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superawesomefones

Nov 27, 2009, 6:54 PM
Hey guys,
Just wondering if we are going to get an iPhone. I mean, I was a little uneasy when we started running ads bashing the iPhone if we would still get it, but who knows.
Thanks.
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AshDizzle

Nov 27, 2009, 8:43 PM
I heard rumors it was coming out next week.
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acculabs

Nov 27, 2009, 10:06 PM
I heard that it was released in the SF and NY markets this morning. Two of the many places where ATT coverage sucks.
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Att_user04

Nov 27, 2009, 11:39 PM
Every week you people put up a post asking if the i phone will come to Verizon, and each week you get the same answer, No No No. Apple is smart not to put the i phone on Verizon because if they did all the cool features it has would be disabled by verizon. If you want one so bad just switch to At&t, I've had them for 4 years now and never had a problem. I live in Rochester and get service everywhere. I've even traveled the country and have had no problems. I have a i phone and it works just fine, don't listen to other people they just bash the i phone cuz they wish they had one. Don't be hating on at&t give em a chance. Smile
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cwcanty

Nov 28, 2009, 12:40 AM
Glad you are having a positive experience. But you are FAR from the norm. Most people in larger cities are having major issues with reception due to that data hog of a phone.
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zentec

Nov 28, 2009, 8:44 AM
What metric do people use in determining that this phone is a "data hog". My phone uses about 320 megabytes of data per month, and a third of that is a 6.5 megabyte podcast downloaded weekdays.

Unless the benchmark is under 100 megabytes of data per month, I don't see it. And if it is that low, shame on the carriers for seriously underestimating how their customers would grow into using their networks.
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brett33

Nov 30, 2009, 2:44 AM
rumors have been floating around Verizon will get the iphone lite and most likely not until LTE (4G) so mid to late 2010. photos of the iphone lite are online just Google it. Apple is also working on a Nano phone called the Hi phone which has a rotary dial pad
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Azeron

Nov 28, 2009, 1:16 AM
That's good for you. However, I live in the middle of nowhere. Verizon covers me great and AT&T does not. I'm one of the 25% of Americans NOT covered by AT&T 3G. Tough ish huh? Thanks.
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vzwer

Nov 28, 2009, 7:45 AM
Att_user04 said:
Apple is smart not to put the i phone on Verizon because if they did all the cool features it has would be disabled by verizon.


Dude, seriously, people need to stop using this as an excuse as VZW does not "cripple" their advanced devices. What features has VZW "crippled" on the Droid? S2?
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AshDizzle

Nov 30, 2009, 8:13 PM
vzwer said:
What features has VZW "crippled" on the Droid?


Multitouch.
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uscingulair

Nov 30, 2009, 4:43 PM
at$tuser04. Google Voice. I can use my friends and family number as the google voice number. Then all my out of country numbers are set into my google voice. So I get unlimited over sees calling. Name one cool feature on my droid that Verizon has taken off? But as stated above you can see why at&t/Apple won't let them use google voice.
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AshDizzle

Nov 30, 2009, 8:15 PM
The Motorola Milestone has multitouch support. The Droid does not.
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cwcanty

Nov 28, 2009, 12:41 AM
I have some sources with verizon and they said that apple was pissed with the droid ads and now the iphone is shelved for verizon until further notice.

There was rumors of a Q3 release in 2010, but I dont think that will happen.
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Azeron

Nov 28, 2009, 3:22 AM
Sorry, but I find it silly that a corporation would *Bleep* off money due to a commercial. AT&T may peel off a million VZW customers a year, but evidently there are some customers who are here to stay. So Apple says: "We don't want to sell phones to those people because their provider told the truth about our device? Hell of a way to grow market-share. Who runs their business that way? Certainly not grown men.
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cwcanty

Nov 28, 2009, 3:44 AM
"grown men" are also the same people who locked into one carrier for 3-5 years in the U.S. Its not a crazy idea for them to be pissed off. The iphone wasn't working well on the verizon network anyway (from what I heard from two sources who had knowledge of test units results).

Chances were good that the iphone would never really get off the ground with verizon (atleast until LTE gets rolling). They prolly just used the ads as an easy out to quiet talks for the time being.

Its frustrating, but its not as simple for apple as "put a cdma chip in an ipod touch"...which is what everyone seems to think. Apple basically makes the same gsm phone for the entire world, so engineering a CDMA version would be a huge task and a totally new ve...
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mellowlen62

Nov 28, 2009, 10:20 AM
I'm with you to some degree on the mechanics behind making the device CDMA, Chris, except when I read the post, I had the same thought. No company decides to shelve something because of an ad campaign that "upsets" them. Using it as a convenient excuse? Possibly. But even if that were true, it's pretty lame. Sounds like a 5 year old, not a multimillion dollar corporation.
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cwcanty

Nov 28, 2009, 10:24 AM
Well im not saying that is the only reason. Im just saying the talks have cooled. And if you were in negotiations with a company and then that company started talking a whole bunch of crap about your best product, yeah, you might not take that laying down.

I know it sounds weird, but both companies are doing fine without a cdma iphone, so there is prolly no rush to release the phone.

This may not have been the only reason. But like I said, I have 2 separate sources within verizon who pretty said the same thing. Dont shoot the messenger!! haha.

Chris
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Azeron

Nov 28, 2009, 7:07 PM
I think that we are both reasonable people. Sometimes we just have to agree to disagree and let it go I suppose. I certainly am not trying to browbeat you about this and maybe I am a little weary of being iPhoneless (or even Vphoneless). It's just if I were in discussion with a grown person about reaching an agreement to make a lot of money together and they walked out over a freaking commercial...I would be stunned. I don't know the ins and outs of this. I just read the rumors and hope that they are true.

http://www.examiner.com/x-9438-SF-Business-Tech-Exam ... »

*Fingers crossed*

I am hoping and wishing.
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Azeron

Nov 28, 2009, 7:18 PM
I don't think Verizon is doing all that well without the iPhone. There is no way that AT&T would have the metrics it has if Verizon were on equal footing with them as far as offering the iPhone. 3.2 million iPhones sold in the third quarter and forty percent of those customers new to AT&T! Am I supposed to believe that none of those new customers were Verizon port outs? These campaigns Verizon has launched are not about gaining new customers so much as persuading their exisiting customers not to jump ship. I don't think the Droid is enough of a reason to stay with Verizon personally. IF they are NOT going to EVER get the iPhone, then I believe they are in trouble. Just one more reason I am handing out my Google number to people rather...
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mellowlen62

Nov 29, 2009, 2:03 PM
I spent some quality time with a Droid today and found it to be a very pleasant experience. When I was playing with one in the store, I wanted to throw it against a wall. But using a friend's today (in the basement of a concrete and brick building) I found it fast, responsive, and precise. It was very easy to navigate and figure out without any real knowledge of Google and, unlike most Verizon touchscreen phones, this one worked well!
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Azeron

Nov 29, 2009, 3:27 PM
I could see going with a V phone. I cannot see getting a Droid when the V phone looks similar with same features and has the video messaging and mifi-like capability as well. Knowing that Verizon is likely delaying approval of this device to get more Droids sold is ALMOST as frustrating as knowing Verizon and Apple are bickering over nonsense when they SHOULD be getting a deal done so we could have a win/win/win (Verizon makes money and retains customers/Apple makes money/VZW customers finally get the iPhone).
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mycool

Nov 30, 2009, 5:13 AM
Azeron said:
I could see going with a V phone. I cannot see getting a Droid when the V phone looks similar with same features and has the video messaging and mifi-like capability as well. Knowing that Verizon is likely delaying approval of this device to get more Droids sold is ALMOST as frustrating as knowing Verizon and Apple are bickering over nonsense when they SHOULD be getting a deal done so we could have a win/win/win (Verizon makes money and retains customers/Apple makes money/VZW customers finally get the iPhone).


more like a win/win/win/LOSE!

I really really don't want the iPhone to come to VZW (yet). I don't care if it's out when the network is fully 4G, but I don't want to share my bandwid...
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Azeron

Nov 30, 2009, 9:19 AM
Ah to have the problem of too many subscribers on one's network. I really don't know that the iphones would affect CDMA in the same way. Is an iPhone more of a hog than a data card or a phone tethering? Let's find out...
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mellowlen62

Nov 29, 2009, 1:57 PM
No, I understand what you're saying. I personally don't care if the iphone ever comes to Verizon, I have never been that impressed with it personally. I guess maybe my feeling is if the negotiations were really under way to bring the iphone to Verizon, then why would Big Red even launch such a vicious campaign against it? That whole thing seems weird to me. Almost as if both sides knew fom the get-go that it wasn't going to happen?
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Azeron

Nov 29, 2009, 11:26 PM
Because you sell what you have today. When I was in sales I never dealt in what we might have next month. I have to make my quota THIS month. Even if Verizon knew they were going to have the iPhone in July, they would still compete against it until 9pm on June 30. It blows my mind that people do not understand that.
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texaswireless

Dec 1, 2009, 9:23 PM
Why exactly would Verizon Wireless want a 3 1/2 year old phone (come Q3 2010)?

Verizon will be first with 4G and Verizon's first iPhone will be a 4G version come 2011.

Look for Verizon to carry other Apple products in 2010, but not an iPhone.
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cwcanty

Dec 1, 2009, 10:42 PM
If you look around the blogosphere lately, there were numerous leaks about a smaller cdma iphone possibly dropping in 2010. All I heard from my sources were that talks have cooled and apple will probably wait till LTE to release a verizon branded iphone.

And the iphone 3GS has not even been out for a year, not 3.5 yrs.

Trust me, people want the iphone. I could switch my entire family to verizon if they had the iphone, but my mother wont leave att due to her love of the device.

Chris
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texaswireless

Dec 1, 2009, 11:23 PM
The iPhone 3GS is the same handset as the 2G iPhone with a couple of enhancements that have been around on numerous other phones for 3+ years. Just because they add a feature that every other phone out there already had doesn't make it "new".
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cwcanty

Dec 1, 2009, 11:50 PM
Ummmm yeah it does.

Go use a iphone 2G and then use a 3GS. My mom has a 2G, My dad has a 3G and my sister has a 3GS. So at thanksgiving I played around with all three. There are noticeable differences between the devices in terms of speed and the 3GS added a better camera and video.

To your point...

How different is the Blackberry bold from the Blackberry 9700?

How different is the Voyager from the Env Touch?

How different is the Dare from the Versa or Chocolate touch?

All cell companies do it, its getting harder and harder to make monumental upgrades on these phones.

Chris
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texaswireless

Dec 2, 2009, 12:01 AM
I have used all 3, many times.

Launch a phone with only 2G when there are numerous 3G devices on the market.

Launch a 3G devices and add the ability to use apps, something that has been around (at that point) for 7+ years.

Launch a 3GS model that maximizes the device to the limitations of the network (because you couldn't push it too hard before) and add things that phones have had for years.

Sorry. There is nothing there to get me excited. And you made my point for me. There is not much difference between the other phones you mentioned so I do not sell them as an upgrade, just a newer model.

The only way to make a big difference would be to make a huge leap in network speeds (and I mean faster than what is on the market no...
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cwcanty

Dec 2, 2009, 12:04 AM
But that doesnt mean that verizon wouldn't sell 2 Million iphones in the first quarter of sales (prolly even more than that). Data is king right now and verizon would be rolling dough if they could get a version of the iphone in their lineup.

Just saying it would be a great "get" for vzw.

Chris
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Azeron

Dec 2, 2009, 4:03 AM
That's an opinion, Tex. Yours...
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Anxiovert

Dec 1, 2009, 11:28 PM
texaswireless said:
Why exactly would Verizon Wireless want a 3 1/2 year old phone (come Q3 2010)?

Verizon will be first with 4G and Verizon's first iPhone will be a 4G version come 2011.
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Whether it's a 3G or 4G iPhone, that phone will still be more than 3 yrs old. I din't get your point there...

When verizon got the BB Curve (even though it was 3G) it was still an old phone...
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texaswireless

Dec 1, 2009, 11:33 PM
Look, homer boy, I don't expect YOU of all people to get my points anymore.

Based on your logic there hasn't been a single new phone since the Nokia 100 was launched. After all they all make wireless phone calls right?
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zentec

Nov 28, 2009, 8:50 AM
I don't believe it. Apple is about the money, and if they can sell more handsets to people willing to part with more money in the app store and iTunes, they'll do it.

There will be an iPhone on Verizon by the end of next year. Apple will be ready for other carriers weeks after the exclusivity contract is over with AT&T.
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cwcanty

Nov 28, 2009, 10:27 AM
You have no clue what apple might do! Much, much, crazier things have happenend in business than this possible situation.

And this was not the sole reason, but it was def a sticking point. Apple has a right to be pissed, Verizon blatantly attached one of their best products. Im sure that is not going to put Apple in the mood to bend over backwards for verizon.
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