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Poor Signal in Metal Buildings

jmnsctt

May 18, 2009, 10:52 PM
I was wondering if anyone else has had a problem with poor reception inside a metal building. I have been in Costco, Walgreens, Wal-Mart, Starbucks and on and have no reception. My coverage area is great according to Boost reps and their coverage maps. While in the stores I have tried powering my phone off and on, tried removing the battery and then powering back on and still have no service. Im not meaning low signal strength, i mean NO service.... Has anyone had this problem or know of a way to fix it? Please Help...
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Jefrench15

May 20, 2009, 1:14 PM
you dont have service because Boost doesnt have indoor coverage. get a real carrier like Verizon or At&t and you wont have that problem
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furcifer

Jun 2, 2009, 1:06 AM
Really, you mean all of a sudden I will get service inside COSTCO with Verizon when I previously never had service in there before?

LOL, just because it is Verizon or AT&T doesn't mean you will have service inside.
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Jefrench15

Jun 2, 2009, 1:44 PM
I am not saying you wont have dropped calls inside big ass buildings, but you will have better coverage than any other provider because Verizon and AT&T are the only two service providers that offer indoor coverage, if you knew anything about the wireless industry you would know that... dummy
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furcifer

Jun 2, 2009, 10:47 PM
Really... are you serious? Maybe it is time to pull out some statements made by some CEO's.

"It's rediculous to expect reception in homes, office buildings & elevators." from CEO of Verizon

http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/17/verizon-ceo-think ... »

and

This is what AT&t is telling their customers.

AT&T says their service doesn't work in buildings

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=557542 »
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texmarvin

Sep 9, 2009, 8:34 PM
also,Boost uses 800 mhz radio waves and att/tmobile/vzw etc use 1900 mhz which in general provides better building coverage not perfect just better i had no boost service in my local wallyworld but in the same wal mart i got all bars with t mobile but as they say in the disclaimers...
"your results will vary"
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jrfdsf

Sep 10, 2009, 4:43 PM
texmarvin said:
also,Boost uses 800 mhz radio waves and att/tmobile/vzw etc use 1900 mhz which in general provides better building coverage not perfect just better i had no boost service in my local wallyworld but in the same wal mart i got all bars with t mobile but as they say in the disclaimers...
"your results will vary"

Actually, the reverse is true. The higher the frequency, the worse the penetration.
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tainted

Sep 17, 2009, 6:27 PM
Actually, If you have a US CELLULAR service in your area, their phones do work indoors. I used to work there and They NEVER had dropped calls indoors. I heard it from Customers all the time. It was a great sales tool too. Whenever I was in Walmart, the Hardware store etc... I would hand my phone to a person that was having service issues and they would see how much better our service was. I made a lot of money that way.
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cellphonesaretools

Sep 17, 2009, 10:48 PM
Glad to hear that US Cellular has good in-building coverage where you are. But if so, it is only because of the way they built out their network, carefully choosing antenna sites for good overlap between cells, and/or possibly offering to install in-building repeaters inside malls, large popular stores like WalMart, etc.

None of the wireless providers can get around the basic physics of radio-frequency electromagnetic waves and the attenuation of those waves, so the smart ones invest in their networks with plenty of cell sites, intelligently placed, then maintain them well. That's the ONLY magic to having a good wireless network, regardless of the signal frequency.
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jrfdsf

Sep 18, 2009, 4:22 PM
cellphonesaretools said:
Glad to hear that US Cellular has good in-building coverage where you are. But if so, it is only because of the way they built out their network, carefully choosing antenna sites for good overlap between cells, and/or possibly offering to install in-building repeaters inside malls, large popular stores like WalMart, etc.

None of the wireless providers can get around the basic physics of radio-frequency electromagnetic waves and the attenuation of those waves, so the smart ones invest in their networks with plenty of cell sites, intelligently placed, then maintain them well. That's the ONLY magic to having a good wireless network, regardless of the signal frequency.

Agreed.
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rudyking

Sep 2, 2009, 7:33 AM
Um, lets see. You have a radio aka phone in a big metal and brick building at you can't get service or barely any service?

Unless there's a tower next door or the store has a repeater, most likely you are going to get little to no service. When I sold wireless phones at Wal-Mart, Cigular (GSM) would work fine because the tower was right next door. Sprint(CDMA) hardly ever worked because of the building, no local towers, and no repeaters. Even Boost(Iden) had trouble working.

Remember, the most stuff you got blocking your phone (metal, brick...), the less of a signal you will get.
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cellphonesaretools

Sep 13, 2009, 6:42 AM
Anyone who says that Boost (i.e. Nextel iDEN) "doesn't have coverage in buildings" has no understanding whatsoever of physics, or even basic technology, so don't believe anything they say in this matter, ever.

The overriding parameter is distance from the tower/antenna. In THEORY, 850 MHz signals can penetrate physical barriers better than 1900 MHz signals, but as a practical matter that point of physics is vastly overwhelmed by tower/antenna placement and distance from the antenna to the user's handset.

It sounds like the original poster might also have a handset that is either a poor design (inherently a weak model) or perhaps a broken unit. With my Nextel service the i560 handset was comparatively weak in terms of signal reception, ...
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acdc1a

Sep 17, 2009, 11:33 AM
"Don't listen to the "Verizon zombies" that will tell you that Verizon has coverage everywhere..."

That's exactly right. Where I live I can't use Verizon to save my life. Sprint, Metro PCS, and T-Mobile (all known for being lesser quality) all do better for me. We use Sprint for our personal lines and Metro for my business.
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