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HAHA TAKE THAT VERIZON!!

MrFisch13

Sep 9, 2004, 2:22 PM
I hate them they think they own wireless and get in everyones buisness
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muchdrama

Sep 9, 2004, 4:00 PM
MrFisch13 said:
I hate them they think they own wireless and get in everyones buisness
Not exactly an astute argument, but one I'll nevertheless agree with. Verizon needs to stop attempting to squash the competition and help the government deal with the dire issue of public safety.
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uNt0uChAbLe

Sep 9, 2004, 4:51 PM
If you guys were part of the corporate ladder with VZW you guys would be trying to squash the competition too. The more they own the more money they make. 👿
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BBKahuna

Sep 9, 2004, 4:59 PM
That's as silly as saying that a gas company shouldn't sue if the government issued a competitor a huge tax break.

Let's review how spectrum has been always been assigned: BY AUCTIONING IT.

Why in the world should Nextel be handed a dinner plate of tasty spectrum for a bargain price when Verizon is willing to OPEN BIDDING at more than twice what the FCC has proposed they should pay for it.

Also, what I *really* don't get is why everyone is getting so frustrated with Verizon when it's Nextel causing the interference problem in the first place.

"Hi government, we're causing public safety interference. You should obviously give us a tremendous benefit just for complying with the most basic safety concerns".

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Rich Brome

Sep 9, 2004, 5:52 PM
What you're saying is almost exactly what Verizon has said on the subject, but there are other points of view.

First, what Nextel is being asked to pay (including cash to the FCC, relinquished spectrum, and relocation costs) is a minimum $4.8 billion. Verizon said it would pay $5 billion for that spectrum. So it's not quite the overwhelming windfall for Nextel that Verizon would like to make you think.

Second, it's a bit misleading to say that "it's Nextel causing the interference". It's not that simple.

Nextel is using spectrum legally obtained, in exactly the way the FCC said they could.

Nextel is doing nothing wrong. It's the FCC's responsibility to set rules that prevent interference. They failed in this case. Nextel played b...
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SBacklin

Sep 9, 2004, 7:31 PM
A problem to be addressed is the fact is people are assuming that this deal by the FCC is the only way to fix the problem. Yes, the FCC screwed up by allowing Nextel to use that spectrum in the first place, but that does not mean Nextel should get a such a sweet deal. It should be that Nextel fight for that spectrum in the auction, if they loose, oh well, they have other spectrum, such as the 2.1Ghz band that Nextel can use. If they don't like it, then boohoo on them. Life isn't fair and business is not fair. That's a fact. It should be ok though for Nextel to use the 2.1Ghz band. Also, Nextel's service isn't all that great anyways. Forcing Nextel and the FCC to play by the FCC's own rules is able to fix the interference problem and let ...
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muchdrama

Sep 11, 2004, 3:48 PM
SBacklin said:
Yes, the FCC screwed up by allowing Nextel to use that spectrum in the first place, but that does not mean Nextel should get a such a sweet deal.
As Rich so astutely pointed out in his previous post, Nextel's not getting the "sweet" deal you thing they're getting. This interference problem needs to be taken care of immediately...before this country suffers another disaster akin to 9/11. We (as a country) don't have the luxury of waiting this out. End of story.
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jhmlbrgr

Sep 10, 2004, 12:00 AM
Hey Rich lets keep a couple of things in mind. First off (and I think I am correct) didn't VZW say they would be willing to START bidding at 5 billion, so it potentially could sell for much, much more. Secondly what about the other potential bands of spectrum, there are other options that have been explored and discussed, but since they are not as financially beneficial Nextel is trying to say that they are not a viable option when indeed they are viable options. Also in my opinion the only thing that matters as far as money goes is what Nextel pays to the FCC, relocation costs and relinquishment of spectrum are a mute point, I think we need to focus more on the profit to the FCC (govt.)
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Brooklyn Blues

Sep 10, 2004, 12:45 AM
I hope Verizon finds a loophole and fights this to the fullest. It's outrageous that Uncle Tom Michael Powell is giving Nextel a handout. Screw them. I hope Verizon destroys them.
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Rich Brome

Sep 10, 2004, 11:32 AM
jhmlbrgr said:
First off (and I think I am correct) didn't VZW say they would be willing to START bidding at 5 billion, so it potentially could sell for much, much more.

Yes, but I take that with a huge grain of salt. The whole point of Verizon saying that was to try an influence the process. They're hardly an unbiased bystander making that statement.

It's possible it would go for much more at auction, and I think it's just as likely that would go for less. The truth is we just don't know how much it would actually go for in a real auction. There's never been an auction like that, of national spectrum, at a time when there are so many national carriers.

Secondly what about the other
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X9

Sep 10, 2004, 3:00 PM
Can someone please remind me what Verizon has to do with all of this besides get in the way... Also you don't see AWS/Cingular, T-Mobile etc... Trying to stick their nose into this. Also I think that 4.8 billion!!! is more than fair for Nextel to have to pay for something that isn't their error. [I'd hate to see how Verizon would act if they had to give up part of their spectrum due to an FCC Error! - They probably wouldn't want to pay anything...]
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jhmlbrgr

Sep 11, 2004, 6:13 AM
None of the carriers want Nextel to get that spectrum it is just that VZW's concerns have been out in the press. The other carriers are all trying to figure out how they can compete with VZW, and letting VZW fight the battle with the FCC.
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muchdrama

Sep 11, 2004, 3:42 PM
Rich Brome said:
Public safety has to be the priority here.
And that single thought trumps EVERYthing.
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