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That is like me saying: Im the second of four siblings in my family... But Im first in my moms heart!
WTF? Im still the second child! No matter if I get better grades than my oldest brother. No matter how many more friends than him I have. IM STILL THE SECOND CHILD!!!
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Why did you post this in its own thread instead of responding to the post you linked? You may be the first in your mom's heart, but you still ride the short bus.
Really though, what's the point of this thread other than trying to start a flame war of fan boys?
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Right on Robtheman! Toot toot! ๐คค
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because the original post had nothing to do with what he brought up.
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And it looks like you succeeded admirably...
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Actually those two things are very different. You can never change that fact that something was first. Something being number 1 can however change. The number ones always come and go but a first born or first to do anything will always be the first. Nice try though.
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No one will be number one in wireless. Unless there is only 1. 60 some think verizon and att is number one. 53 million think sprint is. 20 some thin tmobile. 13 think alltel. Get what I am saying. If everyone thought verizon was number one "overall" then they would have around 200 million subscribers!
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ATT is #1 in overall customers.
VZW is #1 in postpaid customers.
VZW is #1 in revenue.
VZW is #1 in customer loyalty (low churn).
I guess it depends in how you choose to look at it. ๐
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#1 in enrollment of Remedial Geography 101
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Sure... just like you're ATT's #1 fanboi, Tex. ๐
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#1 in enrollment of street hood rats.
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that would be Boost Mobile...
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Ok I asked this before and got no answer. So what if they are really number 1. What do you get out of it? Do you get paid? Or if you work for them paid more? Do you get better service? (depends on were you live) Do you get better prices? (hell no they are the most expensive). My point is you get nothing even if they are number one. You may get a less since they are number one. Because they don't have to do anything as long as they are their. New phones. Changes in service prices, ect.
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wombough said: Do you get paid?
Yes, as a matter of fact I do.
Or if you work for them paid more?
UMMM Yes, More revenue makes a good 02/28
Employees know what this is.
Do you get better service? (depends on were you live)
I would say yes. The more revenue we get the more we would put back into the network as we have in the past.
Do you get better prices? (hell no they are the most expensive).
I will Give you this one, lol
So anyways how is Japan?
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you work for them. It was more for all these people that do not! And if you do you got me on that as you may get paid more but I don't think you get paid that much more then your counterparts with the other companies.
And verizon has not spent the most money on their network and you can't dispute that. But your right they can use more money for that if they make more. I think if they were able to buy vodafone it would help.
I am not knocking verizon they are great but so are the others in areas too. There is no clear number one as some will lead you to believe.
Japan is pretty good. I will tell you from first hand experience japan is not that far ahead of us in cell phones. And as far as networks go even closer.
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How is the network out there. how do you call into customer service?
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I get dropped calls here and there just like the states. But its not bad. The video calling is pretty nice. And the speed in say in toyko is like 3mbs. They have a English speaking customer service dept just like we have Spanish. English is bigger then you think here!
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AT&T has spent more but their network performs worse in most areas according to most testing/polling that has been done.
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if testing a pooling were right then people would be leaving them in droves. That is not the case. All of the carriers are at a churn of 2.0 or less I believe for the 2nd quarter!
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and verizon wireless was at 0.85 retail postpay churn a number that ATT has never even gotten at all close to, so give it a rest.
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no because if they were number one their churn would be like close to 0 and att would be 5.0 as all the others.
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number one doesnt mean perfect retard it means better then the others.
0.85 > 1.2 or whatever att had
stop wasting my time with this pathetic bs you keep posting.
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I can't waste your time. I would call you names but this a forum and I see how dumb (damn I just said I wasn't going to call you a name) can be! You do that by reading and replying. And you miss my point so when you can come to a adult level and not just see one wa about verizon then let me know and we can have a real conversation!
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How do you rate a number one? Let see... take all the categories you can classify a major retail business.... revenue, churn, net adds. Interesting how VZW is no 1 in all those categories.
To the person who said that ATT spends more money on their network. I would imagine numbers aren't too far off. The ONLY way this is true would be because ATT needs more towers to support the call capacity. Who cares who number one is? Please, tell me who the number one cable company is.... have yet to see one and thats been around for decades.
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Cable that is easy. Time Warner is number one as in most subscribers, and most everything else with comcast a close second.
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dude, you're definately smoking something. Time Warner is a good company, but they are nowhere near the #1.
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Lets use the smae logic as you did with verizon. Most subscribers. most channels offered. In the most markets. What else does it take to be number one. Oh they have the most most money!
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vzw is #1....take away PRE PAID customers from the equation and SPrint has more customers than AT&T. PRE PAID is not what this company is looking for, its the CONTRACTS and the COMMITMENT.
Plus churn ratio, which VZW smokes everyone. Keep convincing yourself elsewise, but Consumer Reports has ranked us #1 every year for 5 years running.....thats the final say so in the world of buisness .
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so you admit that verizon wireless gets better grades and has more friends then cingular. Thats a start atleast.. Eventually you will realize the full truth.
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and what is that? Really damn I can't get it for the life of me. Verizon is not the best choice for everyone. They are not everywhere nor are they great in every place they are. Same for all the others!
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vzw is not the best everywhere thats true but they are better in more areas then any of the competitors.
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and who said that? Have you personal tried them in every place? I have a unique situation and anyone in the military. You have the most people that you go places with that have so many different carriers. I am sorry verizon is not the highest performer in all the places I have gone to. Don't mean much because no I haven't checked everywhere But I have seen first hand in allot of places!
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you att employees are in such denial you keep argueing saying that in some areas your better, well I would hope so. Its pretty much widely accepted that Verizon Wireless has the best national voice and data network and we have been saying it for 6 years and no one really disputes it other then employees and super hardcore fanboys.
Verizon Wireless has far more backing then any other company to claim the best network and the majority of the population feel/agree that VZW has the best voice/data network on a national scale.
You can argue it all you want but We have already won the argument where it really matters, In the court of public opinion.
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well around 120 million people disagree so whatever. I am NOT an employee of att and I hate GSM! Verizon is pretty good in voice but half they have great call quality due to 1900 and other half great signal in buildings due to 800. Data sorry sprint wins here and always will. They spend to much yes too much and neglect other things I think. Wimax will deploy soon and will change wireless if you say no you are in denial and I am sure verizon has a plan for this as they keep allot of things secret until it happens!
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Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. I live in SC and spring doesn't even have high speed internet access in ANY cities here. They consistently throw phones out on the market without thoroughly testing them which leads to poor reviews. Wimax isn't crap and PCS is NOT the way to go. Verizon is currently preparing for FiOS, which utilizes the Fiber Optic network similar to the options provided for EV-DO cell sites and will easily dominate the wireless high speed market. Prices aren't bad at all.
Back to the issue at hand. I'm not sure who the crazy guys is who posted Verizon isn't number one... I don't remember anyone ever saying they were (besides perhaps J.D. Power). What I have noticed is shady or misleading claims in the ind...
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DUDE fios has nothign to do with wireless. Its all landline. Why you ask most towers are fiber already. However fiber is not going to get the data to your handset. And wimax has more speed then any wireless technoligy out there!
ATT yeah its full of crap.
Sprint does have the largest calling area. And data! They cover the most people. Its a fact.
Alltel does not advertise anything false. They give facts to. Largest network, mycircle, anytime plan changes without renewing contract.
Verizon doesnt snoop to that leval. Hmm what is the most realiable network claim? That can be proven as well as ATT's claim!
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ATT's claim can not be proven... anyone can pay an independent researcher to give them what they paid for.
Altell backhandedly slaps all the other carriers in every promotion. While we all think it's funny, it is very misleading. Alltel wasn't even rated in a lot of national ratings because their company isn't consider a major player (which is why they are on the market right now).
Verizon's claim is by no means misleading. They have the backing of consumer reports and J.D. power just to name a few.
Back to the originaly post about FiOS. It is all landline and has to do with broadband wireline service. What you will eventually see is a unified version of wireless internet, phone, landline, and cable service. In 3-5 years, cable will...
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ok just a few questions because I am done talking about VZW is the best or not with a bunch of brainwashed people. How is verizon going to broadcast this super fast fios connection mobile? EVDO I certainly hope not that is like broadcast a OC3 connection with dial up lmao.
Cable is not going to run for the hills. Verison is only got Fios in I think 2 states and not everywere its is way expensive. Cable will be going to DCOIS 3.0 here soon. Speeds and capisty online with FIOS. They also have another option. Don't broadcast every channel at once and only do it when you request it. Doing that will slow up when the channel apears but free up ungodly amount of bandwidth since one hd challel takes 45 to 60mbps and a digital channel takes abou...
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I would love to see cable change as quickly as wireless does. The problem with cable is that technology becomes available and it takes YEARS to migrate to that new technology. How long have we been talking about HD alone? FiOS has a ton of HD channels (just saw the brochure yesterday). The verizon wireless network does not use the FiOS technology. They currently use the ev-do (soon to migrate to ev-dv). What I was suggesting was simply this. Verizon communications has made it very clear that they intend to merge completely and form one unity. This has not been announced, but simply acknowledged by the restructuring of chief officers. FiOS is only in a handful of cities, but in the next 3 years, it will be as widespread as the wireless broad...
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wombough said:
But anyway this conversation was entertaining but you verizon people are way to brainwashed well only a few of you.
Its funny, I work for VZW but i am also a realist. I understand the strengths and weaknesses of every company...even my own.
Its funny to see people defend VZW like a little girl in a slap fight. (No offense ladies)
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sprint uses us for their data speeds, so if you claim sprint is better in data wombough then you just admitted as well that Verizon is just as good since Sprint thrives off our towers for those connections.
sorry.
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your smoking something now please show me that. They both have a mutual agreement on 1xrtt data to roam with each other but they do not allow one another to use each others EVDO!!
Please know a little something before you write!
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wow
your dumb, why dont you just call them and find out for urself...smoking something....the only thing smoking here is the top of your head because brain cells are burning up trying to keep up with intellectual conversation.....Sprint/Nextel has BEEN sharing evdo off verizon for years.Thats something even sprint employees could tell you .
nub
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no they don't they signed a 1xrtt agreement just last year. Alltel and sprint are the only ones sharing their evdo network! You call them I already know.
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alltell is verizon, they live off of us, they will tell you that as well.
your seriously clueless
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no you are clueless alltel may in states that they don't have serivice. They have the largest network per square miles. So in rural areas on places like havelock nc were verizon doesn't have enough towers they live off alltel.
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oh and I will give the reason why verizon doesn't' allow sharing of EVDO. they will not give true unlimited Data to their customers you think they will allow roaming on them for free. Hell no!
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Well i think we can all now clearly agree that Verizon is number 1 !!!!!
don't worry midnight wom is kinda hopeless, don't hold it against him though he is a good cat ๐
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No I will never agree. As I said they are all pretty =. They all have their strong point and week points. It is all who works best for you and who works best in the location you will be using them in!
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Wom, overall verizon is the best. They're bo no far the best in EVERY market, we'll all agree on that. But can you seriously say that a single company provides the best service for ANY other industry??? Please, this pissing contest is over.
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its never over but I am tired of aruguing with people that are in love with a wireless carrier and see black when someone wants to say other then all hail verizon!
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wombough said:
its never over but I am tired of aruguing with people that are in love with a wireless carrier and see black when someone wants to say other then all hail verizon!
..or that someone so vigorously argues against said carrier that it appears to be more jealousy than simply providing an alternative point of view.
Instead of cryptic junk like I said above, I'll get to the point; you spend way to much time arguing about Verizon. It's odd. I agree with your previous points that each carrier has geographical strength and that some carriers have been shoring up the gaps that Verizon once was a clear leader in (T-Mobile with Customer Service and at&t with network issues.) No doubt that big red is ...
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Its fun to debate. I don't care either way what people think. It doesn't effect me or my decisions. I have said before I have had a hpne since 1992 since the days of bell atlantic mobile and nynex. Woo Nynex thats a name I havent pulle oput in a while ๐คฃ . Anyway no one to me pulls ahead as a clear winner is my point. Its my thought and that is it. Its fun to discus it though. Like I said I have had around 15 carriers in the years. 3/4 no longer exist. For a reason. Now we are down to the best of the business and that is a fact! Yeah there are still local carriers in counties. For the one that will say that. I am talking liek Compaines like powertel (were on that) sorry I still love that saying. There was at one point many many regeni...
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Once again you said nothing! ๐
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No its called you don't listen. Unless someone agrees with you!
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IMO, I don't think anyone wants to be the clear outright sole provider as #1... look what that got ATT in the landline business... a monopoly ๐
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Verizon Wireless has more retail subscribers than AT&T, this means more people choose to carry a Verizon Wireless phone than any other carrier.
What part of allowing more MVNOs makes AT&T number one again?
You think all those people on tracphones that are running on AT&T network have any idea they are even using the AT&T network?
Verizon Wireless doesnt like MVNOs too much, thus they dont get the inflated numbers.
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wow, who's cleaning under the bridges this week, all the trolls are coming out...
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This is just a "whos dick is bigger contest"
Regardless of what carrier you have, wheather it be Cingy, Sprint, TMob, or VZW, if it works for you, then thats all that matters.
I have Verizon, its works great for me.
My buddy has Cingy, it works great for him.
I dont own VZW, or Cingy, or Sprint, or Tmob, so why the hell would I care "Who is #1", my phone works good for me, thats all that matters.
It's time to grow up people.
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That is really what I am trying to say. I don't think anyone is better then the other and its all what you need and were you live!!!
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True true but OVERALL verizon is still the best carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cellenator said:
True true but OVERALL verizon is still the best carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd have to agree with that. Their customer loyalty/churn rates are the best in the biz for a reason. ๐
Now if I could just get over this flu that has me stuck in bed... โน๏ธ
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SystemShock said:
Cellenator said:
True true but OVERALL verizon is still the best carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd have to agree with that. Their customer loyalty/churn rates are the best in the biz for a reason. ๐
Now if I could just get over this flu that has me stuck in bed... โน๏ธ
I completely agree, hope you feel better ๐
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Dang...the flu in the middle of the summer...those bugs really suck. Get better man.
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You are just saying that because mine is bigger then yours...
j/k LOL
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How about some proof? ;)
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I dont think your are, but please tell me your a chick.
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Ah........Oh well, I dont think any different of ya. ๐
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