WTF Sprint
What is with sprint requiring some phones to have the simply everything plans. I would think that they would sell more phones is they allowed the customers to chose the plans with the data included. Or maybe allow the current customers to upgrade without going to the simply everything plan or everything data plans as long as they currently have a data plan as an add on. It would make sense but then why would any phone company want to make sense to their customers. 👿
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Let me start with the fact that I'm anti-contract and anti-forcing plans on people.
With that said, why would you want to buy such an advanced phone without getting everything that phone can do? Frankly the $129 everything family plan the wife and I are on is at least $40 less per month than any comparable plan on these smart phones.
With that said, why would you want to buy such an advanced phone without getting everything that phone can do? Frankly the $129 everything family plan the wife and I are on is at least $40 less per month than any comparable plan on these smart phones.
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they say they require simply everything but they can be put on an everything data 450 plan which is the same as SE only limited to 450 anytime mins N&W@7 and unl M2M and unl text vid/picmail for $69.99 so its the cheapest plan for a smartphone out there.
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that goes for any everything data plan:
450-$69.99
900-89.99
1500 shared for lines 1-2 $129.99+19.99 lines 3-5 and
evdata 3000 shared $169.00 lines 5-5 $19.99
450-$69.99
900-89.99
1500 shared for lines 1-2 $129.99+19.99 lines 3-5 and
evdata 3000 shared $169.00 lines 5-5 $19.99
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They won't make enough in increased sales to cover the loss they take on the phone, those older plans make carriers very little money, if any at all, yet you get the same (or similar) benefits as current customer plans.
They are not forcing you to a new plan, but they are offering these new phones on new plans only so they can actually make a profit on them.
Sprint is losing millions of post pay customers a year, they're not going to take a loss on the customers they do have unless it will be profitable.
They are not forcing you to a new plan, but they are offering these new phones on new plans only so they can actually make a profit on them.
Sprint is losing millions of post pay customers a year, they're not going to take a loss on the customers they do have unless it will be profitable.
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I understand the reasoning behind why they would want us to change thge plan i just wanted get some frustrations out with them bringing out phones and taking advantage of the customers that want those phones to get them to change the plans.
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Menno,
You are partly correct and partly incorrect with your information. Yes, the Simply Everything plans are profitable for Sprint. However, it is much more costly to attract a new customer and put this person into a SP plan than it is to keep legacy plan customers like myself. They are making money over the past 13 years off of my plan which more than covers the cost of any "subsidized" handset I chose. Sprint would be doing backflips with they were able to have kept all of the customers that left with their respective legacy plan over the present or new customers being forced to switch to these SP plans.
You are partly correct and partly incorrect with your information. Yes, the Simply Everything plans are profitable for Sprint. However, it is much more costly to attract a new customer and put this person into a SP plan than it is to keep legacy plan customers like myself. They are making money over the past 13 years off of my plan which more than covers the cost of any "subsidized" handset I chose. Sprint would be doing backflips with they were able to have kept all of the customers that left with their respective legacy plan over the present or new customers being forced to switch to these SP plans.
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It depends on your plan type though. With legacy plans (especially ones with high numbers of minutes for cheaper prices) companies are typically losing money because most carriers really don't make much of anything on minutes anymore (unlimited in, nights/weekends, etc. making up a bulk of the minutes use)
So while you might've been very profitable for them in the past, with the new pricing on phones (that are subsidized a lot more than older devices ever were) they need to make that money back through your rate plan.
I agree that keeping long time customers is very important for companies (which is why companies don't simply lock-out older plans), but the older a plan is, the less a company makes on it, so there needs to be a trade o...
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So while you might've been very profitable for them in the past, with the new pricing on phones (that are subsidized a lot more than older devices ever were) they need to make that money back through your rate plan.
I agree that keeping long time customers is very important for companies (which is why companies don't simply lock-out older plans), but the older a plan is, the less a company makes on it, so there needs to be a trade o...
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Menno said:
they need to make that money back through your rate plan.t, so there needs to be a trade off somewhere.
Yet you can get unlimited everything options for 50$ using iDEN? You're out of your mind treating sprint like a cuddled baby they make billions yearly and have profit/loss margins at ridiculous levels like every other carrier. 🙄
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iDEN network isn't what it used to be. The biggest factor as to why its $50 on iDEN is you get what you pay for. You can roam if you go off the network your S.O.L. sure its fine for the few cellular customers who dont go ANYWHERE out of their town but for the vast majority its not the best option.
Menno is correct in saying they dont make money on old plans like they used to. Customers come in ask for the free phone then look at it like wow this is a crappy phone it doesn't do anything but forget that 6-7 years ago those free phones well didn't DO ANYTHING.
Working in the business for some years now if you look around phone pricing is way down from what it used to be. For example I remember when the Motorola Razr came out peopl...
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Menno is correct in saying they dont make money on old plans like they used to. Customers come in ask for the free phone then look at it like wow this is a crappy phone it doesn't do anything but forget that 6-7 years ago those free phones well didn't DO ANYTHING.
Working in the business for some years now if you look around phone pricing is way down from what it used to be. For example I remember when the Motorola Razr came out peopl...
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First they do not require a Simply Everything plan, they require a plan that has Everything Data or Simply Everything.
Second, for the time being they only require this on the Palm Pre, Samsung M800 Instinct, Samsung M810 Instinct S30, and Samsung M850 Instinct HD.
Why do they do this?
Because they knew these phones would be popular. Especially on the Instinct series which do not have WiFi, if you click on anything other than the phone Icon (and some other random basics like settings, calendar or notes) you are clicking on a web enabled icon. Without the data you are getting charged 3 cents per kilobyte.
They do not want people coming to Sprint and getting a Palm Pre or an Instinct and either 1) not using all the features of th...
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Second, for the time being they only require this on the Palm Pre, Samsung M800 Instinct, Samsung M810 Instinct S30, and Samsung M850 Instinct HD.
Why do they do this?
Because they knew these phones would be popular. Especially on the Instinct series which do not have WiFi, if you click on anything other than the phone Icon (and some other random basics like settings, calendar or notes) you are clicking on a web enabled icon. Without the data you are getting charged 3 cents per kilobyte.
They do not want people coming to Sprint and getting a Palm Pre or an Instinct and either 1) not using all the features of th...
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If you really like throwing money away on phones that you cannot do anything with, may I reccomend a Boost Unlimited phone.
For as little as $40 you can get a phone that has no idea what the real internet or real time texting is, and applications like an alarm clock cost $3 or more extra.
Or perhaps you would like to drop $349.99 on a Sprint Touch Pro 2 and just use it to make phone calls and maybe if you meditate hard enough you can pretend it does not have any other features.
Why do people keep posting this crap, and more importantly why does no one that defends Sprint on this forum have anything intelligent to say about it.
The Simply Everything plan is not making money for Sprint. It is bringing subscribers to Sprint. I w...
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For as little as $40 you can get a phone that has no idea what the real internet or real time texting is, and applications like an alarm clock cost $3 or more extra.
Or perhaps you would like to drop $349.99 on a Sprint Touch Pro 2 and just use it to make phone calls and maybe if you meditate hard enough you can pretend it does not have any other features.
Why do people keep posting this crap, and more importantly why does no one that defends Sprint on this forum have anything intelligent to say about it.
The Simply Everything plan is not making money for Sprint. It is bringing subscribers to Sprint. I w...
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Wireless.O.G. said:
If you really like throwing money away on phones that you cannot do anything with, may I reccomend a Boost Unlimited phone.
For as little as $40 you can get a phone that has no idea what the real internet or real time texting is, and applications like an alarm clock cost $3 or more extra.
Or perhaps you would like to drop $349.99 on a Sprint Touch Pro 2 and just use it to make phone calls and maybe if you meditate hard enough you can pretend it does not have any other features.
Why do people keep posting this crap, and more importantly why does no one that defends Sprint on this forum have anything intelligent to say about it.
Amen to you. I worked for Sprint and now a d...
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