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thegeekboy

Nov 14, 2005, 8:49 AM
As a 5 year user of Sprint I went to the sprint store to upgrade my sanyo 8100 to the A940. Just as Im about to sign the new 2 yr contract they tell me that I will have to pay a $36 fee. If I had new service via the web they waive the fee but if you are a loyal customer the charge you. Thus, I walked away from the phone.

So now Im free to look at other carriers....what a stupid policy.
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IHeartSprint

Nov 14, 2005, 9:30 AM
There is no fee to upgrade. All you are expected to pay is the price of the phone (after discount). New customer have to pay a $36 ACTIVATION fee (if there is no current promotion), but existing customers are not expected to pay a fee for upgrading. You may need to try a different store or call Customer Care and upgrade through them.
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thegeekboy

Nov 14, 2005, 9:47 AM
Apparently the policy for feeing loyal customers is brand new (within the past week).
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IHeartSprint

Nov 14, 2005, 11:46 AM
That must be only in certain areas then because we don't charge that fee here.
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sunnydiva43

Nov 22, 2005, 2:00 PM
I was told also that Sprint has a new policy of charging a activiation fee. However, the store manager waived for me because this was a problem that stemmed from an earlier situation with a phone swap. I now have the A940, even thought I don't know how to use all the features, but I love the voice dial.
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Alluvin

Dec 8, 2005, 7:02 PM
Here at alamosa you pay an activation fee on upgrades, given we don't call it that.... but thats exactly what it is. With the 22 month rebate on a sanyo 200 it makes it so that you only pay $36.

On a higher model, you pay new customer price + $36.
IMO this is bullshit, there should be no fee when activation for a new customer is even waived. But, ya gotta do what you gotta do.
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Darth Ridiculous

Nov 14, 2005, 12:25 PM
You don't have to pay a 36.00 fee when you upgrade/renew your contract.
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thegeekboy

Nov 14, 2005, 1:31 PM
I'll try another store and I hope you are correct. I literally was signing the form when they said it will be another $36.

Now the big question is 8300 or a940?
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Darth Ridiculous

Nov 26, 2005, 1:54 PM
good question.....8300 has Ready Link, 940 not. 940 has bluetooth, 8300 not. 940 has flash card slot, 8300 not. 8300 proven fantastic reception, 940 not sure. I love the looks and features of both. 940 is a little heavy while the 8300 is light, small and mighty
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Alluvin

Dec 8, 2005, 7:03 PM
If you trust samsung go with the 940, i however do not.
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Darth Ridiculous

Dec 31, 2005, 2:59 PM
Samsung's overall quality LOOKS to have greatly improved in the past few phones. Seems LG (latest Garbage) is now Sprints junk offering. Funny thing is, a lot of VZW reps say LG are their better phones.
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jrewis01

Nov 14, 2005, 4:17 PM
Hey guys...just pulled this from the Sprint Upgrade website. Beginning with the new rate plan guide that began on Thursday, Sprint Nextel now charges a $36 Upgrade fee if the customer is getting a discount on a new handset (so, no upgrade fee if they are using a used phone or something of that nature).

Also, Activation fees are now $36 for the first line and $18 for each add-a-phone.

We are in a Sprint National market, but as far as I know, the affiliates will be having to do this as well...hope this helps!


Sprint PCS New For Youâ„¢ Upgrade Program
Save up to $150 on a new Sprint PCS® phone
This valuable upgrade program provides current Sprint customers with big savings on the newest and most innovative phones. That way, you can...
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dca

Nov 14, 2005, 4:23 PM
What about if you migrate from the Nextel side to the Sprint side? Do you still have fees and what the hel* is up with only getting 50mins for $5 instead of 100 on the F&F plans???
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jrewis01

Nov 14, 2005, 4:26 PM
Nextel to Sprint or Sprint to Nextel gets the upgrade fee waived.

From what Sprint said in its release to employees about the changes, the $5 for $50 was changed to be even with the $0.10 per minute for the higher end spectrum of minutes to make it less confusing to the customers...

Still better than the $0.40 per minute on the old plans.

Hope this helps with your questions!
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IHeartSprint

Nov 14, 2005, 5:24 PM
It does say it MAY APPLY, so you might want to keep checking around. I know we haven't started charging the $36 fee and I am not sure what the stipulations are for why it may apply and/or may not apply.
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jrewis01

Nov 14, 2005, 5:33 PM
What type of location do you work at? I am at a Branded store...just curious.
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thegeekboy

Nov 15, 2005, 9:13 AM
Well now that I have to pay a $36 fee, It doesnt really save me anything to stay with sprint. Im free to look at the other carriers. I think its a really bad policy. I can just take my number and move to cingular or verizon (however, Id prefer to stay with sprint).
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IHeartSprint

Nov 15, 2005, 9:57 AM
thegeekboy said:
I can just take my number and move to cingular or verizon (however, Id prefer to stay with sprint).



If that is the case then why are we here discussing this. Pay the $36 and stay with Sprint or go to Verizon or Cingular and pay their activation fee. Same difference. You need to **** or get off the pot. And that goes out to everyone on this site contemplating switching services. If you are SOOO unsatified....switch and stop complaining. 🙄
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nodeposit

Nov 16, 2005, 2:54 PM
No Sh*t. Quit whining about policies and stuff. Like every parent has told their kids- "If you live under my roof, you follow my rules...you don't like it? Get out. " Why should this be any different? If you are so much better at running a business, why don't you create your own phone company and then we could all sign up w/ you and not have any problems.
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dca

Nov 16, 2005, 3:17 PM
nodeposit said:
why don't you create your own phone company and then we could all sign up w/ you and not have any problems.


Like an MVNO? Oh wait, he'd still probably use Sprint's network...
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ron mexico

Nov 16, 2005, 4:01 PM
It is a stupid policy. Why should he pay an extra $36 bucks, just to get a new phone.
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IHeartSprint

Nov 16, 2005, 4:36 PM
Yeah you are sooo right you shouldn't have to pay anything for a new phone. Maybe we should give you your service for free too. 😛
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thegeekboy

Nov 17, 2005, 11:00 AM
Considering I was just looking for advice, you didn't have to get nasty. But since you did, lets take a look at the first thing Mr. IHeartSprint wrote.. "There is no fee to upgrade. All you are expected to pay is the price of the phone (after discount)." So, we can all agree that he was WRONG. He spoke without knowing the facts.

Message number 2 by IHeartSprint "
That must be only in certain areas then because we don't charge that fee here." Again, he was wrong.

Message number 3 "It does say it MAY APPLY" Here you can see he has waffled on his position. First he says no, then he admits its there.

However, after talking to Customer Care they are willing to waive the fee to keep you as a customer (the whole customer loyalty argum...
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IHeartSprint

Nov 17, 2005, 3:32 PM
thegeekboy said:
Message number 2 by IHeartSprint "
That must be only in certain areas then because we don't charge that fee here." Again, he was wrong.

Sorry geekboy but you are the wrong one this time. How many times do I have to tell you we don't charge the fee in my area. For being a geek you sure don't understand English.

Message number 3 "It does say it MAY APPLY" Here you can see he has waffled on his position. First he says no, then he admits its there.

Wrong again, I was quoting the wed site where it was stating the fee may apply. Again we don't charge the fee in this area. However I will admit I was unaware the fee even existed until it was brought up.

However, after talking to Customer Care they
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nodeposit

Nov 17, 2005, 4:09 PM
Sprint does reward you for being "loyal", they give you a discount on a new phone. Just cause it's not free, you are gonna bitch? Where else can you go (other than cell phone carriers) and get a discount for being loyal? Try going to wal-mart (the place where you get your star wars toys, geek) and see if they will give you a free tv cause you've been shopping there for 2 years. Then when they say no, threaten to go to K-Mart. Guess what, still no free tv. Guess that's bad business too.
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thegeekboy

Nov 17, 2005, 4:40 PM
Actually a lot of the carriers give you the discount on new phones after 2 years. So what was your point? Walmart?? We are talking phone service not retail..again what was your point?

Remember the basic rules of business...
Rule #1 -- The Customer is Always Right; Rule #2 - If the Customer is Ever Wrong, Re-Read Rule #1

But the real difference is I won't have to pay the fee, but you will!

I'm holding out till the Blade arrives.
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nodeposit

Nov 18, 2005, 1:22 PM
Why don't you try reading my message again...where it says- "where else can you go (OTHER THAN CELL PHONE CARRIERS) and get a discount for being loyal"--So I was talking about retail, so whats your point. The customer is not always right, I don't care what your rules say. Oh, and I don't have to pay any fees, I work for sprint.
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thegeekboy

Nov 18, 2005, 5:01 PM
You work? I thought you just surfed phonescoop all day?

And if you want to stay in business, the customer is always right. I'll be writing to the CEO of sprint as will other people who object to this fee. With enough complaints they will pull that fee.

One of the partners in my firm just cancelled his sprint phone. I guess he ran into an employee like you. Good thing as attorneys we can afford other carriers.
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nodeposit

Nov 19, 2005, 11:22 AM
Oh, that was a good one. You got me. You know how many times I hear someone say they are going to "write a letter" to someone important? Please. Why don't you follow your rich attorney friend to another carrier (since you can afford to switch carriers but somehow a $36.00 fee is just too much) and shut up about you think you are above the rules. Oh, and if you count, I think you will find that your name appears more than mine...so who is it that surfs phonescoop more??
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captainplooky

Nov 22, 2005, 2:45 PM
Must be nice to not have to worry about the money you spend.

It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant the positions some of you are willing to argue.
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CptFarlow

Nov 26, 2005, 12:23 PM
I just had to jump in on this, even though it a week later...

First of all, the customer is not always right.

Second, I work for Sprint, and I'm planning on getting the A940 on thursday. I am well aware of the fee, but am I complaining? NO! If you really wanted to phone that bad than you would have bought it. I don't agree with it either, and it is kinda stupid. But do you realize how much it costs to sign a new customer up? $600-800. Even when you upgrade Sprint pays money to the dealer, that being the reason why they charge you the fee.

If you are unhappy with Sprint then leave them for that, but not because of a $36 fee. That's just childish. 🙄
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legacynrs4evr

Dec 16, 2005, 12:54 AM
upgrade fee is charged to balance out convenience of offering existing customers the same deal as a new customer, including instant rebates instead of mail-in. *

We give new customers the best deal to try to get them to commit to make company revenue off MRC. The new customer pays 36, plus the discounted price of the phone. Existing customer pays....u guessed it! 36 plus the discounted price of the phone.

* Look around, specifically pre-merger nextel stores. You might get more than 150 off the SRP of the phone and get the full blown new act price as a qualified existing customer. I support the company but communication on how its supposed to be done is horrible. pre-merger nextels will tend to give the listed ticket price of a phone t...
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ron mexico

Nov 17, 2005, 6:57 PM
IHeartSprint said:
Yeah you are sooo right you shouldn't have to pay anything for a new phone. Maybe we should give you your service for free too. 😛


Where the hell did that come from? I think it's just stupid to charge an EXISTING CUSTOMER an extra $36 with the price of the phone they are getting as a upgrade. I don't care about the new ones. But if you it's fine that's cool, just don't be surprised when people flee to other companies not as willing to take every penny they got.
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freedomrep

Nov 17, 2005, 7:38 PM
Verizon doesnt charge upgrade act fees
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ron mexico

Nov 17, 2005, 8:12 PM
freedomrep said:
Verizon doesnt charge upgrade act fees


Neither does Tmobile and Cellone/Alltel. I don't think Cingular does, it's been awhile since I sold them.
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thegeekboy

Nov 18, 2005, 4:57 PM
Cingluar is my other option if I dont go back to sprint. Cingular as well as Sprint gives you the option of starting your night minutes at 7 pm.

I'll write the CEO of sprint objecting to the policy. That should get an response.
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captainplooky

Nov 22, 2005, 2:42 PM
Congratulations on missing the point entirely and on clearly demonstrating your lack of critical thinking skills.
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lgmack

Nov 28, 2005, 6:43 AM
I work at best buy and sprint is charging $18 for esn changes......sucks...
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kbake

Dec 7, 2005, 2:45 PM
that is any wireless carriers option and evry carrier charges a upgrade fee!!! deal with it or leave. rules are rules and at the store level it cant be waived
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Airone

Dec 7, 2005, 4:14 PM
That is not true Verizon does not charge a upgrade fee. They waive any activation fees and also give 100.00 off on any new phone with a renewal.
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thegeekboy

Dec 8, 2005, 9:00 AM
Sounds like you are wrong mr kbake.
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cellkat03

Dec 7, 2005, 6:01 PM
Sprint does charge $36 to upgrade, but they are giving you new customer pricing all the phones. On some phones you end up saving more than $150 on.. some phones there is just a few dollars difference. In my personal opinion I wouldn't switch carries over a few dollars. Now if you were having problems besides the price of your upgrade... then look around. But if everything is great, but the upgrade fee, you'll end up paying an activation fee if you switch to a different carrier.
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kbake

Dec 10, 2005, 6:44 PM
wow that makes me want to go to verizon to save 10 of the full retail price you are getting screwed
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darkvampira

Dec 15, 2005, 12:29 AM
In our market Sprint does charge a $36 activation fee. Pretty much everywhere you go they charge that. Whenever I do an upgrade I tell them about the fee and if I can't get an approval to waive the activation fee then I give them some accessories. Pretty much whenever you want to do an upgrade you will get $150 or more instant rebate and yea you just pay a one time fee of $36 and that's it. I did it when I upgraded my phone because I'm happy with the service and even if I go to another company I will still get charged regardless.
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thegeekboy

Dec 15, 2005, 8:52 AM
Well to put an end to this thread....

I finally changed phones (a Samsung A920) and I did it all over the phone. Sprint waived the fees, gave me an extra discount on the service and an extra discount on the phone and I was a happy customer again.

THE END
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Big Poppa

Dec 16, 2005, 1:50 PM
IMHO, Sprint charging this high of an activation fee is crazy! Activation fees should be banned. It is just another way to milk the consumer for extra money. What does this $36 pay for? the 2 minutes it takes for a rep to type in a 11 digit number??

What point is having a $150 rebate when you technically only get $114 off.

Sprint tried this before when I was working for them, and it did not last. Most of the employees wouldnt even add the fee to the account because they felt it was unjust.
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darkvampira

Dec 20, 2005, 9:25 PM
i agree when i used to work for corp we used to charge the act fee for upgrading but i used to not add the code so they won't get charged or get my manager to waive it. then, they came up with the fact that they won't be charging the act fee for any upgrade which was great now they decided to come back with it!! 😳 i've already to call in to waive the fee to almost every customer i have but i doubt it'll last long though.
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