FCC's Net Neutrality Rules One Step Closer to Reality
Down with throttling and tiered data!
Let's go back to the old days when we gobbled up gigabyte after gigabyte with no repercussions from the providers! 😈
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What are you talking about? Read the bottom of that post. It says that the providers can regulate services to help with congestion which means it gives them more of a right to put caps on data lol
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Yes. As consumers, we'd all love to keep unlimited, unthrottled data forever. However, net neutrality isn't really about that. Net neutrality means broadband providers can't treat different bits of data differently based on the destination or content. So the provider can charge me whatever I agree to pay and only allow me a certain amount of usage. What they can't do is manage me based on What I access. If I want to stream netflix, or set up a webcam, or use Skype, or watch YouTube, or go to the Verizon video app, I don't have slower access to any of those. Each will be handled the same. The isp can't cripple the speed at which I am able to access any particular service. I get the speed I pay for, and the amount I pay for... Then I'm free to...
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Which would mean charging extra for tethering/mobile hotspot would no longer be legally permissible, am I correct?
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THe rules currently entered into the federal register are more lenient with wireless providers compared to wired. On the grandfathered unlimited plans, the price you paid per month was for unlimited service on that device only.
Extending the concept of net neutrality to current capped plans with overage charges, it really shouldn't matter how you use the limited amount of data you pay for, so allowing tethering or mobile hotspot at no additional cost would be in agreement with full net neutrality. However, we aren't likely to see that anytime soon, as Verizon wireless is quite vocal about its opposition to net neutrality.
Extending the concept of net neutrality to current capped plans with overage charges, it really shouldn't matter how you use the limited amount of data you pay for, so allowing tethering or mobile hotspot at no additional cost would be in agreement with full net neutrality. However, we aren't likely to see that anytime soon, as Verizon wireless is quite vocal about its opposition to net neutrality.
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it means that providers cant block certain websites due to them being adult websites and such so if google wins its lawsuit or vice versa they can use there internet browsers to block or make then less of a website then they are suppose to be
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This comment is not intended to provide an opinion on the legality or morality of any type of content available online. Speaking from a purely business perspective, any isp that sells an allowance of data with overage charges would be shooting themselves in the foot if they blocked access to any type of streaming content. Websites that host videos will cause a consumer accessing that content to incur high data usage, which in turn lends itself to customers paying higher rates for bigger data plans. Let consumers watch whatever they want, and charge them fairly for a certain amount of data access, and the isp's will make more money that way. It's foolish of a broadband provider to cut off a consumers access to something they want to access an...
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Consumers with "Advanced" devices need to be acutely aware of what is covered in their current price plan be it unlimited, capped or tiered.
Moreover, they need to research and read to know what impacts a price plan change or equipment upgrade will have on their data allowance and bottom line cost to operate based on a realistic typical months useage.
**** DO NOT SIMPLY TAKE THE SALESPERSON'S WORD FOR IT. WHAT YOU SIGN SUPERCEDES WHATEVER WAS DISCUSSED AND IT'S NOW YOUR PROBLEM ****
moreover, in MOST cases if you willingly make a plan change that causes a plan or feature like unlimited data to be removed YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET IT BACK! Even if you return the equipment go back to your old device stomp your feet throw a tantru...
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Moreover, they need to research and read to know what impacts a price plan change or equipment upgrade will have on their data allowance and bottom line cost to operate based on a realistic typical months useage.
**** DO NOT SIMPLY TAKE THE SALESPERSON'S WORD FOR IT. WHAT YOU SIGN SUPERCEDES WHATEVER WAS DISCUSSED AND IT'S NOW YOUR PROBLEM ****
moreover, in MOST cases if you willingly make a plan change that causes a plan or feature like unlimited data to be removed YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET IT BACK! Even if you return the equipment go back to your old device stomp your feet throw a tantru...
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While your point is valid, I'm a little confused as to its relevance to this thread. Also, just want to point out that Verizon is allowing, for now anyway, customers with an unlimited smartphone data plan to keep it when they upgrade or process a device change to another smartphone.
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Some websites are more demanding of the network than others....it is only fair that people be charged more doing things which use more data.
Net Neutrality is like the government declaring that no matter how big your package, no matter how much it weighs, the Post Office has to charge everyone the exact same price for sending mail. That sending a post card one block and sending a grand piano 6,000 miles across country have to cost exactly the same.
That's stupid and ridiculous, and the result of trying to enforce such a stupid rule will be higher prices and crappier service for everyone...
Net Neutrality is like the government declaring that no matter how big your package, no matter how much it weighs, the Post Office has to charge everyone the exact same price for sending mail. That sending a post card one block and sending a grand piano 6,000 miles across country have to cost exactly the same.
That's stupid and ridiculous, and the result of trying to enforce such a stupid rule will be higher prices and crappier service for everyone...
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T Bone said:
Some websites are more demanding of the network than others....it is only fair that people be charged more doing things which use more data.
Net Neutrality is like the government declaring that no matter how big your package, no matter how much it weighs, the Post Office has to charge everyone the exact same price for sending mail. That sending a post card one block and sending a grand piano 6,000 miles across country have to cost exactly the same.
This analogy is highly flawed. What makes you think that sending a packet to one website over another guarantees that it will be larger? Also, what makes you think that it costs more to send a packet to one computer over another?
Let's use yo...
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T Bone said:It seems like you've forgotten that websites ALREADY pay for their network bandwidth based on usage. Big users such as Netflix and Youtube ALREADY pay huge amounts for every byte they send out, in proportion to how much they send out.
Some websites are more demanding of the network than others....it is only fair that people be charged more doing things which use more data...
Net neutrality is about making sure that if Netflix uses 10x more data than others, that they only pay 10x more, not 1000x more, and that net providers can't single out Netflix and squeeze them just because they can... all must be treated equally.n... all must be treated equally.
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And even if it did, so what? The government cannot simply pass a law declaring that a finite resource is now infinite.
If that worked, why not have the government pass a law saying that everyone gets unlimited, an unlimited bank account, and an unlimited life span?
Here's an idea, let's have the government give everyone everlasting life by passing a law making it illegal for anyone to die.
Instant utopia: just add government regulation.
If that worked, why not have the government pass a law saying that everyone gets unlimited, an unlimited bank account, and an unlimited life span?
Here's an idea, let's have the government give everyone everlasting life by passing a law making it illegal for anyone to die.
Instant utopia: just add government regulation.
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T Bone said:
And even if it did, so what? The government cannot simply pass a law declaring that a finite resource is now infinite.
I do agree with this. Net Neutrality isn't about giving users unlimited data at an unlimited speed. It is about treating packets equally. Sending packet A to computer A should be treated equally to sending packet B to computer B.
Throttling speeds should not be illegal if it isn't discriminating against one service over another. A good example is this:
Illegal:
- You have a 4Mbps connection.
- You consume 2GB of data watching YouTube videos in a matter of 1 week.
- Carrier (ISP) throttles your connection speed to 1Mbps for YouTube and allows you to watch their own...
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