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Verizon Buying US Celluar?

DSFB407

Mar 14, 2005, 10:34 AM
Why is it that US Celluar does not allow Verizon to run certain features on its network? Basic things such as sending pictures and running their push to talk as well are not acessable while you are on the US Celluar network even though they are roaming partners. Does anyone know why this is? My opinion Verizon should just buy them out so that it gives both companies great perks and on the consumer side it makes things that much better. Any info will be great, thanks.
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DDA

Mar 14, 2005, 12:06 PM
Its not the US Cellular doesn't allow, its that US Cellular isn't able.

USCC doesn't even have its own PTT released yet, so why would the be able to let a simple Verizion customer to? Also we dont' even know if their PTT networks are going to be compatable.

The ability to send pictures requires access to the Get It Now network. If you aren't on the network, then you aren't able to send pictures. It is that simple, period.

Lastly if Verizion tried to buy out USCC, the FCC would have a fit. There are just too many areas where they are the only options for cellular service.
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justpeachy

Mar 14, 2005, 12:29 PM
Amen. Not only that, but US Cellular is not for sale. 🙄 Why do people think that it's so easy for one company to just up and buy another???
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SPCSVZWJeff

Mar 14, 2005, 8:11 PM
Because many companies are heavily owned by institutional investors they are easy prey.
USCC is not for sale and since the majority of their stock is owned by one family it would stand to reason that buying them is impossible unless that family agrees.
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fincher

Mar 15, 2005, 7:51 AM
The FCC would indeed have a fit but anything is possible.

I think USCC and Verizon get along quite well. Verizon needs USCC but doesn't need to own it. Eventually, you will be able to send MMS across both carrier's networks. And, I for one, think USCC will launch its PTT around the same time as Verizon because Verizon will want its PTT to work everywhere and USCC will be a big help.
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guitarman21

Apr 18, 2005, 12:26 AM
Any company is for sale for the right price, especially if it is public (all you have to do is buy a large portion of the stock).
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trucksmoveamerica

Apr 18, 2005, 1:05 AM
They just dont understand that. Anything is for sale in this country for a price, period. It dont matter if one family owns most the stock or not, heck, that could make it easier for someone to buy USCC, all they have to do is line the pockets of the family with lots of cash, and now another company owns USCC.

Come on people, this is the United States, money talks, and if someone has enough of it, you buy it....
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waywith

Apr 18, 2005, 7:08 AM
I think the family that owns US Cellular (and TDS, their corporate parent) is more interested in operating a Wireless company and having a great reputation, than they are in money, per se. They already have plenty of money.

Money means a lot, but it is not everything. You think people run for President of the USA for the MONEY?

Not saying USC won't eventually merge with somebody else, but it is not going to be soon, in my judgement.

-way
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trucksmoveamerica

Mar 15, 2005, 10:58 AM
the best thing that could happen to uscc is someone to buy them, or I should say to the USCC customers.
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USCC Agent

Mar 15, 2005, 11:08 AM
trucksmoveamerica said:
the best thing that could happen to uscc is someone to buy them, or I should say to the USCC customers.



Why?
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trucksmoveamerica

Mar 15, 2005, 12:17 PM
WHY???

why do you think, increase your calling area. I guess if you are a person that never leaves town, USCC is probably a little cheaper on the local plans. But, majority of the people using cell phones want to use their cell phones away from home, when they take their family vacation in the summer, when they goto grandma's house in colorado for christmas, or when they go snowmobiling in colorado they want their phone to work like when they are at home, verizon, cingular does that for their customers. You cant tell me that people want to be regulated how to use their phones like USCC does, maybe that is why USCC has 6 million customers and cingular and verizon have over 40 million customers, heck, Alltel even has 20 millions customer...
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brettrules05

Mar 15, 2005, 2:53 PM
You have to remember, US Cellular reach approx 6 million customers all alone. We didn't have to merge with multiple companies to reach that status. I don't believe US Cellular regulates how customer's use service. We do offer national plans for customers if they wish to travel. We also provide fantastic customer service! Why would you want to give this up!!
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Badibada

Mar 15, 2005, 9:52 PM
well wut about the merger with primeco about 3 4 years ago.
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brettrules05

Mar 16, 2005, 8:50 AM
you're right .. my bad!!
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zeronite

Apr 28, 2005, 6:39 AM
That merger gained us approximately 350,000 customers primarily in the Chicagoland area.

It was mainly so we could have a local footprint Where our Corp Offices are.
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silvabullit

Mar 15, 2005, 4:15 PM
next time you take your family on vacation, or go to grandmas house, leave the cell phone off except for emergencies. You will have a more enjoyable vacation.
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maximus2

Mar 16, 2005, 10:28 AM
silvabullit said:
next time you take your family on vacation, or go to grandmas house, leave the cell phone off except for emergencies. You will have a more enjoyable vacation.


LOL. Amen brother. But in reality, I know I'd have mine on. By the way, I love USCC, but I'd love it even more if it got bought out by Verizon cuz then we'd have even more phones to pick from. Also, I would assume the towers from both companies would automatically work with my current USCC plan. Awesome.
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DDA

Mar 16, 2005, 11:23 AM
actually, you'd be forced to switch your plans, so that would be bad. However if Verizion started offering free incomming calls, it might be a good thing.
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maximus2

Mar 16, 2005, 11:40 AM
DDA said:
actually, you'd be forced to switch your plans, so that would be bad. However if Verizion started offering free incomming calls, it might be a good thing.


We'd prolly be grandfathered-in with our present plan. Would all the USCC towers PLUS all the Verizon towers then suddenly work??
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justpeachy

Mar 16, 2005, 12:48 PM
how can anyone have an answer for that? Take a look at Cingular and AT&T- my friend who works for AT&T (now Cingular) says that as soon as the merger took place his service dropped terribly- he was losing reception and dropping calls all over the place. so it would depend on the carrier and what they wanted to do.

anyhow, obviously your problem is that Verizon's network isn't up to par. This would be a moot discussion if Verizon offered you the service that USCC did. I think it's hilarious that you basically want Verizon to be like USCC yet you bash USCC at every turn. USCC doesn't meet your needs. Fine. Get over it.
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m0nsterzer0

Mar 26, 2005, 11:04 AM
Of course it's a fellow G-Dubber that says it best!

AMEN!! 😎
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jerry 12

Mar 28, 2005, 4:57 PM
i bet that verizon would not put as many towers as uscc does in a area.in eastern nc verizon does not have any towers. ☚ī¸ ☚ī¸
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waywith

Mar 28, 2005, 5:37 PM
jerry 12 said:
i bet that verizon would not put as many towers as uscc does in a area.in eastern nc verizon does not have any towers. ☚ī¸ ☚ī¸


Understandable, since they don't own any licenses to serve that area!

-way
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jerry 12

Mar 28, 2005, 6:03 PM
i hope it stays that way. 😡
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bjoyensnightmare

Mar 29, 2005, 10:34 PM
please will all of you stop with this nonsense about us cellular being bought up by some other carrier. this is not going to happen, at least not anytime during this decade. us cellular has far too many exciting things that are going to be taking place here shortly, those of which i care not to share because of what thesmrtguy said about honoring us cellular's ceo's request to keep informtion confidential until it is actually time to release it to the rest of the general public. at first, i did not agree with him because things are leaked out all of the time, but his point is extremely valid.

i think that us cellular staying put can be confirmed by the recent data released by the consumers union concerning customer complaints in the chic...
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bk77

Mar 30, 2005, 12:14 PM
I agree
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trucksmoveamerica

Mar 30, 2005, 3:34 PM
I disagree.... đŸ¤Ŗ
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athens

Mar 30, 2005, 11:07 PM
I seem to recall John Rooney having been quoted by the Chicago Tribune as having stated that he would do "anything it took" to increase the value of USCC (USM) stock. The article was published some time in early January, if I am not incorrect. (In November, I had just signed up with USCC after 13 satisfied years at Verizon (Ameritech).

Mr. Rooney, as the CEO of USCC, has an absolute and foremost duty to USCC shareholders and its board of directors to make certain he does all that is legitimately within his authority to increase the value of USCC shares for short as well as long-term.

Therefore, if it would be of substantial benefit to USM share value to make the majority shares palatable to another wireless carrier, the Board of Direc...
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bk77

Mar 31, 2005, 11:57 AM
I'm sorry athens, I know you have to be a great guy, but can you please speak in lamens terms instead of laywer talk. We are normal people here, we do not need all the "Big" words. Cause I don't understand a word you are saying.

Jack Rooneys number one priority is USCC. But common, do you really think he is going to sell when the company is doing so well?

I think you took that statement out of text. The "anything it took" one. He will, he wants to run a company with the highest customer satisfaction, and employee satisfaction. He works everyday trying to be better at what he does. Not looking around at different companies that he can sell USCC to.

Like most laywers do, isn't it your job to pick every little thing apart tha...
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maximus2

Mar 31, 2005, 12:25 PM
You, and I have no facts to prove our points, and that is okay.

(I know I am going to regret this! 🙂
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Don't regret saying what you honestly feel. If everyone turns on you, then you probably made a correct analysis. Stick up for yourself when you know you're right. 😁
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bk77

Mar 31, 2005, 12:47 PM
😁 🙂
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trucksmoveamerica

Mar 31, 2005, 1:02 PM
Dont regret what you say, everyone has an opinion, and which one is right, who knows, time will only tell that.

AS far as what you said: Jack Rooneys number one priority is USCC. But common, do you really think he is going to sell when the company is doing so well?

The answer to that question is probably yes, that is when you sell, when your company is worth the most, that way you walk away with them most money you can. USCC is a regional carrier, and a good regional carrier, but, like it or not, national coverage is what most people want, they want to use their phones when, where, and how they want when they do leave the home territory, making it hard for regional companies to stay alive, so, it would be in Rooney's best interest to ...
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bk77

Mar 31, 2005, 1:58 PM
Jack Rooney is not that kind of man. He is not the kind of person who will sell when the dollar is high. I have worked under him for almost 4 years, and have never seen that kind of person. His personal/business ethics are higher than that.
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fincher

Mar 31, 2005, 3:00 PM
USCC will be spreading national plans with no roaming to other markets beginning on April 3. The Chicago market was the first to have these plans and it was a successful start.

I was a Verizon user for over 7 years going back to when Jack Rooney was with Ameritech Cellular. I still love Verizon but USCC's plans save me big $$ and I don't pay for roaming when I do travel. The service has been excellent.

Verizon has no interest in USCC. There's no point in buying USCC even though both companies work together -- USCC provides a lot of coverage Verizon's AC plans in markets where Verizon does not have licenses. That's not to say one day it might happen...just not now.
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bk77

Mar 31, 2005, 4:06 PM
I 100% agree.
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trucksmoveamerica

Mar 31, 2005, 4:19 PM
I am not saying that verizon is the one to buy USCC, if I was a betting man, I would be watching Alltel, and when Alltel buys USCC, then verizon will be noticing them and have an interest....we will wait and see what happens...Like I said, if USCC is coming out with a national plan that is decent, then they may be able to compete, we will see....
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justpeachy

Mar 31, 2005, 4:59 PM
Yeah? Then come in sometime after Sunday and see what we're offering. 🙂
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gandalf1

Mar 31, 2005, 5:20 PM
justpeachy said:
Yeah? Then come in sometime after Sunday and see what we're offering. 🙂

Hi again Peaches. I'm currently on a month-to-month basis with USCC while I'm waiting for the 6255i to come out. Sounds like I'm gonna gat a better plan in a week from now than I would've got today. At least that's what I infer from your message. Am I correct. The gossip seems to be that I'll be getting a national plan for the same $$ and same minutes as what I'd get today with the local plan. Any comments?
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justpeachy

Mar 31, 2005, 6:15 PM
Not the same minutes as local, but waaaay better than our current SpanAmerica offerings- very competitive with Verizon's America's Choice plans. 😁
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trucksmoveamerica

Apr 1, 2005, 2:10 PM
I will check the website out monday and see what it says..

about time they come out with something close to verizon's americas choice plan, but, I will have to wait and see about the 50% rule, and if they include minnesota.

If they keep the call me minutes and get better coverage, I would sign up with both companies to have the call me minutes.
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trucksmoveamerica

Apr 1, 2005, 3:02 PM
I agree, I did some checking into this, the spanAmerica is going to be waaaaay better. But, what I found, is not very competitive with verizon. You still have the 50% rule, can only use the promo minutes in the same area as now. I will keep this quiet, as I agree that it needs to be kept that way till USCC feels like releasing the info. All I will say, is if you dont use your phone as a national plan now, or wont be, sign up now, the features that are free now, will not be free monday.....and you cant have the 2 features together, one or the other....But, if you want a national plan, then the wait till monday will be worth it, at least according to what I found out. This is a good move for USCC, they should have done it long time ago, l...
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justpeachy

Apr 1, 2005, 3:20 PM
These plans are not targeting the constant traveler. We are still targeting customers who mostly use local minutes but who want the added simplicity of having a nationwide plan for when they travel on vacation, etc. for the vast majority of people, who don't travel all the time, this is a fantastic plan.
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trucksmoveamerica

Apr 1, 2005, 3:39 PM
I agree with that, this is a huge step for USCC, congrats.
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browneyes21

Apr 23, 2005, 2:33 PM
I could not find any info out on either Cingular or Verizon's website about a 50% rule but I do know that there are other major carriers who have the same conditions on roaming such as SprintPCS. And why shouldn't they? If a customer is roaming off-network more than half the time, then obviously their home carrier does not suit their needs and the home carrier would be eating roaming out the wazoo! Also, the 50% rule states that the customer has to exceed this rule for at least 3 months before being terminated from service and then it would be up to the carrier and not just an automatic termination.
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athens

Mar 31, 2005, 8:16 PM
bk77, Did you see my follow up?

You have nothing to regret.

A corporate officer's fiduciary duty is an absolute responsibility he has to act in the best interest of the shareholders.

Only the Board of Directors of USCC has the power to hire or fire Jack Rooney or any other officer. They pay his salary. His sole job is to make USCC profitable so that the value of USCC shares increases and possibly dividends are paid. By the same token, the Board of Directors, who are elected by the shareholders, have an absolute duty to act in the best interest of the shareholders.

Even if every USCC employee thinks John Rooney is the best person to work for, if the Board of Directors wants him out, because he has not fulfilled his duty to the Boa...
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bk77

Mar 31, 2005, 10:02 PM
Athens-

I really respect all that you just wrote. It really did have informaitve info. Thank you.
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athens

Mar 31, 2005, 10:34 PM
bk77

As always you are quite welcome.

One thing I have been able to discern about USCC as a new customer is that employees, such as yourself, do create a feeling of being part of a large family in the American heartland.

In that respect I hope USCC sticks around for a long time.

Besides, I rather like seeing the USCC sign perched atop the Bryn Mawr Ave. Chicago HQ. from my office window.
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bk77

Apr 1, 2005, 12:49 PM
I have never seen the sign before, but would love for it to stick around too. 😁
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athens

Mar 30, 2005, 11:28 PM
Also it would be worth noting more frequent recent speculation about Telephone & Data Systems possible sale of its majority stake in USCC in the Chicago Tribune. See Chicago Tribune Business Section, March 23, 2005 (culled from Bloomberg News)

Here's the link:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-050323032 ... »

By the way, from my office in Chicago, I can see the USCC sign atop the Corporate HQ. just across the Kennedy Expressway. Many of the corporate signs on the high rise buildings in the O'Hare Corridor, where we are located, have changed with some frequency over the years. Even the name on our building changed just over a year ago.
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