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fireman6433

Jan 4, 2010, 7:28 AM
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So should i give up on ever getting a new Nokia with US cellular??

I love my service but am starting to consider switching all because i want a nokia. I have had several other phones but the only ones i ever liked where Nokia.

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phonenerd24

Jan 8, 2010, 12:08 AM
the reason uscellular doesnt carry nokia phones anymore is because Nokia got rid of their CDMA cellphone devision, then i presume outsourced it to another company in which the quality was not as high as before. so uscellular tried to get 2 handsets last year and they both failed horribly so they gave up on Nokia for now.

thats the answer i have gotten.
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mobilemadness

Jan 10, 2010, 1:20 AM
Yet, somehow, Kyocera and Samsung pass testing everytime? 😕 I think it has to do with the fact that easyedge doesn't work correctly with Nokia phones. It can't be from lack of call quality. Nokias are solid phones with reception.
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8091nafsbuc

Jan 22, 2010, 1:23 AM
Let's get one thing straight... US Cellular did not give up on Nokia. Nokia decided to shift it's focus towards producing phones geared towards GSM networks.

The portion about having 2 phones fail testing is true; however, they were both entry level phones and US Cellular didn't lose much by not adding them to their lineup.

Open dialogue still exists with Nokia and US Cellular. Hopefully (and hopefully soon), this will lead to Nokia being added back to the lineup.
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drksyde

Feb 5, 2010, 9:20 AM
According to a recent C Call I was on, Nokia is not interested in dealing with US Cellular at this time do to the small size of the company. This is also true of Apple regarding the iPhone. US Cellular has approached both. Sorry for that news.
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tastesfunny85

Apr 17, 2010, 1:55 PM
The reason nokia does not make cdna phones anymore is because they were sued by quallcom for using their chipset without permision. You are correct that we have tested nokia's since but the nokia's tested were outsourced through Pantech and failed testing horribly. It is true that we have been trying to get nokia back for years however the size of our company is not why we have not carried the pantech models, they just didn't pass testing. In the next coming years all the providers in europe and america will be switching to LTE (4g) and with this you will probably see the return of nokia.
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tastesfunny85

Apr 17, 2010, 3:55 PM
Once all the carriers switch from cdma and gsm to LTE in late 2011 to 2012 you will see nokia return to norht america they won't be able to continue relying on just their gsm when 70 million potential customers can't purchase their equipment.
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Santi

Jan 27, 2010, 5:08 PM
I love Nokia with all my heart and am pissed at USC for not getting new ones. I recently went with the LG Bliss after my Nokia 6265 and I desperately want to go back.
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chansonion

Apr 19, 2010, 11:04 AM
Read the other responses in this thread as to why your Nokia 6265 is unlike any CDMA Nokia produced since (without their illegal reverse engineered chipset tweaks, newer NOKIA CDMA phones are unremarkable).
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chansonion

Apr 16, 2010, 10:49 AM
Most people don't understand that the reason that Nokia's OLD CDMA phones (6019, 6235, 6255, 6265 and older) got great reception was because they had reversed engineered Qualcomm's chipset and done their own optimization... illegally, if i understand correctly (see the web for the results of the suit against Nokia). The newer models that failed testing were built by a Nokia SUBSIDIARY that had a valid license (not by Nokia) and used standard Qualcomm chips. They got horrible reception.
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tastesfunny85

Apr 17, 2010, 3:50 PM
chansonion said:
Most people don't understand that the reason that Nokia's OLD CDMA phones (6019, 6235, 6255, 6265 and older) got great reception was because they had reversed engineered Qualcomm's chipset and done their own optimization... illegally, if i understand correctly (see the web for the results of the suit against Nokia). The newer models that failed testing were built by a Nokia SUBSIDIARY that had a valid license (not by Nokia) and used standard Qualcomm chips. They got horrible reception.

You would be correct sir. In i believe 2006 Qualcomm filed a patent lawsuit against nokia. All of their CDMA phones since have been made through pantech and well pantech sucks. It has nothing to do with US ...
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mobilemadness

Apr 18, 2010, 9:53 PM
So basically Qualcomm made some crappy, sub-par chipsets that they wanted to force everyone to buy (chipsets that got terrible reception)....Nokia fixed all the "issues" Qualcomm had with their sub-par engineering and Qualcomm sued Nokia as a result. I think if I was Qualcomm I wouldn't have said anything out of embarrassment that some other company had to fix my low quality, 3rd rate crap that they produced!
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chansonion

Apr 19, 2010, 11:02 AM
ORLY?

Those CDMA chipsets are used in ALL handsets. And vendors like Motorola at least seem to do fine for reception without illegally tampering with their design.

And if I understand correctly, the design changes that Nokia implemented allowed their phones favored access to the towers. At the expense of other handset designs. So if that's true, a group of NOKIA owners using the same tower could negatively impact network performance for others (in terms of capacity and coverage).
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mobilemadness

Apr 19, 2010, 12:00 PM
I know these chipsets are used in all CDMA phones as part of their proprietary design. There are different levels of quality of chipsets offered by Quallcomm. Motorola maybe buying higher grades of chipsets. Kyoceras and most Samsungs use the lowest grade. The whole chipset requirement is the problem with CDMA. It is controlled by Quallcomm through their licenses or by direct selling to manufacturers. So Quallcomm had a bad design, Nokia improved it and was sued as a result.
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tastesfunny85

Apr 19, 2010, 12:26 PM
theres a difference in improving something and out right piracy. Nokia didn't just improve it they almost completely reversed it and then made changes to it. which under patent law you can't do. bost about them all you want but they weren't out to make something better because then they would have went to quallcom with it. they were just out to get a leg up on every other phone.
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Amarantamin

Apr 18, 2010, 10:01 PM
Oh wow, I wasn't aware improving over another product was illegal. Now I know.
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tastesfunny85

Apr 19, 2010, 12:28 PM
you can most definetly make changes to existing products. you'll just get sued under patent law. case in point nokia being retarded and basing their chipset off of qualcom rather then just making a new one.
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