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AT&T and Sprint Tussle About Roaming Rules

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wahhhhhh

flash400runner

Jan 25, 2012, 10:48 AM
now att is going after revenge for everyone who stopped them from buying t-maybe. att is worse for the consumers out there then all the republican canidates running for office...and that says something
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dlmjr

Jan 25, 2012, 11:42 AM
Claptrap.
Sprint didn't stop ATT from acquiring Tmob, the FCC did.

"going after revenge".... Rolling Eyes

Sprint has made some very bad decisions lately and it's biting them.

The LS deal. Laughing

Taking on the iPhone which the will lose money on until 2015, according to their own estimates.

Now they are throttleing Virgin Mobile because the iPhone is a 3g device and it's eating up their network and they can't push the traffic onto LTE, so they have to please those customers to the detriment of the Virgin Mobile non-contract customers.

Their business plan must look like some sort of kindergarten kid with paste and crayolas made it.
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T Bone

Jan 25, 2012, 1:51 PM
"Sprint didn't stop ATT from acquiring Tmob, the FCC did."

With MASSIVE prompting from Sprint, indeed it could be said without exaggeration that if not for Sprint's lawsuits and constant prodding, the FCC probably would have approved the deal.

But let's be serious: Sprint was being petty, they were just angry because they couldn't raise the capital to buy T-Mobile themselves.
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CellStudent

Jan 25, 2012, 2:31 PM
T Bone said:
But let's be serious: Sprint was being petty, they were just angry because they couldn't raise the capital to buy T-Mobile themselves.


Or, maybe, because adding GSM and UMTS to their already ridiculously complicated hodge-podge of iDen, CDMA, EV-DO, WiMAX and LTE might be a bad idea?

The price would have to be really, really cheap for Sprint to buy out T-mobile. I'd wager they would be willing to pay less than 1/2 what AT&T offered for them.

Sprint couldn't possibly want T-mobile enough to pay fair market value for them.
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T Bone

Jan 25, 2012, 6:01 PM
Yes, Sprint wanted to purchase T-Mobile in 2009-2010, but after months of negotiations they were not able to come to a deal. When the talks with Sprint broke down, Deutsche Telecom went to at&t. This is public knowledge.
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T Bone

Jan 25, 2012, 6:06 PM
Might not be the best word, the word 'merger' might be better...or maybe more like 'business affiliates'.....there was an effort to combine Sprint and T-Mobile in some way..if not an outright acquisition than some kind of partnership, but they couldn't come to a deal.
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muchdrama

Jan 25, 2012, 2:59 PM
T Bone said:
"Sprint didn't stop ATT from acquiring Tmob, the FCC did."

With MASSIVE prompting from Sprint, indeed it could be said without exaggeration that if not for Sprint's lawsuits and constant prodding, the FCC probably would have approved the deal.

But let's be serious: Sprint was being petty, they were just angry because they couldn't raise the capital to buy T-Mobile themselves.


It wasn't just prompting from Sprint--it was the media, consumers, other companies, too...
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dlmjr

Jan 25, 2012, 4:13 PM
Too many people patting themselve on the back here.

Essentially everyone is saying that the FCC is subject to pressure from other companies and public opinion.

They should not be.
Plain and simple.

If the facts and circumstances are sufficient to accept or deny any deal, outside influence should not matter and it should be judged on those facts alone.

Any other scenario subverts the supposed impartiality of the FCC.
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muchdrama

Jan 25, 2012, 4:21 PM
dlmjr said:
Too many people patting themselve on the back here.

Essentially everyone is saying that the FCC is subject to pressure from other companies and public opinion.

They should not be.
Plain and simple.

If the facts and circumstances are sufficient to accept or deny any deal, outside influence should not matter and it should be judged on those facts alone.

Any other scenario subverts the supposed impartiality of the FCC.


Yeah, well--public opinion counts for something here in the US. Be glad it does.
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dlmjr

Jan 25, 2012, 7:52 PM
Public opinion shouldn't have squat to do with any FCC decision.

Period.

Public opinion can be manipulated easily and the FCC commissioners are appointed to make rules that take the chaos factor out of our national communications systems.

Nothing more, nothing less.

If public opinion was overwhealming in favor of the ATT- Tmob transaction would you want the FCC to acceed to it?

99.99999% of the cellular users haven't a clue how the industry works so their 'opinion' is meaningless at best.

The sheep will repeat whatever they hear that is spoon fed to them by who ever wants the 'public opinion' tide.
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muchdrama

Jan 25, 2012, 7:55 PM
dlmjr said:

Public opinion shouldn't have squat to do with any FCC decision.



A lot of things shouldn't be the way they are.
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dlmjr

Jan 25, 2012, 4:16 PM
Then what you are saying is the FCC isn't prepared to make the judgement based on the facts of the case and is a tool of who ever has the most influence.

Flys in the face of all the people who constantly whine about ATT having so much influence and power.

BTW, lawsuits are a dime a dozen.
The are meaningless unless they are actually heard.
White noise until then.
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eskeebel

Jan 26, 2012, 10:13 AM
You're stupid. "Yes, the Republicans are the problem. And so it AT&T. If we flogged all of the Republicans and the CEO's of AT&T, the world would be a better place."

I'm glad you found a scape goat.

As an AT&T customer, I can tell you that I am a VERY happy consumer. They have been a better cell phone company to me than any of the 4 carriers i've used in my life. THey made a valid point. AT&T continues to spend the highest dollar amount than any other carrier to build out their network and expand their innovations, and here comes Sprint and says they are basically going to mooch off of everyone else. As one of the top 4, it's their job to help lead network upgrades but if Dan can get his head out of butt and make the good decisions, Sp...
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