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Well it's about time

Sgt_Joker

Apr 2, 2011, 4:16 PM
We already knew that!...but hey they were first! Laughing
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wireless.praying.mantis

Apr 3, 2011, 4:31 PM
Being first isn't always a good thing. I believe WiMAX was definitely not the right path for Sprint Nextel's 4G network. Globally as well as domestically speaking, LTE whips the llama's ass (as Winamp puts it) when it comes to 4G deployment Sgt Joker. This is one of the reason's why Dan Hesse, the Sprint Nexel CEO, doesn't want to see at&t absorb T-Mobile. 79% of not only the voice network/market(GSM) will be dominated by them and Verizon Wireless, but the data one(LTE) will be too. Why do you think 1xEVDO Rev B was abandoned? You got it, WiMAX. If Sprint Nextel ends up going LTE, which I sure they will once Steven Elfman sniffs the Columbian Jaun Valdez Gold, there will be a bunch of POed customer who have already purchased 3/4G devices and...
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Azeron

Apr 4, 2011, 7:07 AM
I believe that they will. There have been too many press releases crowing about how soon they could switch to LTE. If you love the woman you're with, you don't brag to anyone who will listen about how you could dump her for another lady whenever you feel like it. As far as Wi-Max being the incorrect path. I do not know if it is true, but nearly every Sprint-phile who defends Sprint for making that choice has insisted that Sprint had to use its spectrum or lose it and Wi-Max was ready and LTE was not at the time. If this IS the case then it would be nice if people would stop whipping Sprint for making the decision it did.
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nextel18

Apr 3, 2011, 11:08 PM
We of course knew this yes. Sprint is in a world of trouble no matter how you dice it.
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Sgt_Joker

Apr 2, 2011, 4:20 PM
Sprint is no longer the “4G king,” BTIG Research analyst Walter Piecyk proclaimed on Friday following a massive speed test that pitted Sprint’s HTC EVO 4G against Verizon Wireless’ HTC ThunderBolt. Piecyk and his team conducted more than 1,000 speed tests in New York City to determine which was faster: the ThunderBolt, running on Verizon Wireless’ 4G LTE network, or the EVO 4G, running on Sprint’s 4G WiMAX network. The analyst found that Verizon’s offering was consistently and significantly faster than Sprint’s 4G phone. The speed tests were conducted using the integrated mobile hotspot functions on both devices, and the testers were equipped with both an Apple iPad 2 and a Toshiba laptop...
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Jayshmay

Apr 3, 2011, 4:26 PM
I don't think it's necessarily an LTE Vs. WiMax thing but moreso a frequency thing. I'm sure if WiMax was running on the same 700mhz band that ATT & Vzn have that it would be comparable speeds.
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Azeron

Apr 4, 2011, 7:16 AM
...and it offers better coverage."

This is very damning. Sprint had best hire some firm to conduct its own test to refute this or this could be a PR nightmare.
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Jayshmay

Apr 9, 2011, 10:41 AM
It isn't about WiMax Vs. LTE. It's the spectrum frequencies. if Sprint were smart they would use the 800mhz that IDEN is on for 4G.
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Azeron

Apr 9, 2011, 7:43 PM
Really? Do they have that much 800 to pull it off?
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Jayshmay

Apr 9, 2011, 7:46 PM
Heck if I know.

Hey, here's a surprise for'ya. I have a date tomorrow!!!
I'm a small town New England guy in Las Vegas, so it's kinda hard for me to meet anybody here.
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Azeron

Apr 9, 2011, 8:36 PM
Well...if you're looking for a wife, yeah. But if you're looking for a good time...different story. Congrats to you. Do EVERYTHING that I wouldn't do, my friend.
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Jayshmay

Apr 10, 2011, 1:37 AM
She seems to ne pretty special. She doesn't smoke, she's not a snotty moody b**ch.
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 4:59 PM
ayy Smile
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 5:01 PM
Hey, I've got a question for you, if you are the same username I think you are, have you been gone for a long time?
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 5:02 PM
i have been gone for a long time.
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 5:04 PM
Ah! So then, you are who I thought.

If you don't mind me asking, what happened, it was quite a while.
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 5:08 PM
i am who you thought.

no worries. i had business and school to take care of. got a new puppy. did some traveling. you know?
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 5:11 PM
Interesting. Your an older person, right? Do you remember me?

I am no longer with ATT. I've been with Verizon now for almost 13 months, am using the LG Ally.
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 5:14 PM
i am a very older person Smile i sometimes remember people. you? im not sure. i think you mentioned that you didnt like AT&T serivce or Sprint service and was going to switch.. i see that you did indeed switch. you do whats best for you Smile
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 5:25 PM
Well, I mostly did it for 2 reasons. I wanted Android, and at that time, and well still now I don't find any of their Android smartphones to be desirable. Reason 2. Their raking in billions, and billions of $$$'s and yet did nothing during 08, 09, to increase 3G data speeds. I just felt like ATT wasn't ambitous ebough for me.

Anyway, I've been seeing you post recently, I just wasn't too sure if you were who I thought you were, or someone just happen to have a similar username.

Well, I'm certainly glad your back in the Phone Scoop neighborhood. You've always had insightful posts.

If my memory serves me right, you know a lot about financial sort of stuff.
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 5:45 PM
hahah AT&T now has android. the motorola atrix and inspire are some fantastic looking phones. AT&T does spend a lot of money so you would think that they will be able to expand their coverage. one ofthe reasons why they purchased t-mobile. anyway thats another story.

well thank ya jay Smile

yes i know lots of financial stuff.
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 5:53 PM
Reguarding the Atrix & Inspire. I'm not into all touch phones. I'm one of those sorts of people who has to have a real, physical slideout keyboard. And in the category, ATT doesn't have any intriging Android smartphones with real, physical, slideout keyboards.

You know what? I even remember your gravatar! I believe it was a Roman soldier.

Another thing too is, I broke up with Motorola like a bad girlfriend!!! When I first joined Verizon I had the original Motorola Droid. The touchscreen was crap, the keyboard was crap, buttons even fell off!!! And the charging port was crap! The touchscreen would act all wacky while it was plugged in charging.

I have no complaints thus far about the LG Ally with the exception that it has way, way to...
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 5:57 PM
yea some people dont like the all touch phones, but then again.. iphone! even the windows phones are starting to progress.

yea, my gravatar was the american express logo. Smile

I started to go away from Motorola because they 1. formed into 2 groups and 2. started to make awful phones.

LG makes pretty solid phones.
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 6:01 PM
Well why don't you complete your journey BACK into the Phone Scoop neighborhood and have the same gravitar?
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 6:17 PM
yes dad
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 6:21 PM
Laughing !

Yay!!! The wifi has been fixed in my apartment conplex. Love'n that 10mbps! ! ! Click and I'm there.

Well I'm glad an old Phone Scoop friend is back around. Somebody has to neutralize the extreme bias and fanboism around here.
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 6:30 PM
hahah i am not sure if anyone will be able to neutralize the extreme bias on the site . alot of people have their own agenda.

yea i have verizon FIOS; boy fast speed!

oh Sprint better do LTe
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 6:34 PM
Verizon FIOS? Show off! Verizon FIOS isn't availabe here in Vegas. Where do you live again?
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 6:36 PM
i live in MA. yea verizon fios is very nice!! i was thinking with going with xfinity from comcast but people were complaining to much and i had them.
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 6:39 PM
So what sort of speeds do you get with Verizon FIOS? 30/50mbps?

With 10mbps that I get with the wifi in my apartment complex that is from Cox when I click on something it is literally damn near instant.

So your in Mass. I'm originally from Ct.
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Cellenator

Apr 11, 2011, 6:42 PM
I get 400 mpps on my lg 6100!
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 6:43 PM
Umm,...are you trying to ne funny Eh?
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 6:48 PM
i have 25mb/s up 25mb/s down. i dont really see that lol but yea.
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 6:50 PM
Well, that 25 up would be good for high quality video conferencing. Do you do that? Today I am getting 5mbps upload.

So how much does 25 up/down cost?
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 6:51 PM
i use skype a lot. i have all my systems (video game) hooked up to wifi.. i also have my computers set up to wifi. my cell phones and pdas as well. so i probably am using all of the bandwidth Smile

i dont recall how much it costs. its a pretty penny.
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 6:55 PM
Dang! You've got quite the setup!

I'm curious. What wifi router do you use. The leasing office @ my apartment complex use an Xtreme Gaming router, Wifi N of course, it has 3 antennas, and my apartment is conveniently located directly above the leasing office, so I get a spectacular signal!
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 6:58 PM
i am using the one verizon provided me with. i dont think its an N. i was thinking of getting one, but i just never had the time.
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Jayshmay

Apr 11, 2011, 7:01 PM
N is awesome! Now that it is the warmer time of year, I am looking forward to my apartment complex setting up the picnic tables outside so I can enjoy the Vegas nightime weather and be browsing the web.
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2011, 7:08 PM
i know N is awesome. more channels more range.
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Cellenator

Apr 11, 2011, 6:35 PM
hey nextel18 is sprint going to make a massive comeback and take over the wireless world!!!???!!!
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nextel18

Apr 9, 2011, 9:51 PM
Nextel has 14mhz of 800mhz spectrum. It isnt enough just on its own but if they combine it to their existing holdings, it is enough.
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planethulk

Apr 29, 2011, 10:59 PM
They don't actually have to. The publishers of the study said that this was from one location and not to be taken as an example of service in all of NYC. They said that themselves. I'm pretty sure I can find more than a few spots where Verizon's LTE will perform worse than Sprint's 4G. I'm sure I can try it a thousand times and then I can publish this study and "prove" that LTE is worse than Wimax. And my "study" would be just as worthless as this one.
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SEM

Apr 2, 2011, 4:23 PM
You can't argue with the results, but that shows one city only. I guarantee that I could focus on one city as well and come to the exact opposite results.
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Sgt_Joker

Apr 2, 2011, 5:59 PM
I seriously doubt that! Laughing
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Jayshmay

Apr 3, 2011, 4:35 PM
I've gotten 10+ mb/s on WiMax quite a few times, even 15mb/s. In Las Vegas. NYC is full of high rise/skyscraper buildings so there is a whole lot of signal interference.
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WhoDey

Apr 4, 2011, 12:20 PM
well then that settles it, if you seriously doubt it.
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Jayshmay

Apr 3, 2011, 4:28 PM
Not only that, but this one city happens to have dozens, and dozens, and dozens of high-rise/skyscraper buildings to interfere with the signal.
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Azeron

Apr 4, 2011, 7:20 AM
Do it man! If you can you will be RICH! Sprint is probably looking for someone to do exactly that.
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Azeron

Apr 4, 2011, 7:24 AM
LTE could be blazing fast. I don't know and I will never personally experience it as long as Verizon plans to cap it. What's the point of going faster if I have to stop at an arbitrary line? Verizon has already said that LTE will only be Unlimited for a short while and then they are pulling the plug on that feature and users will have to sign up for the capped one. No thanks. I will ride 3G until they pull the plug on it.
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WhoDey

Apr 4, 2011, 12:08 PM
1000 tests in the same place will ALWAYS give the same result. I question whether the moron that did the tests even knew how to turn on 4G on the Evo, as those "results" are obviously 3G service speeds.

I can produce the same exact test in the other direction if I find a place that has poor verizon service.. so if I do that test 2000 times, does that mean its twice as valid as this bullshit "research"

Oh and also.. this BTIG is the same "company" that decided that calling abunch of verizon stores and asking whoever picked up the phone which phone was selling better, and then call that a win for the thunderbolt over the iPhone.

Morons, and people are reporting it like its real information.
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acdc1a

Apr 4, 2011, 2:58 PM
How fast do you need to surf on a phone?
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vercetti

Apr 5, 2011, 8:07 AM
they goofed:

Bloggers agree. Zach Epstein from Boy Genius Reports writes, “Our tests support Sprint’s stance and further suggest that BTIG’s testing may have been flawed.” And Marin Perez from IntoMobile says, “In my experience with Sprint 4G WiMax, I’ve found that it does generally offer at least 5 Mbps.”

Remember, while speed tests will come and go, Sprint continues to offer consumers and businesses a dependable 4G network, more 4G devices and truly unlimited 4G plans. And this is why we are America’s favorite 4G network.
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cellphoneguy

Apr 5, 2011, 11:59 AM
vercetti said:
Remember, while speed tests will come and go, Sprint continues to offer consumers and businesses a dependable 4G network, more 4G devices and truly unlimited 4G plans. And this is why we are America’s favorite 4G network.


AHAHAHAHA could'nt be farther from the truth and if it was a true statement they would'nt be so far behind the top two! Laughing
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vercetti

Apr 5, 2011, 12:16 PM
LOL the dependable, sprint is as much so as LTE, they are all new and unpredictable as verizon had trouble right out of the gate. Sprint with more devices, um yes, ALOT more, americas fav 4g, so far yes, sprint has more 4G users than the rest combined since they have been in it for over a year. And they are truely unlimited on 4G as verizon is, but verizon will tier this summer.
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cellphoneguy

Apr 5, 2011, 2:35 PM
Listen, in order to make these claims you need to speak the TRUTH! Sprint is running more on 3.5g not real 4g. How many tablets does sprint have? Another point is where is this awesome phone selection? I can think of 2 maybe 3 and thats it. By the end of the summer verizon will have the droid x,droid x2, droid 2 global, droid 3, thunberbolt, bionic, incredible, incredible 2, galaxy s2, htc trophy and of course the iphone 4 and most likely the iphone 5 not to mention ipad, ipad 2, xoom, galaxy tabs, blackberry playbook and a slew more tabs so again state facts please. Also for the last time sprint folks claim to be so great but the numbers don't lie and last time i checked verizon has DOUBLE the custy base and i can't lie. When somebody comes...
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vercetti

Apr 6, 2011, 5:53 AM
sprint will have 3-4 tabs by summer, 4 hotspots, and evo3D. Who has the 2 tops devices according to CTEA for 2010 Evo and Epic, poor Droid X was 4th. Sorry Sad
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cellphoneguy

Apr 6, 2011, 11:30 AM
Verizon has the better,faster and bigger network and that's why they have the most custys end of story. Sorry cry baby sprint fanboy sprint will always be an after thought to the top two main carriers! Your like the redheaded step child that has to try and live up to the older brothers that have had way more success then you ever will.
To prove my point Verizon announced the iphone while sprint announced a kyocera device. Sprint sould feel kinda like this Embarassed while evryone else is like this Laughing at Sprint.
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vercetti

Apr 6, 2011, 11:38 AM
all the while consumer reports wont recommend the Iphone on verizon to to their new found dropped call rate with the iphone, and slower than AT&T data. Oh sprint just racked in 4 more network and customer service awards by JD power that Verizon did not.
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cellphoneguy

Apr 6, 2011, 11:43 AM
Which means nothing i mean look at tmobile. Say what you want but at the end of the day sprints verizons doormat and nothing will ever change that.
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vercetti

Apr 6, 2011, 12:14 PM
Verizon has as good network, but they are as big as they are through purchases and mergers, not because their network is that great, def not pricing at $194.00/month 2 lines 2 iphone 4's (based on their site estimator)
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cellphoneguy

Apr 6, 2011, 1:44 PM
Verizon added 955,000 new customers in the fourth quarter of 2010 sprint added 55,000 new customers. Such a big diffrence but why if sprint so great and offers the best of everything?
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This_Troper

Apr 6, 2011, 1:48 PM
For Shame.
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Azeron

Apr 6, 2011, 10:59 PM
Let's see...

Bell Atlantic Mobility, Air Touch Cellular, GTE, Alltel, Prime Co, Century Tel, Radiophone...probably a few more in there that I missed. Sure Verizon is HUGE. Mergers and acquisitions get it done every time. Having parent companies with deep pockets will do that for you though. It's not a virtue. It's a lucky break. Give Verizon credit where it is due and move on. Please.
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pickles

Apr 7, 2011, 3:45 AM
verizon launched the iphone 4 after it was already almost a year old, and they launched it after YEARS of exclusivity with their friends at at&t. how is that new or innovative? are you retarded? they got the most custys cause of acquisitions and mergers, not cuz they're "the bestest!!!" so how does that verizon kool aid taste? don't drink too much, they put antifreeze in it.
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cellphoneguy

Apr 8, 2011, 10:02 AM
So let me get this right noobie your saying you would rather have the kyocera then the iphone? Why can't sprint get the iphone?
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dj89

Apr 8, 2011, 3:22 PM
Dan Hesse is not as, ahem, *talented* with Steve Jobs as the CEOs form VZW and AT&T.
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cellphoneguy

Apr 8, 2011, 4:57 PM
Laughing
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5tr0uble5

Apr 8, 2011, 11:09 PM
Shocked
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pickles

Apr 8, 2011, 10:30 PM
lol that's not what i said at all fool! nice straw man bro. sprint can't get the iPhone cause their customers couldn't afford it anyway.
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pickles

Apr 8, 2011, 10:31 PM
THAN not then. go back to english class, noobie.
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tpusa

Apr 13, 2011, 1:30 PM
thunderbolt is a better phone than the iphone
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pickles

Apr 7, 2011, 3:49 AM
that the "study" was posted on april fools day? too bad the idiots that think that study means anything don't get the joke.
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hombre_melaza

Apr 17, 2011, 8:52 AM
Laughing
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planethulk

Apr 29, 2011, 11:11 PM
That was the first thing I noticed Laughing

I also think it's funny that they are doing this "study" with a LTE network with very few devices running on it compared to the amount of devices on the Sprint 4G network. I promise when Verizon has as many 4G devices running on their networks that Sprint does, the numbers will change. Capacity affects speed. That's just science. This "study" also stated that it was from one location and not to be taken as a representation of service in all of NYC.
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