California First to Levy Cell Phone Charger Regulations
13%?
dlmjr said:
Really? Do they just make this crap up offa the tops of their heads?
Your right, the percentage figure is being disputed by the Consumer Electronics Association (CEA). They say the savings for consumers has been overestimated.
I am sure they arrived at this accurate number by visiting each and every California household taking careful note of what consumers will save 🤣
HawkeyeOC said:
Your right, the percentage figure is being disputed by the Consumer Electronics Association (CEA). They say the savings for consumers has been overestimated.
I am sure they arrived at this accurate number by visiting each and every California household taking careful note of what consumers will save 🤣
From what I can figure, the 13% would represent somewhere north of 3 trillion kw hrs per year...
I'm not buying it
So a family of 4 might have at least 18 of these plugged in right?
I am not buying it either 🙄
There is no basis in reality here.
It takes a 100 watt bulb 10 hrs to consume 1 kilowat hour. A 100 watt bulb burning contuniously consumes 876 kw hrs in a year. So, 3 trillion kw hrs is how many 100 w bulbs burning 24 hrs 365?
Do the math.
That puts the idiot stat in perspective.
Number is way, way overblown.
The sad part is people will swallow these made up stats and regurgitate them without question.
dlmjr said:
The sad part is people will swallow these made up stats and regurgitate them without question.
I hope not, but maybe thats wishful thinking on my part. I live in California. Talk radio regularly pokes fun of exaggerated stats like this to justify new laws and regulations. You have a very good point
If you are going to 'legislate' then for God's sake at least use real numbers to justify it, not made up bs.
Still, this mandate will save a measurable amount of power. Even 1% savings on this massive scale is a lot of energy.
Nearly all your chargers are designed based on cost, not on energy efficiency, since the consumer probably doesn't no any better on what things consume inside their household anyway. No company would design a more expensive charger without marketing it as some sort of value add (aka, charging them 300% more for calling it a "Green Charger").
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These appliances are, almost all of them, actually DOING something while they are plugged in, they aren't just wasting electricity for absolutely no purpose, and unplugging them every time you are done using them is counterproductive because it makes the product harder to use the next time you want to use them.
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Yes, but that doesn't count for 13% of all power used, and the post I was responding to was saying it appliances left plugged in when not in use.
maokh said:
It is true...about 10-13% of all electricity is standby/vampire/phantom power. But this includes everything from microwaves to dvd players to wall warts. ... Even 1% savings on this massive scale is a lot of energy....
But 1% is still 1%, and if your electric bill is $2000 for the year, and you dutifully unplug every unused charger daily, you will save $20 in a year. Good. That will help pay for the cost of the electrician when he comes out to replace your worn out receptacles.
What's next? Mandated remote controllable thermostats so that CA can control your energy usage during a heat wave or cold snap? Remote controllable refrigerator thermostats to raise the temperature in the fridge dur...
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Lena said:
What's next? Mandated remote controllable thermostats so that CA can control your energy usage during a heat wave or cold snap?
Funny you should mention that. My power meter is now being read remotely. I had no choice in it being installed. My gas meter is upgradable to wireless tech when they want to. You are right, it's coming.
Lena said:
Or maybe we should focus on providing more power rather than legislating pocket lint savings.
This is almost impossible in California's regulatory climate anymore. My company has been involved in the process of upgrading an older power facility for the last 5 years and its been planned for more than a decade. Forget b...
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