Not sure sure why roaming is coming up, but i wasnt roaming

This simply isn't true. Any further comment on my part could be construed as proprietary info so I'll leave it at that. Your example is not true. VZ has agreements with all kinds of Mom and Pop carriers, some with fewer towers than UBET.

I believe it is all alltel in that area and verizon has little coverage in that area but hey VZW and Alltel have great roaming agreements that make both a lot better carriers.

the point is they had no service...

alltel better than sprint?LMAO

In the locations that Alltell is offered, it is very true. Alltell is better than most national carriers because they have a smaller area of focus, especially better than Sprint.

but not in this example

yes in ruel arias altel does have better coverage then the national carriers.... but of course the national carriers don't focus on ruel coverage and altel does

first learn how to spell rural.
second their are plenty or rural area in nc/cs that altel doesnt cover

dont know about you, but i like no roaming charges for a flat 5.00 on sprint.

im not making excuses...i work for verizon wireless in tech support and once you leave the raliegh/durham area it becomes extended network...so yes on i-95 from right at the nc/sc border on north for a large part of that coastal area of nc, it is extended network.

they lost service almost as soon as we entered raleigh, once we left burlington actually

that's unfortunate and strange that they had problems in the raleigh/durham area itself...its covered pretty well. i get few complaints about coverage there..as i just said in a post in a reply to another person i dont know every single coverage area based on if its verizon or ext net off the top of my head, we are responsible for texas on up to va, but i think a conservative guess of nc ext net coverage is 10-20 percent vs our coverage. if they travel the area again and have problems have them call us asap and we will research..thats what tech is there for..there can be any number of things happening there and we will rectify it if we can

is funny how rational you make it sound, however it we were talking about sprint, people would be saying sprint sucks, i'm canceling my service, etc....

When was the last PRL update? Were they using tri mode phones? I worked for srint in one of the largest service centers in ohio and I can tell you right now that there are TONS of places and examples that I can give you where sprint falls flat on their rump compared to verizon and it is even in metro areas. Bottom line is Anyone can pick many spots that there phone works and others do not. Hell tmobile may even have spots where they work and verizon does not. However it's the mojority of the area and the majority of what works fore more customers. Looking at sprints churn I would say it isn't working for most..

When was the last PRL update? Were they using tri mode phones? I worked for srint in one of the largest service centers in ohio and I can tell you right now that there are TONS of places and examples that I can give you where sprint falls flat on their rump compared to verizon and it is even in metro areas.

And i agree with this...All i'm saying is verizon is not as perfect as many people like to portray here. Working as store manager with radioshack in nj and with sprintpcs in charlotte, nc, i have horror stories about both carriers. I canceled my verizon soon as i left radioshack because for my needs at that time, they sucked, customer service and coverage. I had the best trimode phones from both carriers at th...
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I think his point was Sprint pretty much covers all major highways where obviously (if this whole thing is in fact true) is that vzw doesnt.

i cant speak for the advertising dept, i havent looked at one of the coverage maps given out in the stores and such in a long time, but i work in technical support and i know that once you hit the outskirts of the raliegh/durham area, it becomes extended network for a while. our dept services the whole south east so i dont have every ext network vs verizon coverage area memorized, but i do know offhand that NC coastal area has a good sized extended network coverage area....willmington is a good example...and the area surrounding raliegh durham...if anyone wants to know if an area will be ext net or not all you have to do is call cust service or tech support and they can pull up a map and tell you.

Ive actually seen disclaimers (mainly alltel) where they show you a map and in itty bitty print at the bottom it basically says that the map may or may not be accurate. Now, this COULD be because service areas grow but maps dont, OR they're lying and covering their butt in fine print.

You are right but I have seen them on all maps except for maybe T-mobile. The difficult parts with these maps is they use the roaming parts also and since they do not run the towers they have to rely on the info from there competitors.

it's obvious the fool who started this post is the liar.. This is even funnier than the people whoi say cingular service is better than verizon 🤣 🤣 🤣 Maybe I will stick around this thread for a while to educate you zombies

lmao

thats so funny. i was just thinking the same thing. 🤣

you a LIER.... isn't it "liar"? but regardless there is nothing to LIE about, sprint pcs reception is the shizznit, no questions asked. come one hate on sprint. can you hear us now? good! lol

You dont have to be roaming to be using someone elses towers. Technically you are roaming but since Sprint has agreements with those other carriers then you are not getting charged for roaming. For example, in my area the CDMA towers are Alltel and NTelos but Sprint is offered here and uses those towers.

my phone is set to sprint only.
Its very obvious when a sprint phone roams.
My phone never roamed, it stayed on sprint, never went to Analog or digital roam.

I know that. Your phone isnt going to say raoming because with the agreements they have with each other. Sprint's home towers in my area are really NTelos.It would only say roam if it were in a CDMA area but didnt have roaming agreements with anyone.

you are totally wrong. Your phone says analog or digital any time you are not on sprints network. Your phone cant roam if the carrier doesnt have roaming agreements, in that case you get a message that says to contact that carriers customer service becuase your account can not be authenticated.

Sprint is nothing more than a roaming agreement carrier look at there native network it's spiderwebbed worse than t-mobile! 🤣 How can any of you even think this carrier is for real? When they start giving away free incoming and nights at 6 that means they are desperate for customers because there network stinks 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

i think you are confusing verizon and sprint. Verizon is only a patchwork newtwork of smaller crappy networks.

yeah ok buddy time to wake up from your dream!!!

proof is in the pudding...look at the coverage maps that prove sprints network is all along the 185/195 interstate, from ny to fl, while verizon has no coverage in many major metrro areas in the same areas

youre a moron. dude, roaming IS USING ANOTHER CARRIERS TOWERS

Well you can roam on your own companies towers when you are out of your local area and in a different market or even if you have a local plan and are once again out of your home area.

true

lol people do keep bringing up roaming

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Have any of you ever looked at a sprint coverage map detailing the areas that are actually OWNED by sprint and then their actual coverage area? If you haven't, find it online. Then go to verizon's website, and look at verizon's coverage map. If you compare the two, you'll quickly realized that 90% of sprint's coverage comes from roaming on Verizon's network! The actual coverage area that sprint owns is MINISCULE compared to Verizon's. Check it out for yourself:

Here is a map of Sprint's coverage. The dark green is THEIR OWNED network. See the light green? That's ALL Verizon.

http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/coverage/NatwideNe ... »

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Thank you, steve, i was doing my best to prove that info but everyone who has been on here a little while knows youre usually dead-on. 😁

gumby said:
Have any of you ever looked at a sprint coverage map detailing the areas that are actually OWNED by sprint and then their actual coverage area? If you haven't, find it online. Then go to verizon's website, and look at verizon's coverage map. If you compare the two, you'll quickly realized that 90% of sprint's coverage comes from roaming on Verizon's network! The actual coverage area that sprint owns is MINISCULE compared to Verizon's. Check it out for yourself:

Here is a map of Sprint's coverage. The dark green is THEIR OWNED network. See the light green? That's ALL Verizon.

http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/coverage/NatwideNe ... »

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thanks for providing that verizon map. You just proved my point. When you look at the verizon map you see outside of raleigh there is no service on i85. when you look at sprints map for the same area there is sprint service all along the i95/i85 corridor.

I never said there aren't spots that sprint has coverage that verizon does not. In fact, there are probably many areas that Sprint has coverage that Verizon does not. Same goes for Cingular, TMobile, etc.

You may be in an area where you will be better served by a mobile company that does not lead the industry in nationwide coverage. If so, more power to ya. Go for the carrier that best suits your needs.

If you want the best chances of getting nationwide coverage though, go with Verizon. I'm not saying it's the best choice for everyone. ALL I'm saying is that it's the best choice for the majority of cell subscribers.

Or he can just stick with what works with him. Which seems to be sprint. Verizon has the largest coverage area but did you know that a regional carrier called Alltel has the nation’s largest owned and operated wireless network in America.

where i live in travel, new york to florida, i have had less problems with sprint than i have had with "Can you here me now". So all i can say is verizon claims to have the most reliable nationwide network however they dont cover a major area in nc(and are very spotty in northern new jersey). Why would I trust them nationwide when they can cover one of the busiest interstates in the country?

huge difference, but, not a true representation. Had Sprint made all their roaming areas the same color as their network, like VZW did cuz stevelvl said so and he is hardly ever wrong, (lol) then sprints map would look similar.

I love hearing sprint and cingy reps talk about Vzw b/c basically they just show how little they know about who it is that is kicking their butts!!! If you look at a Vzw map... See the pink that doesn't match the red that's our exteneded network! or otherwise known as our "roaming areas" Oh and by the way if your in the white your phone doesn't work. So b4 any of you cingy and sprint reps begin to respond please do your research. I realize that these lies and half truths work when your dealing with customers but come on guys we really are the experts!!!

ummmmm, ok

Don't forget about the NationalAccess and Enhanced Services map, National SingleRate map, BroadbandAccess and V Cast map, and the popular America's Choice maps (pre and post 2/21/05). Oh, and I can't forget the Digital, Extended Digital, Analog, Extended Analog, and Roaming parts of those maps as well.

You'd need to be an expert to explain all that to a customer.

Once again another sprint or cing rep trying to pass the bs off on us that they force feed their customers. The National Enhanced service map is simply showing where we have upgraded towers to Ev-Do speeds. As far as Digital Choice those plans are all grandfathered and bear no relavance anymore. The map you should focus on is the AC because thats the one that continually day after day beats the **** out of the competition. It's amazing because I can find so many things that are really important that are wrong with other carriers but the best you can come up with is what coverage map names are! But then again I shouldn't expect much of an educated response from any sprint rep. If all of your roaming partners cancelled on you your coverage map...
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Seriously, don't you shut up? Over and over and over. You just have to go wherever you can to try to find people to beleive you. What do you expect, flocks of Sprint or Cingular reps to say "Oh Freedom, you're right. Forgive us of our evil ways. Lo, we have chosen a cellular provider that you are not subscribed under. Will you please, out of the kindness of your heart, allow us to join Verizon?" Bitch please.
Get a life. You really must not be able to sell if this is all you do every day. Serious, every day you run your mouth. If anyone wants to check this loser's life, look at his user info. Seriously, let it go, dogg.

Springaf! How amazingly childish you really are! Dogg. Come on man we can both talk all kinds of fly gangster **** online but really man I'm a little to old for that. I understand your mad b/c you cannot make any kind of intelligent come back, but really man to personally attack me in every forum that I post come on please grow up and stop this!

Ah, but the maps do matter. There are certain services that are only available under certain maps, so you'll have to know where you are in each map at all times.

Let's say you signed me up on the Freedom whatever, but I also signed up on one of your unlimited text and pic when IN plans. We'll, I'll have my unlimited IN calling from the AC calling network, but my unlimited text and pic only works in the Enhanced Service area. So I could be talking mobile to mobile perfectly fine, but not able to send a text IN network.

So, tell me I'm wrong.

Who cares who owns the network??!?!?!?!?! If your phone works, and you don't have to pay extra, what's the argument about? Everyone just shut the hell up about it already.

i guess having to maintain a gazillion towers makes them the best. Whatever.

exactly!!! Sprint is a tiny network if you are actually using there network half the time 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

so do you, at least alltel does not swallow 🙂

now why do i suck? tell me and i'll tell you why alltel sucks. you dont know me but i do know a little about a deceitful 227 line deal an alltel rep did in my market.

check out the thread i started called buyout regulations

Darth Ridiculous said:
now why do i suck? tell me and i'll tell you why alltel sucks. you dont know me but i do know a little about a deceitful 227 line deal an alltel rep did in my market.

what did he do?

long story, look at the thread titled buyout regulations. dude made it "appear" that the corp. could keep same plan pricing when in fact they had to switch to alltel's which is considerably higher. the former locally owned company's pricing was waaaaay below national market average

YOu cannot blame a fraudulent rep on the whole company because ALL of the companies have bad reps. Just because you know of one bad Alltel rep does not mean alltel sucks. At least there you can take a plan not get locked into 2 yr contracts just for updating or taking a plan namely one where nights start 2 hours earlier.

I agree, i think they advertise a larger than real coverage area

I think your dreaming... zzzz...zzzzz.... wake up sprints native network is a JOKE!!!!! 🤣 🤣 They will never really compete with verizon so maybe this forum is a joke. Back to cingular forum to enlighten more people 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

I remember my sis saying that they went to va somewhere near washington and that she had suncom and was roaming on t-mobile and her friend had cingular and he didn't have a signal.

I've NEVER had any problems with sprint, other than customer service, I have many friens who are "IN" with verizon and they want "OUT" pretty bad.

Sprint rules. 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁