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Will Bad Business Decisions Spell Sprint's Downfall?

deepskyblue

Apr 19, 2010, 4:00 PM
Sprints desire to be first at something led them to pick out WiMax as their 4G standard. WiMax was going to be the first standard of it's kind to hit the market.

Sprints decision at the time probably made sense, the company has been losing billions of dollars over the past years, and has the highest churn rate (customer loss) of all U.S. carriers. I'm sure it seemed to the sprint execs that customers needed SOME reason to pick sprint, when it couldn't compete with larger carriers in terms of network, devices, and services and couldn't compete with prepaid services and smaller carriers in terms of price. At the time the biggest players in the U.S wireless industry weren't going to be rolling out their 4G networks for 2 or 3 years after ...
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gloopey1

Apr 19, 2010, 4:09 PM
...about two years ago ๐Ÿคฃ
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rarodrig26

Apr 19, 2010, 4:11 PM
Filled with so many assumptions and mis-information that it made my head explode, can't even pick a place to begin to point out the flaws in this.
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gloopey1

Apr 19, 2010, 4:17 PM
Trollin', he's trollin', trollin' on the forum.
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deepskyblue

Apr 20, 2010, 10:23 AM
if you think parts aren't acurate, please specify and provide some sources as to why they are not.

you saying that there are inaccuracies doesn't mean anything unless you can back it up.
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Amarantamin

Apr 20, 2010, 1:23 PM
Just because you spend the time to create a full article of 'irrelevant', and nobody feels like meeting your demands of picking through it and pointing out every lie (seriosuly, we would be here all day), it does not make you correct. It just means nobody wants to waste the time on something so silly.
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deepskyblue

Apr 20, 2010, 5:55 PM
it sounds like your position is "while we have the ability to learn the truth, we prefer to believe what we want to believe"
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Amarantamin

Apr 20, 2010, 6:29 PM
If that helps you sleep at night. ๐Ÿคจ
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diggitydogg76

Apr 22, 2010, 6:28 PM
Where are the sources for the original article? You cant just make a statement then challenge us to disprove it! Well, I guess you can ... after all you did ... but dont expect us to jump through your hoops.
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Amarantamin

Apr 19, 2010, 5:54 PM
But I suggest a literary college before you try to become a reporter. Checking facts should be high up on your list of things to do.

My only question is, why put so much time and effort into a (not very well-crafted or articulate) lie?
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deepskyblue

Apr 20, 2010, 11:32 AM
well actually i have a degree in mass communications.

and again, if you think something is inacurate, prove me wrong.
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sunilsonia

Apr 20, 2010, 11:36 AM
deepskyblue said:
well actually i have a degree in mass communications.

and again, if you think something is inacurate, prove me wrong.


The fact that the common denominator here is you posting these long and ranting anti-Sprint posts makes all of us believe that they are full of inaccuracies galore. Enough said!
๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ
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fairseth1304

Apr 20, 2010, 11:36 AM
Why don't you prove that your right? Keep spreading your trash.
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deepskyblue

Apr 20, 2010, 4:24 PM
wimax - speed 40mbps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimax »

hspa+ - speed 54mbps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA%2B »

lte - speed 100mbps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution »


sprint 2009 net loss - $2.4 billion

2008 net loss - $2.8 billion

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/11/technology/compani ... »


Sprints Churn - High


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sprint-cuts-quarter ... »

let me know if you want me to provide references to other facts/figures that i included in my post
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fairseth1304

Apr 20, 2010, 6:02 PM
wikipedia? Can't anyone edit those responses?
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Amarantamin

Apr 20, 2010, 6:28 PM
Wikipedia is not accepted as a resource, any basic college could tell deepskyblue that. Such as, the one he got his degree in mass communications from.

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deepskyblue

Apr 20, 2010, 10:31 PM
well i wouldn't use wikipedia in a research paper, but it's a great source of information in general.

do you disagree with the speeds?

the old adage goes "if a crazy man observes that the sun is setting, it does not make it untrue, simply because he is crazy"

i can tell you those speeds are right. it would be easy (although more time consuming) to find other sources that would be acceptable for a research paper that say the exact same speeds.

Wouldn't it be better for you to say, yes, sprint is in trouble, yes wimax was a bad descision, but we don't care, we love what they're selling.

instead of you calling me a liar for telling the truth, which i think makes me honest and you a liar.

i think thier new plans are a great va...
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fairseth1304

Apr 21, 2010, 11:36 AM
By your logic,

sprint 2009 net loss - $2.4 billion

2008 net loss - $2.8 billion

They are improving...Correct?
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GTAexpert

Apr 23, 2010, 10:33 AM
You wanted facts....so I am about to give you some.

First and foremost, Sprint owns 51% of Clearwire. FACT. ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

HSPA, while tested in a lab, can give tremendous download speeds. HOWEVER, in the real world that we all operate and live in, the speeds are averaging 7 Mbps per second. FACT. ๐Ÿคจ

Wimax, while tested in the lab, was not as fast as HSPA, HOWEVER, in the real world we all operate and live in, speeds are averaging 10 Mbps on the SLOW side, 15 Mbps on the fast side. FACT. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

LTE, while tested in the lab, was the fastest of all, BUT IS NOT EVEN AVAILABLE YET FOR USE IN ANY MARKET IN THIS COUNTRY. So we have no idea how fast it will be. FACT. ๐Ÿ™„

Most of all (and this speaks to the last FACT I gave), the LTE spec...
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Amarantamin

Apr 23, 2010, 4:17 PM
Though overuse of the term annoys the heck out of me, I believe 'pwned' is an appropriate response.
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GTAexpert

Apr 23, 2010, 4:20 PM
Annoying to me as well, but I must also say thank you very much ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜
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diggitydogg76

Apr 22, 2010, 6:30 PM
Try searching wiki for 4G ... you'll find WAY different numbers!
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Amarantamin

Apr 20, 2010, 1:17 PM
I suggest you sue whatever institution provided you with that degree.

People have been proving you wrong left and right with every ill-thought story you post. I don't think more needs to be said, but I'll do so anyways.

Does anybody believe Deepskyblue? If so, I'd like to hear from you!

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rarodrig26

Apr 20, 2010, 3:08 PM
It's pretty clear from all the comments that everyone seems to agree he/she is a tool.

You owe me (or sprint rather) a new keyboard, cuz i spit coke all over mine when i read your comment, "sue whatever institution provided you with that degree." lmfao.
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sunilsonia

Apr 20, 2010, 9:10 AM
Keep trollin' here as you are and someone just may have to go all myspace/psychotic/whatever on you. You are anti-Sprint trash is not welcome here. Kindly just leave with a sense of peace and your respect intact.

Thanks!
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TmobileCustomer83

Apr 20, 2010, 7:52 PM
With out reading all the reply's I will say that this post has very little factual merit. First At&t is not rolling out HSPA+ they are skipping it for LTE which want be out for some time. Second WIMAX has a lot of potential it's only in it's first phase rumor has it that it is capable of supporting speeds of 300M down link, but I'm sure that is only theoretical. I think Sprint is making the right move since no one else has even released 4G. Just field trials. This seems to be the product of opinion then fact. I wont deny that Sprint has the highest churn rate and loosing a lot of money. But I do think they are making a turn around. Only time will tell if it turns out for the best.
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deepskyblue

Apr 20, 2010, 11:15 PM
your comment about att skipping hspa+ is from an interview with ralf de la vega that is over a year old.

here's something newer

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/atandts-de-la-veg ... »

and i can tell you that there is already deployment in a few markets.
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TmobileCustomer83

Apr 21, 2010, 6:50 PM
Good point but still Wimax is only in its first phase with theoretical speeds of 300Mbs versus HSPA+ 21Mbs. Though HSPA+ is an upgrade it wont take long for it to be outdated since it's merely the last phase for HSPA+. I know Sprint has made some big mistakes for which was the reason why I left them six years ago but since coming back to them I see an improved company in terms of service all around. Roaming for both data and voice with out extra cost with a more reliable network. Though my foresight is limited to mainly Oklahoma I have tested AT&T T-mobile and Sprint. I will tell you hands down that Sprint has the better 3g footprint and coverage rather it is roaming or not of those three. While I favor T-mobiles customer support over Sprint...
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diggitydogg76

Apr 22, 2010, 5:01 PM
Alot of claims, no sources ... please name your sources when you're trying to paint such a black/white picture!
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