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Destroyed.

KOL4420

Nov 24, 2011, 10:19 AM
Without the FCC to back them up I dont know how ATT will pull this off. Not in the public interest that is some strong wording when you are trying to merge two mobile carriers.
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Arjuun

Nov 24, 2011, 12:06 PM
that is true and its funny that now they have no allies in the Battle
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Mark_S

Nov 24, 2011, 12:21 PM
I do not blame AT&T for all this.
Deutsche Telekom should have used their brains a little more before deciding to put up a foreign asset for sale on the market.
They decided to buy them, now they think it is just so easy to dump them when the going gets tough.
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Arjuun

Nov 25, 2011, 10:31 AM
its not putting it up for sale hell if cricket or metro pcs or someone could muster up the money it would go thought perfectly but when the only other gsm nationwide carrier is trying to buy it out rite not part it out or anything is where the problem is coming up
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eskeebel

Nov 25, 2011, 10:04 AM
I am a little saddened by this to be honest. I think that AT&T would have been a good thing for T-Mobile. I'm still hopeful that the battle is not been lost yet, I hope it still goes through. I have AT&T service, and I love it! I have some friends on T-Mobile that would switch to AT&T, but don't want to spend the extra money. T-Mobile customers would have all been able to keep their exsisting plan, plus get the bonus and benefits of AT&T's network, plus AT&T would have built out T-Mobiles network more aggressivly than T-Mobile does now. I love that AT&T is so aggressive when it comes to network buildout.
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andy2373

Nov 25, 2011, 10:28 AM
I love that AT&T is so aggressive when it comes to network buildout.

REALLY!?! 😲
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Arjuun

Nov 25, 2011, 10:33 AM
t mobile will not be able to keep there plans
after they upgrade at@t will force them to change to a new plan not the t mobile plan they are on
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eskeebel

Nov 25, 2011, 11:03 AM
All of the Alltel customers that were switched to AT&T still have their plans, and the only time they are forced to switch is when they select a different type of phone that their rate plan does not support.
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yarmock

Nov 25, 2011, 12:29 PM
Yea, I have read our internal notes. T-mobile customer WILL NOT be required or forced to switch to an ATT plan. They will be grandfathered in. ATT confirmed this to us a long time ago.
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Vmac39

Nov 25, 2011, 11:38 PM
This is absolutely true. Despite people trying to make ATT altogether bad, they do not force you to change plans. When ATT bought Cingular, my plan didn't change until I decided to change it.
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LibtardExposer

Nov 26, 2011, 1:00 AM
Well just to point out a fact to you Cingular bought out ATT not the other way around of course they would let you keep their plan they were the buying company. Not saying they will force you to change either but just point the other out. Att,Verizon,Sprint and all the Carriers have good and bad things about them I guess you have to pick your poison carefuly.
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Vmac39

Nov 26, 2011, 1:15 AM
True, Cingular did buy out ATT, then ATT in turn reacquired the wireless portion from Cingular. But, I understand your point.😁
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LibtardExposer

Nov 27, 2011, 10:19 AM
In January 2007, Cingular confirmed it would re-brand itself under the AT&T name. Although the legal corporate name change occurred immediately, for both regulatory and brand-awareness reasons both brands were used in the company's signage and advertising during a transition period.[4] The transition concluded in late June, just prior to the rollout of the Apple iPhone.

They just changed their name it is Cinguar just took the name of the one they bought out.
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turnman34

Nov 27, 2011, 8:44 PM
actually neither bought eachother. they were owned both by sbc and bell south. when sbc aquired bell south they became sole owner of cingular and when sbc chose to purchase att, they kept the att name for branding purposes. so all in all cingular and att was and is still the same....
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JeffroPuff

Nov 25, 2011, 11:56 AM
Yeah? Where are you getting your info from???

I can say with certainty that I have hundreds of customers with legacy Dobson plans from 4 years ago, paying $55 for unlimited calling, $50 for 1600 nationwide minutes, etc. I have seen grandfathered Alltel, AT&T Wireless, and Centennial plans as well.

There had been no announcement about the fate of T-Mobile plans, but judging by the fact that the only time I've seen Cingular/AT&T require a plan change from an old one is with iPhones (naturally), I'd say safe bet that there would be no impact on legacy T-Mobile customers.

Cute concept, though. ;)
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eskeebel

Nov 25, 2011, 11:02 AM
They really are. They spend more money every year building their network than any other cellphone carrier. I know AT&T caught some flack for their network coverage at the release of the iPhone in 2007, but since then, it's been a very aggressive buildout. Here in my area, AT&T has the best coverage out of everyone.
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WiWavelength

Nov 25, 2011, 3:23 PM
eskeebel said:
They really are.


No, not really.

Let us make this simple. If AT&T really were "so aggressive when it comes to network buildout," then AT&T would have aggressively overlaid its entire native footprint with 3G W-CDMA by now.

Instead, AT&T has deployed pockets of 3G W-CDMA coverage centered on cities but has left huge swaths of 2G EDGE coverage along highways and in rural areas between cities.

Good grief, after six years of deployment, AT&T still is not even remotely close to finishing a complete 3G W-CDMA overlay. By comparison, VZW and Sprint have overlaid EV-DO across >95% of their entire footprints, respectively, and they accomplished that years ago.

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eskeebel

Nov 25, 2011, 5:13 PM
You're right about leaving a lot of areas of Edge. Have you ever thought about why they did that? Now neither of us are part of the decision making process of why they extend their services to certain markets, but I would imagine if I could make this decision, my thought would be the same. AT&T did not spend a lot of their resources taking their 3G footprint too rural areas, but in the areas that have 3G, it is top of the line in the USA. Maybe Verizon has a large 3G footprint, but when you pull speed tests, their speeds are 3-5 times SLOWER than AT&T. I am an AT&T customer - I've had Verizon, T-Mobile and even CRICKET and I've been happier with AT&T than any other carrier. I liked T-Mobile for the price, but AT&T has a strong network in my ...
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Slammer

Nov 25, 2011, 5:52 PM
---" As far as "aggressive" I would still call it aggressive...they spend more money on their network every year than any other provider, a lot of them by billions."---

Verizon and Sprint do not have to spend as much money annually on their networks because they are constantly upgrading. Their expenditures are now done in smaller increments.

AT&T has had to spend far more in the last four years just to play catch up. Perception may become reality, but it is also wise to not let this perception misrepresent the truth.

John B.
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CellStudent

Nov 25, 2011, 3:21 PM
No one disputed that this was a good move for T-Mobile and their shareholders (and possibly their customers).

No one disputed that this was a good move for AT&T and their shareholders (and possibly their customers).

The issue is that neither of those statements matters, at all!

This merger is a terrible, terrible thing for the United States wireless marketplace in general.

The FCC and the DoJ don't care if this is a good thing for the individual carriers involved, and they're not supposed to care about how this impacts the business model or profitability of the carriers involved.

The FCC and the DoJ have a guiding principle to protect the whole ecosystem, not to protect or destroy individual players in the...
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