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Adobe Confirms It Will Abandon Flash Player Mobile

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Top message:  Hey, everyone who said Apple was in the wrong for saying "GTFO" to Flash... by bluecoyote   Nov 9, 2011, 10:10 AM

Replying to:  Re: Hey, everyone who said Apple was in the wrong for saying "GTFO" to Flash... by bluecoyote   Nov 9, 2011, 2:44 PM

Re: Hey, everyone who said Apple was in the wrong for saying "GTFO" to Flash...

by WiWavelength    Nov 9, 2011, 4:19 PM

bluecoyote said:
Flash did fail on its own accord. If Flash was good, Apple would have included it.

No, I am sorry. You are just digging a deeper hole for yourself with your flawed reasoning.

The assertion "If Flash was [sic] good, Apple would have included it" contains at least one unsupported assumption.

Now, you certainly make your case that Flash is not good. Others disagree with you (and, as stated previously, I do not take a side), so that is a moot point.

But you assume that Apple would include something if it were good. You do not or cannot make that case. One, as noted above, some do think that Flash is good. Two, for a counterexample, take Blu-ray. Many think that BD is good, yet Apple has refused to support it internally.

Thus, the crux of the matter really comes down to what Apple thinks is good or wants to do. And, in terms of iOS, the rest of the mobile market more or less has to march lockstep with Apple's choices and accept the ramifications of those decisions.

Correct me if I am mistaken, but you are well known in these forums as an Apple fanboy and seem to pledge allegiance almost unequivocally to whatever Apple decides, along the lines of "If Apple does not include it, then it is no good." Well, that is effectively just the contrapositive of your assertion ("If Flash was [sic] good..."). So, you appear to presuppose what you set out to conclude. That is called circular reasoning -- another logical flaw.

(Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I am not against Apple. I own a PowerBook, a MacBook Pro, a Mac mini, an iPod touch, an AirPort Express, an AirPort Extreme, and I am typing this post on my 2011 MacBook Air. But I do have qualms about a company using its dominance in a given field to directly/indirectly reduce consumer choice. The iOS mobile ecosystem is becoming an uncomfortable parallel to the Windows desktop ecosystem -- particularly the browser bundling of the late 1990s, early 2000s. And Apple may very well face some anti trust issues in the coming years.)


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