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EXPENSIVE!!!!

Bocadude490

Jul 3, 2004, 9:44 AM
IM SORRY BUT THIS SERVICE IS JUST A RIP OFF! YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF JUST TO GET A REGULAR PLAN AND YOU WOULD SAVE LIKE YOU WOULDNT BELEIVE!!! THIS COMPANY IS PRETTY MUCH ONLY GOOD FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT LIKE AN EMERGENCY PHONE! EVEN THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO RELOAD IT EVERY 90 DAYS EVEN IF YOU DONT NEED TO! SO TWO WORDS FOR THIS COMPANY "RIP OFF"!!! WHO AGREES?
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stevo89

Jul 3, 2004, 10:26 PM
Dude I totally agree. I've had Virgin Mobile for a year now since my mom is so stingy and thought I would like never use the phone, so I'm switching to T-Mobile in about a month because its gonna be way cheaper AND on top of that they have a greater network coverage for where I live (california)
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phonepimp3376

Jul 12, 2004, 10:46 PM
Stevo...

Saw you mention you have an interest in internet in an earlier post. You might want to consider Cingular in that case, for a few reasons.

First, T-Mobile uses Cingular's network via roaming agreements in California and Nevada. They will be aquiring it after Cingular completes reguulatory approval of the ATTWS buyout.

Second, Cingular is in the process of bringing EDGE internet online nationwide, T-Mobile will be beginning EDGE deployment by year's end, if not later.

Pricing between the two is similar, but handset selection and network size are hugely different. Not to mention Cingular's rollover, unlimited N&W and M2M on most nation plans, and early evenings option.

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TheVZWMan

Jul 14, 2004, 9:21 AM
Nice sales pitch PP...hehehe
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phonepimp3376

Jul 15, 2004, 4:10 PM
Hey, ya give em the facts and let em run with it...lol
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geminiwireless.com

Jul 15, 2004, 4:58 PM
How is a one year contract bad when you were selling him you said t-mobile only had one year contracts as if that were a negative. T-mobile get more minutes service and features. 😉
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phonepimp3376

Jul 15, 2004, 6:50 PM
BS they do... here's why a one year contract is a bad thing... IT INCREASES OVERALL COST TO THE CONSUMER!!!

Other than your precious 1000 whenever minutes plan with no N&W and no M2M (not such a deal when you look at it that way) name one plan on your shriveled little network than offers better value than Cingular.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 15, 2004, 7:06 PM
For example:

T-Mobile:
Family Time 800
minutes: 800
N&W: unlimited
M2M: unlimited
second line free
Activation fee: $35 per line
National coverage:http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/
Price: $69.99 for first two lines plus $70 activation fees

Cingular:
Family Talk GSM Nation 850
minutes: 850
N&W: unlimited nationwide
M2M: unlimited nationwide
second line $9.99
Activation fee: $18 per line
National coverage:http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html /Maps/nation_GSM_map.htm
Price: 59.99 plus $36 activation fees

Totals:
T-Mobile for two lines including activation and 50 less minutes - $139.99

Cingular for two lines including activation and 50 more minutes - $105.98
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geminiwireless.com

Jul 16, 2004, 11:46 AM
Get to know the plans. $69.99 Family plan is for two phones. And is the best value in wireless.
Cingular family 850 $105.98
T-mobile family talk 800 $69.99
Only one year agreement free phone get a free phone every year. With re-contract.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 18, 2004, 2:46 PM
Where the HELL did you get 105.98 for two lines with Cingular?
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phonepimp3376

Jul 18, 2004, 2:48 PM
And if you took the time to read my post, both are figured on two lines. You are not adding the $70 in activation fees to your T-Mobile figure. Even though the LINE is free, activating it is NOT. So where's your value NOW?
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bizkitsngravy

Dec 14, 2004, 12:48 PM
Ok we'll jump from july-december here. I'll make a couple examples and let everyone make up their own mind, as one provider may have better solutions than another for certain customers, and vise versa. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Every advantage has it's drawbacks, and every rule has it's exceptions.

Example 1: $39.99 T-Mobile 600 whenever unl nights and weekends OR 1000 whenever, OR 3-day weekend

$39.99 Cingular 450 whenever (w/rollover) 5000N&W and unl mobile-mobile.
(optional $7 extra for nights that start at 7)

Lets talk about the above for just a moment. Sure cingular has rollover. However what if you use more than 450 minutes a month? It won't do you a darn bit of good. Only time it would is is your usage flu...
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bizkitsngravy

Dec 14, 2004, 12:49 PM
oh, and one more thing I missed...T-Mobiles Family Time plan for $69.99 (which is the same as cingulars $59.99 add-a-line for $9.99) also matches 850 minutes now. 🙂
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phonepimp3376

Jul 18, 2004, 2:52 PM
Even if you choose not to include the activation fees in your total, Cingular is $59.99 + 9.99 = 69.98. Cingular gives you a ton more coverage, better data offerings and better handset selection. Cingular gives you dual band GSM while T-Mobile gives you one. See your so-called "best value" going down the drain? What good is a "good value" if you can't MAKE CALLS?
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...ash...

Jul 30, 2004, 12:56 AM
phonepimp you are psychotic. yes, virgin mobile sucks because it's too expensive. but let's compare apples to apples here, kay? these phones are made for cdma technology... so why don't you sit tight on the gsm couch and let the grown ups talk, mm?
if you don't go for virgin mobile, go for a sprint phone on a fair and flexible plan. have a cooler phone, pay less per month, and reep the benefits of all that new technology has to offer you the the network you'd be utilizing while using a virgin mobile device anyway... except this way, you'll pay far less collectively. your phone will work, even if you're in analog. in gsm, when you don't get a signal, your phone just... won't work. and that's no fun... is it?
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JessiCSR

Jan 13, 2005, 5:17 PM
With Cingular you're very rarely without a signal unless you're way out in the boonies. Don't go insulting a guy just for making offers. You may have a huge hard-on for CDMA, but that doesn't make GSM bad.
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...ash...

Jul 30, 2004, 1:02 AM
ROLL OVER MINUTES ONLY LAST FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CONTRACT!!! God tauting that rollover bullshit makes me so livid, why do you try to mislead your customers?!?! 👿
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phonepimp3376

Jul 30, 2004, 11:38 AM
Rollover minutes do NOT just last for the first year of the contract. Let's put all of your so-called 'facts' to rest right here.

Rollover minutes that were accrued a year ago drop off... so if you accrued 300 rollover minutes in January 2004, unless you use them, they go away after a year. Then your February rollover minutes, if not used, drop off in a year the next month. But since you are building rollover each month, they don't go away.

GSM doesn't work if there's no signal: no phone works if there's no signal. Cingular's digital coverage area is larger than Sprint's, so what's your point?

Sprint uses a roadrunner array and a HUGE amount of roaming agreements to compete nationally. A great deal of their coverage is analog, where...
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...ash...

Jul 30, 2004, 2:50 PM
what happens after the year where the rollover minutes have been consumed? ie: the third year

5000 N&W? that's gay, i like unlimited better.

and i can't believe you actually just said cingular has a better phone selection than sprint. that's not even an attack, that's a joke. thanks for the smile though.. 🤣

i don't feel like writing a winded response to your repetitive cingular crap. i'll just say that all of my clients who come in looking to get out of cingular are pretty pissed off... and once i explain to them all of the facts about the fair and flexible, they laugh and ask me how you guys get away with lying? all i can say to them is, well i guess everyone will realize it after their second year like you did, mr/mrs so a...
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phonepimp3376

Jul 30, 2004, 3:05 PM
rollover replicates each month, that's what happens. So in year three you are rolling off year two's rolover minutes, and adding year three's rollover for use in year four.

We offer unlimited as an add on to any plan, and it is included on GSM NAtion 49.99 and up.

Answer me this ash, since you seem to know everything, yet have no TRUE competitive analysis info: If Sprint's coverage and plans are so much better than Cingular's, why do you have like HALF our market share? Why did Sprint get slammed so bad by Cingular on 20/20? Why does Sprint PCS mean Sprint Pretty Crappy Service all over the Northeast?

I have had both carriers at the same time, and Cingular outperformed Sprint in every state on the East Coast. Calls dropped so ofte...
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wonderdave

Aug 12, 2004, 9:16 AM
Hey little brother, calm down. You don't have to try to prove yourself. Cingular is alright. It's just that, alright. It's not fabulous. Sprint is a joke, I'll agree. But Cingular isn't far from being a joke itself. I just have one thing to say about all of this. If you are rolling over minutes consistently, you are getting ripped off - go with a carrier that will allow you to change your plan anytime so you can get a plan that isn't expensive and doesn't have more than you need.
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phonepimp3376

Aug 12, 2004, 9:41 AM
Uhhhh...you can do that with us. One thing you can do with us is build up a bed of rollover minutes, then lower your plan to use them up, and SAVE money in the process.

Actually, any company that throws away leftover minutes rips you off even worse.
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Digital Pimp

Aug 13, 2004, 2:49 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Actually, any company that throws away leftover minutes rips you off even worse.



Woah Woah there Phonepimp. You've got me responding again. Your saying Verizon Wireless and other Cellular companies rip off customers now. Are you kidding??

So, I guess Cingular RIPS off customers when they charge a $36 activation fee on a 2 year contract because Verizon only charges a $15 activation fee. Sound about right?

Cmon man, The #1 Cell phone company is not ripping off customers. We get customers on rate plans that they will use all or most of their minutes on a larger network. To have 100 or so extra minutes rollover each and every month, MEANS they are on a rate plan that has too...
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phonepimp3376

Aug 14, 2004, 9:50 AM
No, VZW rips people off by not allowing family plans to upgrade unless its the primary line, and by charging more than the industry standard for a hybrid network. They rip people off through tactics like crippling BT on phones.

As for rollover ripping people off, that argument makes sense until they have a month or two when they NEEDED an extra hundred and didn't PAY 40 cents or so a minute for them.

F&F is a ripoff, pure and simple... I don't care how you do the math. Bring it up to the same minutes and features as our lowest cost nation plan with rollover, and you're paying over 20.00 more per month!
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speck

Aug 14, 2004, 2:59 PM
One thing i've learned... you can never convince a t-mobile user just how bad it is... Given the average consumer looks at price but the big picture is that t-mobile is suffering w/ churn... they're network is miniscule compared to Cingular, Verizon and AT&T (Hopefully soon to be Cingular)... t-mobile's "Whenever" minutes is simply a joke but it's the sales pitch that gets people. Not to mention t-mobile coverage is only worthy in metro areas... I'm not going to compare and tell you who to pick because I do that all day. The only good thing I have to say about t-mobile is you can order Sony Ericcson's 1.5 Megapixel Camera phone.
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Digital Pimp

Aug 16, 2004, 1:50 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
No, VZW rips people off by not allowing family plans to upgrade unless its the primary line, and by charging more than the industry standard for a hybrid network. They rip people off through tactics like crippling BT on phones.

I can upgrade ANY phone on an account that is ELIGIBLE for upgrade (2 months prior to contract ending) even if it isn't a primary line. Where did you get that lame ass info?

So we had a BT problem that will be fixed, just like your problems with the Motorola 600. nuff said.

And we set the industry standard, everyone else is competing to beat us.

As for rollover ripping people off, that argument makes sense until they have a month or two when they NEEDED an extra h
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Digital Pimp

Aug 16, 2004, 1:58 PM
Digital Pimp said:
phonepimp3376 said:
No, VZW rips people off by not allowing family plans to upgrade unless its the primary line, and by charging more than the industry standard for a hybrid network. They rip people off through tactics like crippling BT on phones.


I can upgrade ANY phone on an account that is ELIGIBLE for upgrade (2 months prior to contract ending) even if it isn't a primary line. Where did you get that lame ass info?

So we had a BT problem that will be fixed, just like your problems with the Motorola 600. nuff said.

And we set the industry standard, everyone else is competing to beat us.

As for rollover ripping people off, that argument makes...
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 10:44 AM
Our activation fee is in line with other national carriers. And I, from a customer standpoint would rather pay an 18.00 upgrade fee and be able to upgrade my family add on lines than deal with NE2 and not be able to upgrade them.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 17, 2004, 12:21 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Our activation fee is in line with other national carriers. And I, from a customer standpoint would rather pay an 18.00 upgrade fee and be able to upgrade my family add on lines than deal with NE2 and not be able to upgrade them.

you CAN still upgrade them at promo pricing, woh said that you couldn't? But you would not be eligible for ne2 100.00 off promo pricing, and hell with the BOGO's we offer you can get free phone for the secondary lines anyway...also our upgrade fee is about 7 bucks less than yours and your activation fee for a 2 year service agreement is NOT in line with all other national carriers...ours is only 15.00
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 12:43 PM
So now you are the ONLY national carrier other than Cingular? Well, yeah, come to think of it.... lol
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TheVZWMan

Aug 17, 2004, 12:46 PM
I rest my case hehehe 🤣
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 12:47 PM
Why you hiding in here bro?
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TheVZWMan

Aug 17, 2004, 12:54 PM
not hiding just really busy..hehehe
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Digital Pimp

Aug 17, 2004, 3:21 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Our activation fee is in line with other national carriers. And I, from a customer standpoint would rather pay an 18.00 upgrade fee and be able to upgrade my family add on lines than deal with NE2 and not be able to upgrade them.



Shows here you don't read full responses to your threads...please do. It would stop you from putting something that isn't true again and making you look like a fool.

Other than that me and VZWman seem to have stopped your misinformation train. I hope that helps in future threads from you.
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 3:32 PM
You seem to miss my point...yes, you can pay the promo cost and upgrade your share lines, but in my experience this does not work out to be as good a deal as the primary line gets. With our upgrade policy, all lines get the same deal. That was my point.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 17, 2004, 3:49 PM
And what exactly is that deal? Do you give a 100.00 credit to all lines no matter if they are on a 15.00 calling plan or 99.99...hell no you don't...what exactly is it that you give existing customer off promo pricing on new eqp when/if they renew thier service with you?
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 3:54 PM
All upgrades get new customer pricing with any rebates included. Considering our subsidy this usually results in new phones for all for free. For example, I just had a family leave here with 3 LG c1300 phones... final cost 0.00 per phone. Primary line 39.99...the other two 9.99.

I guess I just have a problem with the primary getting a better deal than the share lines.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 17, 2004, 3:58 PM
Well it really has everything to do with how much you pay per line...if you pay more than 34.99 per line each line ends up getting the ne2...so say that we have 2 lines on an america's choice 400 minute family share plan...39.99 for primary 20.00 for secondary...they've had this calling plan for 22 month since they started their service...primary line gets ne2 100.00 off promo pricing...BOGO for 79.99..cost out of pocket 0.00 to the customer...same sh!t big dog! hehehe
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 4:03 PM
Does it ALWAYS work out that way though?

It just seems to me this is kinda confusing to the customers. I talk to lots of folks that think they can only upgrade one line, because their secondary line is a 20 buck line and no NE2. They don't see it as a deal.

One thing people usually misunderstand about me is I tend to look at things with a customer's eye. So what may seem like an 'attack' from a wireless rep is actually just poijnting out what a customer might think, or has expressed to me. This is one of those times.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 17, 2004, 4:16 PM
#1 even as a secondary line, if it has been 22 months since the last time you got promo pricing on new eqp you are eligible for AT LEAST promo pricing on new eqp with a renewal
#2 that is always the case...since we do not offer at share plan in which the primary line would be under 34.99 as long as they are on any kind of calling plan of 34.99 or above for the above mentioned 22 months since the last time they got promo pricing then that primary line is eligible for ne2 100.00 off...if said primary line goes with a phone that is under 100.00 and is BOGO then they would get 2 new phone with paying noting more than the upgrade fee of like 11.00 per line and taxes on the phone...plain and simple
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Digital Pimp

Aug 17, 2004, 4:32 PM
TheVZWMan said:
#1 even as a secondary line, if it has been 22 months since the last time you got promo pricing on new eqp you are eligible for AT LEAST promo pricing on new eqp with a renewal
#2 that is always the case...since we do not offer at share plan in which the primary line would be under 34.99 as long as they are on any kind of calling plan of 34.99 or above for the above mentioned 22 months since the last time they got promo pricing then that primary line is eligible for ne2 100.00 off...if said primary line goes with a phone that is under 100.00 and is BOGO then they would get 2 new phone with paying noting more than the upgrade fee of like 11.00 per line and taxes on the phone...plain and simple
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 4:50 PM
I see the light, DP, I'm just saying we make no distinction based on the price plan.
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TheVZWMan

Aug 17, 2004, 4:57 PM
nor do we when we're talking about promo pricing...but promo pricing and ne2 which is something you don't even offer...are 2 completely different stories...
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 5:06 PM
True, we don't offer a NE2. We do offer a slightly better upgrade policy though. 21 months in, get new customer pricing regardless of plan price.

Here's my question, though: How many phones does VZW offer that if they DIDN'T have NE2 would be free, or free after rebate? I'm a bit out of the loop on handset pricing lately, but I know historically the VZW handsets were priced a bit higher than their GSM counterparts.
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Digital Pimp

Aug 17, 2004, 5:12 PM
we offer 22 months in a 2 year, new customer pricing regardless of plan price.

so with Cingular your saying they can upgrade 3 months prior? I will check on that one.
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Digital Pimp

Aug 17, 2004, 5:38 PM
Digital Pimp said:
we offer 22 months in a 2 year, new customer pricing regardless of plan price.

so with Cingular your saying they can upgrade 3 months prior? I will check on that one.


I checked it and that is correct. 3 months prior, is a good thing for Cingular because we can only upgrade 2 months prior unless some special arrangement is made.
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schnozejt

Aug 29, 2004, 8:34 AM
VZW has different tiers cust's can upgrade w/in-->2, 4, and 6 months prior to contract end date. Certain criteria need to be met and it is not applicable w/ the ne2
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phonepimp3376

Aug 31, 2004, 12:45 PM
We have exceptions to the rule as well.
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Digital Pimp

Aug 17, 2004, 3:53 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
You seem to miss my point...yes, you can pay the promo cost and upgrade your share lines, but in my experience this does not work out to be as good a deal as the primary line gets. With our upgrade policy, all lines get the same deal. That was my point.


SO DO ALL OUR LINES! THAT IS MY POINT. You are misinforming people.

All our lines get discounts on new phones just as the primary line does. As long as they have completed the contract up to the date of eligibility to upgrade.

Your point is mistaken.
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 3:55 PM
According to NE2, the line has to be what...34.99 or higher to qualify? So share lines do NOT qualify for NE2
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TheVZWMan

Aug 17, 2004, 4:03 PM
you are correct on that but in turn...with numerous BOGO offers we have available a customer could still get the secondary lines for free
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phonepimp3376

Aug 17, 2004, 4:04 PM
And it takes an attentive rep who gives a damn to make them see that...
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TheVZWMan

Aug 17, 2004, 4:17 PM
true to that, but that goes for any carrier!!
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jan 8, 2005, 11:32 AM
Stevo,
Consider Sprint for the same reasons.
First CDMA/AMPS coverage is by far better than GSM, add the America option and you get all of Sprint's, Verizon's USCC's, Alltel's and any other CDMA or analog carrier's network for free.
Second, Sprint's CDMA network is already doing things that EDGE will do and has been for almost 3 years now.
Third, Fair and Flexible is a way better way to go than rollover minutes.
Fourth EVDO will be a reality by year's end which will open up way more possibilities. Fifth, the Sanyo phones are a much higher quality phone than any of the Nokias or Motorolas available.
Sixth and maybe most important, the impending merger between Sprint and Nextel will open up new coverage areas as well as new spectrum...
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...ash...

Jul 30, 2004, 1:00 AM
yeah virgin phones are gay
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matty_719

Dec 10, 2004, 2:26 PM
Cingular & AT&T Offer pre-paid service with actual rate plans. Cingular is called Take Charge. At&t is called GoPhone. Its MUCH more cost effective.
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BetterThanJake

Dec 19, 2004, 6:00 AM
matty_719 said:
Cingular & AT&T Offer pre-paid service with actual rate plans. Cingular is called Take Charge. At&t is called GoPhone. Its MUCH more cost effective.

Mmm... yes and no. The AT&T Free2Go service and Cingular pre-paid are both pretty lame actually- 25 cents a minute, period, and with Free2Go your minutes expire after 90 days unless you get the $100 card. Virgin does rob people blind, but even they drop the rate to 10 cents a minute after the first 10 minutes in a day, and the minutes don't expire.

The Cingular pre-paid 10 cents/minute service ain't all that either... because they charge you a $1/day on top of that, on any day you make or receive a phone call. Its just another cute way to di...
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BetterThanJake

Dec 19, 2004, 6:51 AM
Gotta add that the first pay-as-you-go that can offer service at 10 cents a minute, period, no tricks, will probably rule the world.

Everyone who can pass a credit check and really wants a cell phone already has one. But there's a ton of ppl out there with bad or no credit who want a phone, or who have good credit but don't care enough to get one unless the deal was sweet for occasional users (seniors).

At 10 cents a minute flat, pre-pays & pay-as-you-go's would be beating customers off with a stick, while still making quite a premium over what plan people pay. Don't really grok why no one has done it yet.
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DAC21

Dec 19, 2004, 12:27 PM
Why is this even discussion?. Virgin Mobile caters to young "stupid" client. Apparently they hit their mark very well judging by the responses on this board.
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DAC21

Dec 19, 2004, 1:08 PM
If you can't figure out how much your usage will before going onto a phone plan, then you deserve what you get. The good thing about VM is you can quit today. I was peeing away $40 a month for two basic phone lines with ATt&T, yep myself and the wife got all of 45 minutes a month for the $19.95 plan. Neither of us had ever used that much. When do we use the phones? often on vacation where AT&T dings use for roming fees, VM doesn't. So what do I get for the $500 a year that it cost us?, pretty much just a bill.

Sure if we had kids this whole discussion is mute, we don't. If I were a Salesman ditto.
8 years ago almost nobody had cellphones, last I checked the world didn't stop turning.
Now days a cellphone is little more than a toy...
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ShunAsa

Dec 20, 2004, 5:36 PM
you're SO rude......since they're kicking out "rude" people all willy-nilly...i'd like to nominate you
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BetterThanJake

Dec 19, 2004, 6:12 PM
DAC21 said:
Why is this even discussion?. Virgin Mobile caters to young "stupid" client. Apparently they hit their mark very well judging by the responses on this board.

They're often young, yes, but not so much "stupid" as inexperienced.

And y'know, its terribly easy to be snotty and dismissive (anyone can do it)... its much harder to be helpful.
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shadedpain4

Dec 20, 2004, 4:46 PM
BetterThanJake said:
its terribly easy to be snotty and dismissive (anyone can do it)... its much harder to be helpful.


That should be printed at the top of every lounge. Well said.
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BetterThanJake

Dec 20, 2004, 6:07 PM
Thanks, shaded. One does get tired of the "I'm so great, and you're all losers" strain of Internet poster. So common, so cliche.
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Liam20

Dec 25, 2004, 4:45 PM
yawn
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BetterThanJake

Dec 26, 2004, 11:15 PM
Glad you agree. 😁
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JessiCSR

Dec 27, 2004, 4:29 PM
That's Pre-paid for ya.


All prepaid services are like that. Verizon, Cingular...whatever. It's for small-usage with no credit.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jan 8, 2005, 11:21 AM
Prepaid has its niche. No parent wants a huge bill because their teenager overdid the minutes or text messaged the world. With prepaid there is not a bill.
Many parents use it to teach their young people responsibility. When the money is gone it's gone and you can't use your phone until you have more money to put into it.
Other people who like prepaid are the older folks who really don't want a phone but their adult children get worried about them when they travel and insist they have one for emergencies.
If you use less than 100 minutes per month then prepaid is often a much smarter choice than regular wireless.
If you use more than 200 minutes per month then you should look into a regular post paid plan.
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killbill

Jan 28, 2005, 12:46 PM
wait, did u say save??? haha, pretty funny 🤣 hello, are you blind???? the least expensive contract is 19.99 per month. and let's think, $20x12 months is $240. yeah, and with virgin its $20 for 90 days (keep in mind its 3 months). 90/365 is about 4. $20x4 top ups is $80. i'd rather pay $80 than $240. and, contracts arent a flat rate, cuz there's overages, taxes, fees, and activation on top of that. so, that only ups the price.
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BetterThanJake

Jan 31, 2005, 4:27 PM
I think what he's trying to say is that if you use your phone a significant amount (say more than 150 minutes a month), then yeah, a contract is a better way to go, which it is.

But you're right, if you use your cell phone very very little, Virgin is cheaper. It really depends which side of 150 minutes a month you're on. I wouldn't toot Virgin's horn too much on that '$20 every 90 days' thing though... that works out to only about 50 minutes a month for most ppl.
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selrep1

Dec 13, 2005, 3:40 PM
I AGREE. I BOUGHT TWO LAST CHRISTMAS FOR MY KIDS AND OMG!!!!!!!! IT COST ME MORE THEN MY NEXTEL DID.AS FAR AS THE PHONES THEMSELVES. RIP OFF!!!!! I HAD TO REPLACE ONE OF THEM 3 TIMES AND EACH TIME MY DAUGHTER HAD TO GO WITHOUT HER PHONE FOR 3 TO 5 WEEKS AND THEN THEY WANT TO CALL MY HOUSE SAYING SHE NEEDED TO ADD TIME OR LOSE SERVICE. BS. I FINALLY TOLD THEM WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THIER SERVICE AND THERE PHONES AND THIS YEAR I AM BUYING 2 SUNCOM PHONES. I HAVE SHOPPED AROUND AND THERE IS NO BETTER PLAN FOR 2 TEENAGE GIRLS THE THE UNLIMITED . UNLIMITED TALK AND TEXT FOR 2 PHONES FOR $120 A MONTH. NO WORRYS ABOUT AN UNEXPECTED HIGH BILL DUE TO OVERAGE USE. 😉
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