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Yean

Nov 3, 2006, 8:01 PM
Question. Has anyone heard of T-Mobile buying out Sprint?
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mobile_trojan

Nov 3, 2006, 11:18 PM
HOW and WHY would they even attempt that?
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ygbhen

Nov 4, 2006, 9:53 AM
TMobile would not be able to afford Sprint. ATT cost Cingular 41 billion for 24 million customers and assets, I think Sprint and its assets would probably be worth close to double that amount.
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nextel18

Nov 5, 2006, 5:29 AM
Actually, T-mobile and its parent DT can afford many companies out there even Sprint, although the purchase would be high. Sprint is currently worth around at least $75B and that is with 50 million customers multiplied by a very low valuation of $1,500 per subscriber. The average valuation is around $2,300 per subscriber, which makes Sprint worth $115B. (Remember, Sprint customers are more valuable than their peers. Thus; getting a higher premium.)
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stevelvl

Nov 5, 2006, 6:51 PM
honestly, how many people in thsi forum are going to be able to make heads or teails of what you just said? it sounds right to me but this is a tech forums not an economic forums.
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nextel18

Nov 6, 2006, 6:20 AM
you probably didnt know what I said. 🙂
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ygbhen

Nov 5, 2006, 9:07 PM
Like I said, they cannot afford Sprint and continue to operate all their other markets effectively. Spending 115B would damn near cripple their efforts to roll out services in our market and markets abroad.
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nextel18

Nov 6, 2006, 6:18 AM
Of course, they can afford Sprint. They will just use a lot of stock to do the purchase, but there might be synergies, which will help, lower that amount.
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ygbhen

Nov 7, 2006, 12:48 PM
Come on 18, stop it. Over 100 billion dollars 🤣

Their board members would not go for that. Just look at it from this way. You make $1000 per week, would you spend $850 of that a week on a house, car, etc. That would stretch Duetsch Telecom completely thin. Not to mention all of the technical costs of migration and equipment. That would make the deal even more expensive.

If TMobile is the market for buying carriers, they should look at SunCom. Sprint on the other hand does not need to look at buying anyone right now until they resolve their current woes.
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nextel18

Nov 7, 2006, 1:13 PM
Don’t you remember the $41 (+$8B in debt) for the Cingular purchase of ATTWS? Bellsouth and ATT basically had to eat that up and assumed it as debt.

Therefore, it can be done.

Also the potential 45% buyout of Vodafone’s stake in VZW for at least $50B that would force VZ to eat all of that.

They would have to raise a lot of stock and assume a lot of debt, but it can be done.

Suncom isn’t a good company for T-mobile to acquire. They need someone like Alltel or a bigger company than Suncom plus a company that is actually good.

Sprint also should look at buying Alltel.
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wombough

Nov 4, 2006, 11:12 AM
How is easy they can afford it. Remember T mobile is a multi international company. The why is the real reason. How would it benefit them.
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kiwietnies

Nov 4, 2006, 3:49 PM
T-Mobile wouldn't gain a whole lot by aquiring Sprint seeing as the companies would be forced into redundant technologies (data and voice), whereas at least with the Nextel acquisition they gained the Direct Connect niche and a buttload of needed spectrum.
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Yean

Nov 4, 2006, 4:34 PM
T-mo would have everything to gain on Sprint's CDMA network. I know T-Mo is trying to bid on CDMA. Why start from the bottom, try to build and learn a network, while T-Mo can invest on a great CDMA network? Just my 2 cents. Guess we'll see in the future. Very interesting.
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jareddude42

Nov 4, 2006, 5:58 PM
right but i have heard rumors of tmobile international trying to sell the u.s. division of the company and plus considering we are just now coming out of a wicked merger i dont think the gov't would allow that. thats called a monopoly.
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wombough

Nov 4, 2006, 6:29 PM
for one why would they want to sell their US asset when they just bought it a few yrs back. And two monopoly are you kidding. Can you say ATT back together again. Well when they buy bell south they will be 80% back together again. The only way it would be a monopoly is if they were trying to buy their only competition like what happened when Dish tried to buy Directv. So as long as at least 2 national carries are alive then I don't see them stopping mergers.
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jareddude42

Nov 4, 2006, 7:23 PM
there is no way they would buy sprint and im sure there is no way sprint would be down for that. they havent even finished with one merger why try and bring another one in stock price would plummet even worse than it already has and after all it is the stokcholders that have the final say. and to convince somebody that has 5 billion in stocks with the company to sign up to ultimately have 2.5 billion probably not. besides t mobile kinda sucks anyways
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Yean

Nov 5, 2006, 3:23 AM
Look guys, I'm not Forsee, or connected to Sprint's partners. We will see what happens in the future. What happens, happens.
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nextel18

Nov 5, 2006, 5:33 AM
Yean, the question is, what can T-mobile bring towards the proposed merger?
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jareddude42

Nov 6, 2006, 4:00 PM
i cant think of a damn thing they could bring to the table that we dont already have
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nextel18

Nov 7, 2006, 7:31 AM
Perhaps to add a decent mix of prepaid and postpaid subscribers.

Enhance coverage with the cell sites.

Enhance their Spectrum portfolio.

GSM/CDMA devices.

Global roaming with data plans.

Adding more data products.

Enhance the WIFI presence.

Great marketing plan.

Making DT the daddy and to be allowed to infuse more money domestically and abroad to link up.

Therefore, they can bring some things to the table.
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nextel18

Nov 5, 2006, 5:32 AM
I would not say no way because anything can happen especially dealing with a very strong company with DT and another strong company with Sprint. The problem is, with the asking price and what does T-mobile bring to the combined merger of Sprint/T-mobile.

“and to convince somebody that has 5 billion in stocks with the company to sign up to ultimately have 2.5 billion probably not.”

What does this mean?
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invictous

Nov 14, 2006, 12:39 PM
All I know is that I love my job and if I have to go through another merger... im going to die an early death.
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nextel18

Nov 14, 2006, 1:09 PM
NOOOO. No suicide talks!!

Should we call the hotline?
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Yean

Nov 4, 2006, 4:24 PM
Check this out. I've been heard of this rumor for some time. It's either T-Mobile or Sprint's partners. http://www.businessweek.com/technology/conten t/oct2006/tc20061011437723.htm?chan=rss_topDi scussed_ssi_5
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KingJohn405

Nov 4, 2006, 5:05 PM
Your kidding me right? T-mobile buy out sprint? hahaha I'm laughing so hard i think im going to pass out. Sprint's CDMA technology, their voice and data services are wayyy wayy better than t-mobile. There coverage and EVDO power vision is far more super than t-mobiles, if it was the case sprint would probably buy out tmobiles. Now that sprint and nextel are together we have the new hybrid coverage. 🙂
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wombough

Nov 4, 2006, 6:33 PM
how do you base who will buy who on service. It only takes one thing to buy and thats money. And Tmobile international has plenty of it. With that said I don't think it will happen. They only merger in the future I see is sprint and verizon. Sprint has proved that a merger with two different technologies hurts allot and cost allot.
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Yean

Nov 5, 2006, 3:19 AM
Look, this is all rumors going around Wall Street. If anyone decides to buy Sprint, there's obviously a reason, it would only be to the companies benefit. Any company's benefit. No company would buy or merge with any other company because they want to, it's to better and profit. Think about it.
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nextel18

Nov 5, 2006, 5:36 AM
Sprint and Verizon merger will not happen. They are just too powerful separately and together, they will be even more powerful. Sprint does not need Verizon, but I think Verizon needs Sprint especially with their 2.5 GHz spectrum, data, and prepaid segments, which VZW would kill for.

The FCC and DOJ will never allow such a big merger without major divestitures which would be probably for billions of dollars and that would be a waste of a merger. Obviously, there would be synergies but not worth it.
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dca

Nov 6, 2006, 1:00 PM
Indeed, good point. Not too mention, after the elections they'll (FCC) approve the BS/ATT merger and that will be it in the telecom industry. No more wireless buy-outs/mergers, no more wired mergers...
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nextel18

Nov 7, 2006, 7:55 AM
Of course.
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nextel18

Nov 5, 2006, 5:37 AM
It is actually not a bad idea, but Sprint does not need T-mobile. It is the opposite.

However, imagine a DO/WIMAX/HSDPA device. Not bad. (Well at least Wimax/HSDPA device. )
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stevelvl

Nov 5, 2006, 6:56 PM
nextel18 said:
However, imagine a DO/WIMAX/HSDPA device. Not bad. (Well at least Wimax/HSDPA device. )



that sounds about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.
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nextel18

Nov 6, 2006, 6:19 AM
Data is very useful and that is a powerful combo.
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nextel18

Nov 5, 2006, 5:23 AM
Morning..

It is a good idea, because T-mobile needs to acquire towers very quickly to deploy that 3G spectrum and it will also provide synergies, but not sure, if Sprint shareholders will want this, I am one of them, since the first merger with Nextel is not going that well.

The more important question is what would T-mobile provide towards the combined company? Not 100% sure.
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dca

Nov 6, 2006, 12:58 PM
Never happen: even though DT can afford it and them some, it would be too much of a pain for them. TMo USA is all GSM, all of DT's child (most of them) companies are GSM. They should have the best world roaming footprint avail (even though Cingy thanks to ATT one-upped them on world roaming) on GSM... The other problem would be dualie handsets GSM/CDMA till towers merged. My God, that would be a nightmare that nobody would want to tackle. Geez, we're still laughing at SPCS buying Nextel and loosing all their Nextel subs...
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sprint1234

Nov 6, 2006, 9:58 PM
😲 Actually it should be the other way around. Sprint should buy T-Mobile out dismantle the company and save us all from their stupid commercials and crappy service.
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lefteyeiu2006

Nov 8, 2006, 11:21 PM
Yean said:
Question. Has anyone heard of T-Mobile buying out Sprint?



Yes. Actually there are talks of them merging. After they merge they plan on moving their headquarters to Madison, WI and they will be located on a nice patch of retail space right next to the scenic Lake NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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