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To all you complaining about speed of phone releases...

blue2kzr2

Sep 20, 2007, 7:54 AM
Compared to other carriers. Consider this, GSM is used in more countries than CDMA. If you were a phone manufacturer would you build a phone you can sell in 10 countries first or would you build one that you can only sell in 2? I'd go for the larger market first, wouldn't you?

CHILL OUT! Yes, VZW has a better network, but due to the nature of the wireless industry in other countries, the PHONE MANUFACTURERS are late to the CDMA party with new releases, it's NOT VZW'S fault! Sure, maybe they could push a little harder, but use a little common sense, sometimes it's not VZW's fault that they're second or third to get a new phone. How many BB's does VZW have that there isn't isn't a comparable GSM version that came out first? Not too m...
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Rlest8

Sep 20, 2007, 8:21 AM
Thanks for explaining that. All the fanboys just rave about being the best network then say shut up and go port. It was nice to read an explaination that is sensible.

I think a lot of people are inquiring, not complaining because they want to know when/if/what they can expect in the future.

Again, thanks for your resonable post. What the fanboys forget is that a lot of us reading in here are looking for info, they call it complaining, we are not Verizon reps or even in the industry so it is good to be informative not so defensive and rude like so many of those that work for Verizon and post here.
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robtheman

Sep 20, 2007, 9:08 AM
You really never thought about the GSM vs CDMA population? Wow.
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wombough

Sep 20, 2007, 9:21 AM
that explanation has been given here before people dont' want to take the time to read and research. They rather bitch and complain. It funner then reading and understanding!

However I will play the other side. Japan has new and good phones and release allot and they are the only one in the world yo use FOMA network. ANd moto has no problem making new phones here so that kid of destroys your logic!
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robtheman

Sep 20, 2007, 9:34 AM
Yeah, but who wants a Motorola? I mean...c'mon now. They don't count as new phones.
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wombough

Sep 20, 2007, 10:21 AM
ok samsung releases phones here along with others that release phones in the states to. And moto here are awesome!! I do have to say. ANd you should know I hate motos for CDMA but they make a great WCDMA phone.
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Rlest8

Sep 20, 2007, 2:56 PM
robtheman said:
You really never thought about the GSM vs CDMA population? Wow.



As I said I am not in the industry. While i know GSM is more common that CDMA, no I didn't know if that was just nationally or global.

My point is at that someone took the time give give a reasonable explanation of whay Veerizon's phones are so slow to come not just say "we have the best network, go port, stop bi*ching" and that was a refreshing change. Smile Smile
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robtheman

Sep 20, 2007, 3:15 PM
People have given that explanation countless times.
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Rlest8

Sep 20, 2007, 4:15 PM
That may be true and I do do my "homework" however, I don't spend nearly as much time on this forum as many others apparently do.
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texastim

Sep 20, 2007, 9:22 AM
...case and point, good example of being rude and a SA. Rolling Eyes
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wombough

Sep 20, 2007, 9:41 AM
and also there is about 20 countries that use CDMA not 2!
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Anxiovert

Sep 20, 2007, 9:54 AM
You might want to subtract two from that list. Because just in Venezuela (just like the rest of South America) where the two (only) CDMA carriers are switching to GSM just so they could compete with the only GSM carrier that was in the market. Now there's 3 GSM carriers. Do some research on your own. Here, let me help you. Google Movistar (Colombia, Mexico, Peru, Venezuela) for a quick start; and tell me which platforms they are using. After you get that. Tell me, what phones are they selling? CDMA? nah.... that's right! GSM!
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wombough

Sep 20, 2007, 10:00 AM
I gave an estimate. My point is it doesn't' matter as I said inmy other post. Japan releases new phone all the time and they only carrier on the FOMA network in the WORLD> No there is not another on it anywhere!
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wombough

Sep 20, 2007, 10:02 AM
http://www.primenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=11 ... »

wow that took so long to find I was wrong there isn't 20 some there is over 100 countires now
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wombough

Sep 20, 2007, 10:19 AM
what nothing to say that CDMA is the fastest deployed 3g network in the world. ANd what you said was so wrong! Even GSM carriers are switching to WCDMA. GSM has reached its max potential and there is no 3g option for GSM!
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SystemShock

Sep 20, 2007, 11:18 AM
And yet somehow CDMA remains more popular in the US than big bad GSM. Golly. Cool
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wombough

Sep 20, 2007, 11:23 AM
yeah and its funny how GSM is not able to upgrade to 3g.

here is another good article:
http://www.silicon.com/research/specialreports/trave ... »
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SystemShock

Sep 20, 2007, 11:14 AM
Rlest8 said:
Thanks for explaining that. All the fanboys just rave about being the best network then say shut up and go port.

You're not being told to shut up and port because anyone's a fanboy. I myself have complained about the phone lineup.

You're being told to shut up and port because you complain like a never-ending whiney broken record. There's a diff. Surprised

And since you yourself have said you're porting, one has to wonder why you're crying so much. You're outta here soon anyway.
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Rlest8

Sep 20, 2007, 2:48 PM
Again, chill out. It's okay for you to be a fanboy, just not okay for you to be so rude.
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z34007

Sep 20, 2007, 3:07 PM
"Yeah there are a lot of "dummies" at Verizon!"



I believe thats your quote above. So nobody can be rude, unless its you.
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Rlest8

Sep 20, 2007, 4:24 PM
z34007 said:
"Yeah there are a lot of "dummies" at Verizon!"



I believe thats your quote above. So nobody can be rude, unless its you.



NEW PHONES...PHONES TAHT ACTUALLY WORK
by Lapdog Yesterday, 8:04 AM

The dummy i760 & 6800 are in our store now...live phone soon to follow...



It was a joke, play on words, lighten up! Smile Smile
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z34007

Sep 20, 2007, 8:00 PM
It can still be taken as rude.
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SystemShock

Sep 20, 2007, 5:19 PM
Rlest8 said:
Again, chill out. It's okay for you to be a fanboy, just not okay for you to be so rude.

I'll make a deal with you. You stop being a whiney little b****, and I'll stop being annoyed with you for being a whiney little b****. Mmkay? Rolling Eyes

In the meantime, I have some words for you:

Port
Port-arooski
Portalai
Portilicious
Portarino

...you get the idea. Wink
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BillG

Sep 20, 2007, 9:45 AM
and how many CDMA carriers have the vx6800? Nothing like being aggressive when you know your phone lineup is always late to the party.
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blue2kzr2

Sep 20, 2007, 10:15 AM
From what I heard, VZW turned down the iPhone because Apple wanted too much control over the sale and service of the device. ATT was a pushover and let Apple have their way....
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wombough

Sep 20, 2007, 10:20 AM
att doesn't care about anything then money and subscribers.
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dannysk89

Sep 20, 2007, 2:55 PM
I believe VZW's music service directly conflicts with the entire idea of the iPhone as a whole. That alone is enough for them to turn them down.
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bigredslave

Sep 20, 2007, 3:18 PM
Both answers are correct to me. VZW is the highest revenue generating provider in the U.S. I wouldn't sacrifice that over 1 phone. there will be others who'll come to the dance.
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