was dead long ago recently revived Sunday for no apparent reason. Not that I care.
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cwcanty

May 18, 2010, 11:18 PM
Its an old post, it will work its way out soon. On a side note this is why phonescoop should completely redo their forum layout and make it more like Hofo or crackberry or pretty much any other internet forum.

Just my 2 cents....

Chris
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bleu_tropix

May 19, 2010, 1:58 AM
touché...hope the webmaster is reading this.
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KriisCDW

May 19, 2010, 12:01 PM
http://www.phonescoop.com/forums/forum.php?ff=1 »

Rich answers posts there frequently. Ya know? The webmaster? Smile
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KriisCDW

May 19, 2010, 11:59 AM
chance of actually getting a VZW iPhone.

Surprised Shocked Twisted Evil Laughing Laughing Laughing

Ya know... the louder ya scream about how big your *Cough* chances are *cough*, the smaller your *cough* chances are *cough*...
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flip69

May 26, 2010, 9:59 AM
I smell a troll.
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epik

May 26, 2010, 10:06 AM
Don't worry about Scott, he's harmless. If he's a troll to anything, it's Verizon getting IPHONE (he capitalizes it). He even decided to leave Verizon for the iPhone once, but never went through with it. Now, he patiently waits for a phone that may or may not exist, but definitely lives within his heart.
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