Adobe Confirms It Will Abandon Flash Player Mobile
Hey, everyone who said Apple was in the wrong for saying "GTFO" to Flash...
You're going to admit you're wrong, right?
As for their older phones running the older OS 6.0 and lower, Flash not being offered may habe been true. To be honest, I never entertained MS phones until now, so I don't know a whole lot about that.
Microsoft announcing they weren't going to support Flash player would be like me holding a press conference to announce that on second thought, I'm not going to sleep with Jessica Alba after all...you and everyone else in the world would be perfectly justified in responding by asking 'when were you ever in the running?'...
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bluecoyote said:
… and that Apple was wrong for saying that Flash was a horrible, resource hogging, always-behind-schedule, poorly-implemented piece of garbage and HTML5 was the future….
You're going to admit you're wrong, right?
and tell the above to the 99.9% of websites with multimedia content that use flash! You think they're gonna stop using it overnight? Like the flip of a switch? HTLML5 isn't ready for primetime.
Look I use a Mac and hate flash myself but unfortunately it's the standard and until HTML5 becomes a suitable replacement we at the mercy of it for now.
I don't think so.
bluecoyote said:
You're going to admit you're wrong, right?
I do not have a dog in the Flash vs HTML5 fight. But if you want others to admit that they are wrong, are you going to admit that your thinking is flawed?
You act as if mobile Flash failed purely of its own accord. Do you not think that Apple's rebuff of Flash for iOS effectively led to Flash's downfall?
For an admittedly ridiculous example (but it illustrates my point), Apple could say that the color blue is bad. Thus, iOS will no longer support display of the color blue. Guess what? Many/most mobile web sites would stop using the color blue. Did blue fail on its own merit? Or did Apple and its iOS market share dictate that result?
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Adobe was unable to produce an acceptably performing version, that's the end of the story. It performed mediocre-ly on some Android devices... for video, at least... and terribly on everything else.
Apple railed against it, Microsoft didn't support it, and Google had no interest in it aside from a cheap attempt to prove how 'open' Android was.
bluecoyote said:
Flash did fail on its own accord. If Flash was good, Apple would have included it.
No, I am sorry. You are just digging a deeper hole for yourself with your flawed reasoning.
The assertion "If Flash was [sic] good, Apple would have included it" contains at least one unsupported assumption.
Now, you certainly make your case that Flash is not good. Others disagree with you (and, as stated previously, I do not take a side), so that is a moot point.
But you assume that Apple would include something if it were good. You do not or cannot make that case. One, as noted above, some do think that Flash is good. Two, for a counterexample, take Blu-ray. Many think that BD is good, yet...
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If Apple doesn't view it as relevant to the future of computing for the product's lifecycle or if it's likely a cheap fad, they don't include it. If they do, they're among the first to include it. This is why they were among the first to offer widespread adoption of USB ports in their computers as the only input method, this is why they abandoned floppy drives years before their competition, and it's why they skipped out on ZIP drives. Hey, many people thought ZIP drives were good, too.
Now of course I tend to land on the pro-Apple side, but because I agree with their views. And it's made them one of t...
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This is an interesting philosophy and reminds me of a great man; Gene Roddenberry.
Your use of "relevant to the future of computing", is sort of chance.
Being somewhat of a Star Trek fan, and growing up during the original series, I had always looked up to Gene as a scholastic visionary. As I grew older, the admiration was still there on how he seemed to vision the future. However I also realized his passion to create a science fiction television show was his primary premise. He was marketing the show, not the technology. No one person can predict the future. They can however, ...
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WiWavelength said:...
Correct me if I am mistaken, but you are well known in these forums as an Apple fanboy and seem to pledge allegiance almost unequivocally to whatever Apple decides, along the lines of "If Apple does not include it, then it is no good." Well, that is effectively just the contrapositive of your assertion ("If Flash was [sic] good..."). So, you appear to presuppose what you set out to conclude. That is called circular reasoning -- another logical flaw.
(Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I am not against Apple. I own a PowerBook, a MacBook Pro, a Mac mini, an iPod touch, an AirPort Express, an AirPort Extreme, and I am typing this post on my 2011 MacBook Air. But I do have qualms about a co
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