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AT&T May Charge App Makers for Consumer Data Use

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This is just a terrible idea

mycool

Feb 27, 2012, 11:25 AM
Basically AT&T wants developers to pay for data usages so that customers will buy their apps.

And, to push this AT&T is pointing to the fact that data usage is too much for them to handle, which is why they don't offer unlimited usage plans. Yet, they sit on soooo much spectrum.

How about using your spectrum to expand and support your network and stop overselling it. They are attempting to use the same model gyms do when they oversell membership when clearly it isn't working. Don't shift the burden onto developers, invest in your own networks and provide the service you promised your customers.
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Jayshmay

Feb 27, 2012, 11:39 AM
The FCC really needs to step in!
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T Bone

Feb 27, 2012, 11:48 AM
The Government is my Shepherd, I need not work. It alloweth me to lie down on a good job; It leadeth me beside still factories; It destroyeth my initiative. It leadeth me in the path of a parasite for politic’s sake;
Yea, though I walk through the valley of laziness and deficit-spending, I will fear no evil, for the government is with me. It prepareth an economic Utopia for me, by appropriating the earnings of my own grandchildren. It filleth my head with false security; My inefficiency runneth over. Surely the government should care for me all the days of my life, And I shall dwell in a fool’s house forever.
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WiWavelength

Feb 27, 2012, 12:24 PM
T Bone said:
The Government is my Shepherd, I need not work. It alloweth me to lie down on a good job; It leadeth me beside still factories; It destroyeth my initiative. It leadeth me in the path of a parasite for politic’s sake;
Yea, though I walk through the valley of laziness and deficit-spending, I will fear no evil, for the government is with me. It prepareth an economic Utopia for me, by appropriating the earnings of my own grandchildren. It filleth my head with false security; My inefficiency runneth over. Surely the government should care for me all the days of my life, And I shall dwell in a fool’s house forever.


What a bunch of bunk! Typical anti government straw man illogic wrapped in a...
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dlmjr

Feb 27, 2012, 2:56 PM
We the people are not the government.
This country does not work on direct 'public opinion' or direct vote. This country was organized as a Republic.
We don't even directly elect our President.
We elect representatives who govern for us.
So, no, WE are not the government.
If you want to test that, pass a bill and enforce it on your own. See how far it gets you.

The FCC is a group of 'chairmen' who are selected by the sitting President, confirmed by congress and are supposed to uphold the pricipals and carry out the duties outlined in the act of congress that created the FCC.

Do they have any reason to interfere with how ATT charges it's customers for data?
No, as ATT does not hold any monopoly.

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GravityFails

Feb 27, 2012, 4:09 PM
Oh? "We the people," huh? And that, I presume, is the extent of your knowledge regarding any of the documents involved in the formation of this country. I notice that you didn't sneak any pseudo-Constitutional passages in there. Probably just as well.

Tell me, exactly which of the FCC commissioners did you vote for? Tell me again, when we the people decide to employ an unelected, non-accountable component of the Federal government to curtail YOUR business practices simply because we don't like what you're doing, to whom will you complain?

Your writing smacks of Midwestern pragmatism. Enjoy four more years of the current regime; you deserve it.
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T Bone

Feb 27, 2012, 7:02 PM
I posted it to make of Jay's reflexive 'let's get the FCC involved' response....

Yeah....every time a company does anything you don't like, run to the nanny state to fix it...

Running to Mommy government every time you encounter something you don't like is the adult's version of a kid yelling 'I'm going to tell mom!'
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T Bone

Feb 27, 2012, 7:18 PM
By the way, the 23 Psalm is part of the Tankah so its origins are Jewish, not Christian....

You can call it a 'straw man' if you like, but most people use the term 'satire'....whatever floats your boat my friend! What squares your root, whatever integrates your differential!
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tether

Feb 27, 2012, 10:58 PM
The government did a heckuva job organizing our country to win World War I and II. Did a heckuva job landing a man on the moon. Would it be better if there was no government. I really despise partisan, seemingly blinded Republicans or Democrats. Your right Democrats always seem to want to give away stuff to people who don't want to work or expect everything (entitlement syndrome) & have the government oppressively controlling everything (did they every meet a czar they didn't like?). Republicans always seem to despise ANY government oversight of anything except they love military international expeditionism, wars with various third world countries & nation-building (isn't the military BIG GOVERNMENT?). Would we be better off with the G...
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T Bone

Feb 27, 2012, 11:53 AM
"Donovan said that the idea has garnered interest from its developer customers."

This is something that developers WANT and are interested in....
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mycool

Feb 27, 2012, 12:02 PM
T Bone said:
"Donovan said that the idea has garnered interest from its developer customers."

This is something that developers WANT and are interested in....


I'm a developer and I definitely don't want this. This is just a bad idea.
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Jayshmay

Feb 27, 2012, 12:53 PM
Oh, your a deveolper! We have our very own developer right here on Phone Scoop! Very cool! Android? Or iOS?
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mycool

Feb 27, 2012, 1:28 PM
Microsoft.NET and Java. I am looking to expand on Objective-C to get into iOS dev.
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Jayshmay

Feb 27, 2012, 1:29 PM
iOS? What about Android?!!?
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mycool

Feb 27, 2012, 1:57 PM
Eventually... keep in mind that I work full time as a .NET developer, so the applications I'm exploring right now are all in my spare time, which is already stretched out thin.

The time constraint is actually the reason I'm working on a WP7 app first, even though I don't own a WP7 device for personal use.

Once I get free time I do want to explore Objective-C (iOS), and yes Android as well (Java). The thing is, I already mentioned I know Java... just not the Android SDK specifically. Which is the same reason I didn't mention Blackberry, because it is also Java. Though, I'll probably wait until Blackberry 10 is nearing before jumping into that ship, even though I own a Blackberry device.

I'd say I'm about 15% done with my application ...
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Jayshmay

Feb 28, 2012, 8:26 AM
Interesting.
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mopeyjoe

Feb 27, 2012, 1:11 PM
I could see this being very good for streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, Spotify. allowing those with small data plans ( 250MB ) to still buy their service. while allowing free apps to exist use up the "anything" bucket.

However, I am sure ATT will price this out of being reasonable. That's just what they do.
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dlmjr

Feb 27, 2012, 11:55 AM
"Basically AT&T wants developers to pay for data usages so that customers will buy their apps."

Of course ATT wants customers to pay for data use.
Don't all the carriers?

What they are saying, which I think you missed, is, apps will come without data access associated with your data plan and if you accept and use the app you will be buying data from the app seller/supplier.

That's my take on it.

Nobody will use apps that have 'extra' data charges.
It's fools gold.
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Fredd

Feb 27, 2012, 3:21 PM
It also would be an option for the developers to attract customers.

However, I know facts do not deter those that are anti-AT&T. They will post slams without any compunction.
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dlmjr

Feb 27, 2012, 5:32 PM
I'm betting any developer will offer a subscription plan, at extra cost, that will include the data costs.

What I cannot understand is people expecting to watch movies 24 hrs per day 365 days a year (on a cell phone Rolling Eyes ) and not be charged for it.

ITS DATA... IT SHOULD BE FREE...

Idiotic.
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Massively

Feb 27, 2012, 7:08 PM
"i want FREE DATA"
-these are the type of people who i would almost always want to avoid since no amount of explanation and reasoning would work with them.
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Fredd

Feb 28, 2012, 1:45 PM
And then we will get calls complaining about a subsription they did not order! Evil or Very Mad
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