Sprint Fair and Flexible (and Expensive)
I was just looking at the brochure for the Sprint Fair and Flexible plan and man is that expensive. Ok, if you are an extremely erratic user than you might save some money, I mean that one month you use 300 minutes and the next you use 1500 and the next you use 900 minutes, etc. Maybe than you would save some money, but it seems to me that most people tend to have an average usage that is within about 100-150 every month. I do not think that the extra that the customer is paying for this plan is going to save money in the end.
...
I think its quite good if you are not a high volume user. Many everyday Cell customers do not live on their phones but don't want to watch minutes either when the occasional long call comes up.
After 300 minutes its pretty much $.10 a minute which is far better than many plans who charge $.45-$.69 a miute over. The savings really comes in the lower use months... I would love that option on a GSM ot TDMA plan as I only average 350 min ..but have 600 minute months, Thats why Cingular is a nice plan for me if the service and coverage matches ATT's TDMA and CS.
After 300 minutes its pretty much $.10 a minute which is far better than many plans who charge $.45-$.69 a miute over. The savings really comes in the lower use months... I would love that option on a GSM ot TDMA plan as I only average 350 min ..but have 600 minute months, Thats why Cingular is a nice plan for me if the service and coverage matches ATT's TDMA and CS.
...
I have a Sprint Fair and Flexible brochure here in front of me now. Lets do a little math and see how much money you are really saving.
Lets say a customer has a maximum usage of 1200 in a calender year and a minnimum usage for 400 minutes. For arguemnets sake I will say that 4 months out of the year the customer uses 1200, 4 months 800 minutes and 4 months 400 minutes.
Verizon Wireless 1200 minutes plan is 59.99/month
Lets say a customer has a maximum usage of 1200 in a calender year and a minnimum usage for 400 minutes. For arguemnets sake I will say that 4 months out of the year the customer uses 1200, 4 months 800 minutes and 4 months 400 minutes.
Verizon Wireless 1200 minutes plan is 59.99/month
...
Sorry about that hit enter Occidental: now lets continue.
According to the brochure to get Fair and Flexible America coverage w/ 9:00pm nights the rates are as follows.
400 minutes - $50.00 * 4 months = 200.00
800 minutes - $82.50 * 4 months = 330.00
1200 minutes - $102.50 * 4 months = 410.00
That comes to a grand total of --- $940.00 for one year
Now in order to avoid overage charges you have to be on the VZW 1200 minute Americas Choice Plan at 79.99/ month and that over one year that would come to a total of --- $959.88
Wow what a deal Sprint is offering a savings of $1.66/ month.
I also did another example saying that the customer uses 300 minutes / month for 6 months and 800 minutes/ month for 6 months. ...
(continues)
According to the brochure to get Fair and Flexible America coverage w/ 9:00pm nights the rates are as follows.
400 minutes - $50.00 * 4 months = 200.00
800 minutes - $82.50 * 4 months = 330.00
1200 minutes - $102.50 * 4 months = 410.00
That comes to a grand total of --- $940.00 for one year
Now in order to avoid overage charges you have to be on the VZW 1200 minute Americas Choice Plan at 79.99/ month and that over one year that would come to a total of --- $959.88
Wow what a deal Sprint is offering a savings of $1.66/ month.
I also did another example saying that the customer uses 300 minutes / month for 6 months and 800 minutes/ month for 6 months. ...
(continues)
...
The idea is for a person who signs up for the 300 minute plan and rarely uses the phone over 500 minutes. But if he does he will not get that .69 a minute mega bill.
If I bought Verizon at $40 and used 500 minutes Im looking at a bill of $95 for that month vs $40 on Sprint's plan. thats a huge savings, You are not taking into consideration the cost of using only 300 minutes on an 800 plan in any given month is still $60. Meaning the value is there ONLY if you use ALL the minutes.
I really think the paln is great for the $$40/month buyer who don't live on their phones.
I like the Sprint plan of paying $.10 a minute up to 1200 minutes. no nasty surprises and many months the bill will be under $50 still knowing you can have a big mon...
(continues)
If I bought Verizon at $40 and used 500 minutes Im looking at a bill of $95 for that month vs $40 on Sprint's plan. thats a huge savings, You are not taking into consideration the cost of using only 300 minutes on an 800 plan in any given month is still $60. Meaning the value is there ONLY if you use ALL the minutes.
I really think the paln is great for the $$40/month buyer who don't live on their phones.
I like the Sprint plan of paying $.10 a minute up to 1200 minutes. no nasty surprises and many months the bill will be under $50 still knowing you can have a big mon...
(continues)
...
King have you looked at the plan brochure? I have one in front of me now. If you use the phone 500 minutes on the Fair and Flexible America Plan w/ 9pm nights you would pay $60.00 That is equivalent to the VZW 800 minute plan and 10.00 more than the VZW 500 minute plan. The .10 a minute sounds great, but considering that your paying 40.00 for the first 300 minutes that is very high. With other carriers you can select a plan that is a bit higher than what you will normally use and still coming paying about the same amount per month. So what if I used all of the minutes I paid for, look at what you are paying per minute for the actual minutes that you used on the Sprint plan.
If you use 500 minutes the Sprint plan you are paying $60...
(continues)
If you use 500 minutes the Sprint plan you are paying $60...
(continues)
...
.10/min? If you want that then get VZW prepay. 😲 oh yeah... no free nights and weekends.. 😡 but it's not sprint 😛
...
I believe you are all missing the point of Fair and Flexible. KingFrog77 has it right, it is designed for people who don't use many minutes but may upon occasion go over. If I was on the VZW America's choice $34.95 and went over my monthly minutes by 150 during a given month I would be paying an extra $67.50 that month for a total of $102.49. With Fair and Flexible I would only be paying a total of $50.00 or $55.00 If I chose the America option.
Sprint is an innovator, this is a whole new way of marketing price plans. It has Cingular's rollover minutes beat to smithereens because rollover minutes force you to start at $40.00 and then choose a price plan with more minutes than you will use so you can build up a bucket of rollover minutes.
...
(continues)
Sprint is an innovator, this is a whole new way of marketing price plans. It has Cingular's rollover minutes beat to smithereens because rollover minutes force you to start at $40.00 and then choose a price plan with more minutes than you will use so you can build up a bucket of rollover minutes.
...
(continues)
...
your assunptopn is that one will use a minimum of 500 minutes every month....
the real value in Sprint and Cingular's plan is really evidant for those who use on the average less than 400 minutes a month on AVERAGE. With 100 minutes some months and maybe 700 minutes on a couple others.
This is NOT a good plan for high minute users which I consider above the minimum plans of 400 minutes. Only low users like myself who use less than 200 minutes most months and on occasion use 600+ minutes. The average user buys the 400 $39 plan I'm pretty sure. Add 100 minutes (500 total)in a couple months to a Verizon 400 min plan and you have another $100 easily added vs $40 dollars more on the Sprint plan for 200 minutes more (500 total for two mont...
(continues)
the real value in Sprint and Cingular's plan is really evidant for those who use on the average less than 400 minutes a month on AVERAGE. With 100 minutes some months and maybe 700 minutes on a couple others.
This is NOT a good plan for high minute users which I consider above the minimum plans of 400 minutes. Only low users like myself who use less than 200 minutes most months and on occasion use 600+ minutes. The average user buys the 400 $39 plan I'm pretty sure. Add 100 minutes (500 total)in a couple months to a Verizon 400 min plan and you have another $100 easily added vs $40 dollars more on the Sprint plan for 200 minutes more (500 total for two mont...
(continues)
...
Hey, everyone. News flash, this is a total scam. You really don't save any money at all. This is a great marketing plan, but that's it. If they were really interested in saving us money they could;
Charge per minute with no minimum, like a land line.
No contract, and if you don't use your phone for a month, no bill
Allow us to use existing phones, without having to buy a new one.
They are playing off of the ignorance of most people who see a commercial and think wow that's a good idea. They sign up for a plan, and then complain when it's not like the commercial.
Charge per minute with no minimum, like a land line.
No contract, and if you don't use your phone for a month, no bill
Allow us to use existing phones, without having to buy a new one.
They are playing off of the ignorance of most people who see a commercial and think wow that's a good idea. They sign up for a plan, and then complain when it's not like the commercial.
...
Okay willw, lets look at why this is nonsensical:
There is already pay per minute no minimum service, its called prepaid.
No contract, no bill for nonuse = higher equipment and per minute costs to the consumer, because the people who actually use their phone would have to provide the income the carrier wasn't making. Contracts allow carriers to provide phones to customers cheaper. Monthly billing allows the same, as well as the funds to continually invest in network expansion and new services.
Allowing a customer to use existing equipment, while it sounds good in theory, has some major flaws as well. Phones are customized to the carrier via software. This effects how it will act, sound, etc. on that carriers network. By taking a pho...
(continues)
There is already pay per minute no minimum service, its called prepaid.
No contract, no bill for nonuse = higher equipment and per minute costs to the consumer, because the people who actually use their phone would have to provide the income the carrier wasn't making. Contracts allow carriers to provide phones to customers cheaper. Monthly billing allows the same, as well as the funds to continually invest in network expansion and new services.
Allowing a customer to use existing equipment, while it sounds good in theory, has some major flaws as well. Phones are customized to the carrier via software. This effects how it will act, sound, etc. on that carriers network. By taking a pho...
(continues)
...
jhmlbrgr said:...
Sorry about that hit enter Occidental: now lets continue.
According to the brochure to get Fair and Flexible America coverage w/ 9:00pm nights the rates are as follows.
400 minutes - $50.00 * 4 months = 200.00
800 minutes - $82.50 * 4 months = 330.00
1200 minutes - $102.50 * 4 months = 410.00
That comes to a grand total of --- $940.00 for one year
Now in order to avoid overage charges you have to be on the VZW 1200 minute Americas Choice Plan at 79.99/ month and that over one year that would come to a total of --- $959.88
Wow what a deal Sprint is offering a savings of $1.66/ month.
I also did another example saying that the customer uses 300 minutes / month for 6 months an
(continues)
...
Now wait are you saying that flucuating between 400 and 1200 minutes is not erratic usage. Sounds pretty erratic to me.
...
jhmlbrgr said:Fluctuating between 400 and 1200 minutes on a monthly basis is exactly what this plan was designed for.
Now wait are you saying that flucuating between 400 and 1200 minutes is not erratic usage. Sounds pretty erratic to me.
...
jhmlbrgr said:HELLO! Earth to jhmlbrgr! This plan is for those who have ERRATIC month to month bills! Geeze.
I have a Sprint Fair and Flexible brochure here in front of me now. Lets do a little math and see how much money you are really saving.
Lets say a customer has a maximum usage of 1200 in a calender year and a minnimum usage for 400 minutes. For arguemnets sake I will say that 4 months out of the year the customer uses 1200, 4 months 800 minutes and 4 months 400 minutes.
Verizon Wireless 1200 minutes plan is 59.99/month
...
jhmlbrgr sorry to tell you man but all of your calculations are wrong. that 1200 for 59.99 a month. yeah you wish. try 1200 for 79.99 verizons 59.99 plan is local aria plan. what happens if they travel and go out of aria?
can you say roaming fees? yes verizon does have out ragious roaming fees.
the fair and flexible plan Sprint offerers is nation wide. yes nation wide. and this for only 35$ you were saying 40$ you are way off in your calculations man.
now if we add 5$ to it we get fair and flexible America where you will get the most coverage of any other carrier with no roaming (yes i know it is using other carriers networks and no i do not want to argue about that.) so for 40$ a month you get coverage any where a carrier has signa...
(continues)
can you say roaming fees? yes verizon does have out ragious roaming fees.
the fair and flexible plan Sprint offerers is nation wide. yes nation wide. and this for only 35$ you were saying 40$ you are way off in your calculations man.
now if we add 5$ to it we get fair and flexible America where you will get the most coverage of any other carrier with no roaming (yes i know it is using other carriers networks and no i do not want to argue about that.) so for 40$ a month you get coverage any where a carrier has signa...
(continues)
...
1. I did use the 79.99 price for the 1200 minute plan.
2. The Fair and Flexible America Plan does not have that more coverage than The VZW Americas Choice Plan, but on the other hand the if you do not add the extra on for the "America" version of the plan it your coverage areas does not even come close to the coverage area of Americas Choice. Why do you think that the only map included in the Fair and Flexible Brochure is the America map. Sure their is the cheaper version of the plan but Sprint does not even include a map of the coverage area I am sure that their is a marketing reason behind that.
3. Veizon has a very small amount of customers on their Single Rate plans, you know why, because America's Choice Plans cover 95% of t...
(continues)
2. The Fair and Flexible America Plan does not have that more coverage than The VZW Americas Choice Plan, but on the other hand the if you do not add the extra on for the "America" version of the plan it your coverage areas does not even come close to the coverage area of Americas Choice. Why do you think that the only map included in the Fair and Flexible Brochure is the America map. Sure their is the cheaper version of the plan but Sprint does not even include a map of the coverage area I am sure that their is a marketing reason behind that.
3. Veizon has a very small amount of customers on their Single Rate plans, you know why, because America's Choice Plans cover 95% of t...
(continues)
...
jhmlbrgr said:That's exactly what this plan is aimed at...erratic month to month users.
I was just looking at the brochure for the Sprint Fair and Flexible plan and man is that expensive. Ok, if you are an extremely erratic user than you might save some money, I mean that one month you use 300 minutes and the next you use 1500 and the next you use 900 minutes, etc. Maybe than you would save some money, but it seems to me that most people tend to have an average usage that is within about 100-150 every month. I do not think that the extra that the customer is paying for this plan is going to save money in the end.
...
I just do not think that thier are that many people who have such a varied usage. Maybe I an wrong, but I see a lot bills everyday and most people do not tend to vary vary more than about 100 or so minutes a month.
...
the fair and flexible is really aimed at 3 groups of people.
group 1 new to wireless... (i am getting My first phone so i have no idea what mins i need.)
fair and flexible is great. you start out with it after a couple of months when you see what your actual usage is you switch over to the tradition style of plan the fits you best.
group 2 low end users.... people that usually fall in the 300-500 min range. these people usually stay in there mins but with the majority there is usually a month or 2 every year they go over. usually when they go on vacation or parents who during the summer when the kids are more active and calling them all threw out the days. teachers especially when they work from 7am-almost 7pm during the school yea...
(continues)
group 1 new to wireless... (i am getting My first phone so i have no idea what mins i need.)
fair and flexible is great. you start out with it after a couple of months when you see what your actual usage is you switch over to the tradition style of plan the fits you best.
group 2 low end users.... people that usually fall in the 300-500 min range. these people usually stay in there mins but with the majority there is usually a month or 2 every year they go over. usually when they go on vacation or parents who during the summer when the kids are more active and calling them all threw out the days. teachers especially when they work from 7am-almost 7pm during the school yea...
(continues)
...
stevelvl said:...
group 2 low end users.... people that usually fall in the 300-500 min range. these people usually stay in there mins but with the majority there is usually a month or 2 every year they go over. usually when they go on vacation or parents who during the summer when the kids are more active and calling them all threw out the days. teachers especially when they work from 7am-almost 7pm during the school year but then in the summer time have a much broader social life.... again those are just a few examples.
blockquote>
A teacher would be much better off being w/ a company that allows you to switch your calling plan at anytime without being penalized. That way once school was out they could bump the
(continues)
...
every carreir will allwo you to switch plans with out being penalized but to switch plans means you have to contact the company eather a call in to customer care (with most carriers) or b go into a store and change plans. why not have a plan that will automatically change? i mean what if you are busy and do not have time to get into a store or what if you aren't paying atention and you go over your mins? sure you can switch you plan with out being penalized but what if you for get to switch you plan? then with every thing but fair and flexable you are penalized
...
Plus there are Carrier who will extend your contact when changing plans as well.
The least talking to CS the better t keep from getting your contract extended without knowing what you did. I have seen that happen.
The least talking to CS the better t keep from getting your contract extended without knowing what you did. I have seen that happen.
...
jhmlbrgr said:Well, when there's 20 million or so customers involved, I'm sure there's plenty who have erratic month to month bills.
I just do not think that thier are that many people who have such a varied usage. Maybe I an wrong, but I see a lot bills everyday and most people do not tend to vary vary more than about 100 or so minutes a month.
...
Think about those poor people who vary only around 100 minutes a month. Let's say that they do use thier 300 or 400 minutes a month, or a within about 10 minutes of that either way, then they wouldn't really care one way or the other.
But those people who are going over by 100 minutes over this will. With your Verizon plans that you keep talking about, that 100 minutes will be a $40 charge, where on Sprint it will be a $10 charge.
But it's like muchdrama said, this is for users with eratic usage. Any halfway decent sales rep would simply show the customer this and sign them up for the 500 minute plan that is only an extra $5 per month.
Thats what I do anyways.
But those people who are going over by 100 minutes over this will. With your Verizon plans that you keep talking about, that 100 minutes will be a $40 charge, where on Sprint it will be a $10 charge.
But it's like muchdrama said, this is for users with eratic usage. Any halfway decent sales rep would simply show the customer this and sign them up for the 500 minute plan that is only an extra $5 per month.
Thats what I do anyways.
...
Are you retarded?? If I used 50 minutes over my plan I would be charged $20 in overage.. If I was on Fair and Flexible, I would be charged $5... Were is the expensive part??
This plan is for nyone who wants a low end plan, but not have to worry about high overage charges for those months when they have to use more minutes...
It's not for those people who use like 500-1000 minutes every month.
This plan is for nyone who wants a low end plan, but not have to worry about high overage charges for those months when they have to use more minutes...
It's not for those people who use like 500-1000 minutes every month.
...
