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RIM Co-CEOs Balisillie and Lazaridis to Step Down

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Much Needed and Long Overdue

T Bone

Jan 22, 2012, 10:01 PM
But I think promoting from within is a bad idea, they need to bring in someone from outside the company.
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Versed

Jan 22, 2012, 10:06 PM
I agree, some new blood with new ideas. Not sure if tuning the company up for sale is a good idea either but it is an option.
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T Bone

Jan 22, 2012, 10:11 PM
Truthfully, there is nothing really 'wrong' at RIM, it's just an image problem, in 2011 they sold 50 million Blackberry handsets, whatever that might be, that's NOT failure or a sign that the company is about to go under. The only problem is the Wall Street analysts who keep telling people to sell RIM stock....the very same analysts, I might add, who told people to keep buying Enron stock right up until the moment the company went under. The analysts don't know jack.

A change in leadership is exactly the kind of thing to fix that image problem and help the stock price start increasing again.
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Vmac39

Jan 23, 2012, 1:04 PM
There's definitely an image issue but, I believe a lot of it had to do with poor hardware performance. Overall, I think RIM's phones have been on the right track bit, poor OS optimization and the lack of memory, one of or both of these issues causing phones to freeze up. It was that reason I got rid on my original Bold. Using the same memory for phone operations and storing apps, wasn't a very good idea. Especially, when you limit the device to 128-512mb. Lets not talk about the extremely long boot time, when you had to pull the battery to free up memory. Nearly two whole minutes! Now, enough bashing of RIM. I've seen some of the new devices slated to come out sometime this year and they seem really seems to be some promise there, that just ...
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 23, 2012, 1:56 PM
Vmac39 said:
I understand RIM has always been more of a business phone but, they have kind of fallen behind in terms of what a lot of people wanted, I think. With business professionals being younger and more of the older ones retiring, the expectations of what a phone should do and what people want them to do has changed.


All that happened with RIM is that they were a company with business oriented smartphones that just HAPPENED to be there a few years back when everyone on earth decided that they had to have these devices.
So overnight, thanks to Apple and later Google a new "consumer" market was created for these devices which RIM was slow to respond to.

Blackberries still have a lot of strengths, b...
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T Bone

Jan 23, 2012, 4:41 PM
That's true of many successful companies, a successful product is the byproduct of genunine quality plus excellent timing.

I mean, how did Apple originally become successful? They become successful because they just happened to product an affordable personal computer right at the time when computers were starting to be no longer the exclusive domain of electronics hobbyists and were starting to become mainstream.

And after the introduction of the Apple II, Apple struggled for a lot of years to find an adequate follow up, and then came a string of failed products, the Apple III, the Lisa, and the first generation Macintosh.

Indeed, RIM's story is very similar to Apple's....and RIM right now is about where Apple was when Steve Jo...
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HawkeyeOC

Jan 23, 2012, 10:06 PM
Very good points.
I owned a couple of Newtons which are about the size of todays Android phones with about the same battery life Laughing
Apple knew how to screw up too sometimes.
I know I'll get flamed for that comment Laughing All kidding aside...
Palm, RIM and Windows mobile used to dominate, now Apple and Google. You never know what tomorrow may bring...
QNX should hopefully be a good alternative to those that are annoyed with their perceived shortcomings on other smartphone platforms. RIM has a shot
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T Bone

Jan 23, 2012, 10:52 PM
The only serious problems with the current generation Blackberries is an OS that freezes too often, is too slow and out of date hardware....Blackberries do not have any of the problems that are bogging down a lot of the Android 'superphones' such as poor battery life or frequently failing hardware.....

Bring the specs of the high end Blackberries up to the level of the high end Android phones and switch to a more stable OS based on the one currently in use on the Playbook and I think they'll be fine....they just need to get Blackberry 10 into production ASAP.
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T Bone

Jan 23, 2012, 2:17 PM
In particular there is a stability problem with Blackberries, I find myself having to do a battery pull because it is frozen at least once a week...but that seems to be more a software issue than a hardware issue.....as far as hardware goes, RIM actually has the lowest hardware failure rate among leading smartphones.....so I think the hardware is solid, if a little out of date.

The Blackberry Playbook, on the other hand, is very stable. I ordered on Thanksgiving when they were $199.99 and it has performed exceptionally, not one crash yet. On the other hand, my Motorola Xoom seems to have spps crash after every couple hours of usage.

If the performance of the Playbook is any indication I think the stability issues should be fixed wit...
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Vmac39

Jan 24, 2012, 2:15 AM
I hope you're right. I do like BlackBerry and would like to see them thrive. But, as for Android, you will have those issues when you're OS is so open. I know it appeals to many people but, I will take a stable and reliable platform over Android's any day, right now. I don't care that they have over 100,000 apps because, how many of them im I actually going to use? The deep customizations a great but, at what cost? Had a Blackberry but, I'm waiting on them to put out something on level when it comes to hardware and a better OS. For now at least, I will stick with WP7. Don't get me wrong, Android is great for what it is, a super customizable phone.
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muchdrama

Jan 23, 2012, 2:03 PM
T Bone said:
Truthfully, there is nothing really 'wrong' at RIM, it's just an image problem, in 2011 they sold 50 million Blackberry handsets, whatever that might be, that's NOT failure or a sign that the company is about to go under. The only problem is the Wall Street analysts who keep telling people to sell RIM stock....the very same analysts, I might add, who told people to keep buying Enron stock right up until the moment the company went under. The analysts don't know jack.

A change in leadership is exactly the kind of thing to fix that image problem and help the stock price start increasing again.


Nice post. And very, very true.
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BigRed75

Jan 22, 2012, 10:41 PM
He's just abandoning a sinking ship. Taking pointers from the captain of the Costa Concordia.
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T Bone

Jan 22, 2012, 11:24 PM
He didn't quit voluntarily, RIM stockholders are on the brink of revolt, it was 'quit or be fired'....Dan Hesse is next...
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BigRed75

Jan 23, 2012, 11:55 AM
T Bone said:
He didn't quit voluntarily, RIM stockholders are on the brink of revolt, it was 'quit or be fired'....Dan Hesse is next...


You got that right. Sprint is a mess and has been for years but maybe a good CEO could turn that around.
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