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7 States Pile On Lawsuit to Stop AT&T/T-Mobile Deal

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Thank you States (& DoJ)! Now America Movil, PLEASE buy TMO!

tether

Sep 16, 2011, 3:01 PM
I think this consolidation of T-Mobile into AT&T would be horrible for the U.S. consumer. You see it happening now that Verizon, ATT & Sprint all mirror what the others do. I really, really hope a powerhouse with deep pockets and hundreds of millions of customers worldwide like America Movil comes in and scoops up T-Mobile for a deal. With their 20 million current Tracfone, StraightTalk and Net10 customers & T-Mobile's 35 or so million it would instantly surpass Sprint as #3 carrier. With lots of cash & spectrum from ATT with the deal being squashed, AM could build out TMO's network dramatically & quickly & could catapult themselves into #1 position before long. I like the idea of an " big outsider" far larger than Verizon or ATT combined e...
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GeeksAreBest

Sep 16, 2011, 3:10 PM
America Movil is a crap company. If they purchase T-Mobile they'll destroy it much more efficiently than AT&T could.
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tether

Sep 16, 2011, 3:13 PM
If they are such crap company, any idea why they have 277 million customers or more than Verizon, ATT, Sprint combined? I guess 277 million people may disagree with you?
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GeeksAreBest

Sep 16, 2011, 3:21 PM
No, they just happen to own 70% of the market share in Mexico under Tercel, so there really isn't much *choice* for many of them, huh? Isn't that exactly what you're trying to prevent here in the US? A controlling company thats very existance limits your choices?

Sounds backward to me..."Let's give a company known for shoddy business practices and controlling the majority of other countries wireless markets a better foothold in the U.S. in order to keep another company from gaining an advantage over the others!"

Besides that, you're talking about 215 million people, most of whom reside in poor or third world countries. Do you really expect a lot out of them when put in charge of a large market share of the U.S. cellular industry?
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Tofuchong

Sep 16, 2011, 8:50 PM
I completly agree with that.

Why not ask a Canadian carrier, like Rogers or Bell, or Telus to buy T-Mobile? Those three carriers, as far as I know, have zero presence in the USA. That would be a better idea I think than a Mexican carrier buying it, but it doesnt really matter becuase none of that will ever happen.
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tether

Sep 17, 2011, 11:05 AM
Canadian carrier would be great too. I don't think they have anywhere near the kind of money that AM or Telefonica have, but I'll take them in a heartbeat over ATT or VZW.
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Versed

Sep 18, 2011, 12:18 PM
tether said:
Canadian carrier would be great too. I don't think they have anywhere near the kind of money that AM or Telefonica have, but I'll take them in a heartbeat over ATT or VZW.


Ask your northern neighbors about Canadian rates before you jump up and down like a moron at an idiot festival about Canadian mobile carriers.
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NonBiasedRep

Sep 20, 2011, 2:11 PM
Haha i love it^ :-)
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tether

Sep 17, 2011, 10:36 AM
I would think this is the point? We allow this to happen, Sprint has said it will be impossible for them to compete. Verizon will scream "unfair that ATT has 135 million customers to their 105 and then be allowed to acquire Sprint catapulting them to 155 million. Then similar to Mexico, we will 2 massive companies (instead of 1) controlling everything. I want to see 4 (or more) larger companies splitting our market. Take a look at Wikipedia and see that most major countries (population-wise) have 4 large cell providers. Just about everyone other small-mid size country have 2 or 3 larger providers. Mexico is quite a bit smaller than the U.S. population wise. Telcel has just 9 million more customers than Sprint. 45 million less than Veri...
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tether

Sep 17, 2011, 11:04 AM
According to what I found on Google, AM has 277 million subs but Wikipedia states that, as of June 2011, America Movil has 290 million subscribers.
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Versed

Sep 18, 2011, 12:16 PM
tether,
True, they have that many customers, and in a land mass from the Rio Grande to Terra Del Fuego. Which is what like x4 the land mass of the US, and at least x3 the population.
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Versed

Sep 18, 2011, 12:15 PM
GeeksAreBest said:
America Movil is a crap company. If they purchase T-Mobile they'll destroy it much more efficiently than AT&T could.


And if you think AT&T and VZW are whores, just see what Carolos Slim would do to TMO.
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tether

Sep 16, 2011, 3:10 PM
This way too we keep our current 4 nationwide carriers & have some serious competition in the cellular market. With AM/TMO beating out Sprint at the get-go and likely to be nipping at the heels of ATT & Verizon shortly thereafter, we consumers would win BIG-TIME! With ATT & VZW having real competition in the form of a resurgeant "big-money backed" T-Mobile, they may all actually have to be capitalists again & actually "compete" for our business rather than being unified in continually screwing us with tiered data, massive data charges, throttled or capped "unlimited" data, increased termination fees, longer contracts, reduced return periods, higher & higher phone costs, fees, phony taxes/charges on bills, etc., etc., etc.
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tether

Sep 16, 2011, 3:27 PM
From what I'm reading both America Movil & Telefonica are massive companies that run GSM like T-Mobile. If committed to expanding T-Mobile's network/subscriber base Telefonica may be a good fit too if AM just wants to remain an MVNO here reselling Verizon, ATT, Sprint & T-Mobile. I just want to keep as much competition around for us all as possible. Now that DT doesn't really want to put anymore money into T-Mobile, if the ATT merger doesn't happen, I really don't want to see T-Mobile just fall apart or be sold off in pieces. A stronger T-Mobile (or whatever the new name may be if changed) with a new owner committed to them would be in all our (consumer's) best interests.
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yourvoiceofreason

Sep 16, 2011, 3:49 PM
Hello Tether,

Thank you for adding what you have added. You helped a point that I was making in another, but similar thread about the merger. So many people here, and on other websites have a little knowledge about things. So this knowledge makes them "experts", knowing exactly what would happen if the merger did not go through. I have seen many say, "well if ATT merger does not go through, T-Mo will just fall apart anyway. So the merger will save jobs."

The point I made earlier is that people are considering all of the possibilities, including what you mentioned (carriers such as America Movil & Telefonica buying Tmo). Just because DT does not want Tmo, does not mean that another company would not want to enter into the wireles...
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tether

Sep 17, 2011, 10:44 AM
I was with TMO for 10 years. I got tired of the their 3G network (& now 4G) just abruptly ending at every major city. I was also tired of EDGE speed data not even working oftentimes in "out of city" areas. I left them for a combo of Verizon (1 line), Boost/Sprint (1 line) & StraightTalk/ATT (using their best Nokia E5, 1 line). I roadtrip all over the country & I can tell you for sure that all 3 of these have WAY better data than T-Mobile. It is sad that DT doesn't want to invest anymore to make them viable data-wise & I want choice to remain. The only way I see this happening is with a large, strong company taking them over. AM & Telefonica aren't my only ideas. Comcast maybe. If there is any possibility that a consortium of US Cellular, Le...
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tether

Sep 17, 2011, 11:23 AM
Just wanted a side-note on this data thing before somebody blasts me with something like "well maybe in the area you travel to". My wife and I are major road-trippers. We moved to Albuquerque, NM from Chicago, IL just over a year ago. We alway road-trip yearly for 3-4 vacations and maybe 6 or so mini-trips a year. We've been to all lower 48 states and just within the past year, we've driven back to Illinois, to Seattle, to Miami, to L.A./San Diego a few times, up to San Fransisco, to Riverton/Casper WY, to Las Vegas, to SLC, to Corpus Christi/Houston, to Dallas etc. So I do have "a lot" of "on-the-go" data experience with the carriers especially T-Mobile. Was just wild "to me" to be able to watch a Netflix movie on the go along I70 about 4...
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dave73

Sep 18, 2011, 11:27 PM
I so far haven't seen anyone mention Vodafone. Sure they have a presence, but only as a 45% stake holder of Verizon Wireless. They were unsuccessful at bidding for the old AT&T Wireless. If they can acquire T-Mobile USA, then they have to sell their stake in Verizon Wireless in order to do so. I would like this partnership to end, as it doesn't benefit Verizon Wireless long-term.
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Woogie

Sep 17, 2011, 5:06 AM
I think the best case scenario would be for a large land line carrier that does not currently have a cellular presence to buy T-Mobile. CenturyLink, maybe? They're currently listed as a dealer for VZW, but they could dump that.
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tether

Sep 17, 2011, 10:50 AM
That would be a great idea too! I like anyone who can bring some cash to the table to expand/improve T-Mobile's network and keep them a viable #4. Comcast would be another idea? Anything that keeps them independent of ATT or Verizon. If they HAVE to merge with any of the Big 3, I would say Sprint but I hope that doesn't happen either. ATT & VZW are right around 100 million subscribers now. To let ATT (or VZW) get to 135 million is nuts. At least Sprint would only be 85 million if combined with T-Mobile or still 15 million short of the other two.
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algorithmplus

Sep 17, 2011, 1:02 PM
I doubt CenturyLink would swoop out and buy T-Mo USA right now. They need to digest their acquisition of Qwest, and they may also want major changes to help integrate the offerings of Savvis before going on another buying spree.
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