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Still nobody wants it

deanwoof

Sep 1, 2011, 7:21 PM
I remember being in the retail stores and WP7 was bashed. Then MS kept assuring us "wait for mango, wait for mango" Well, mango is here, and people still won't sell this thing. WP is just missing "it" - there's no buzz, no excitement, NO WOW FACTOR.
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iDont Care

Sep 1, 2011, 7:48 PM
deanwoof said:
I remember being in the retail stores and WP7 was bashed. Then MS kept assuring us "wait for mango, wait for mango" Well, mango is here, and people still won't sell this thing. WP is just missing "it" - there's no buzz, no excitement, NO WOW FACTOR.


WP7's UI is the most boring I've ever seen. Even iOS with just icons all over the screen looks better. The market is overcrowded now anyway. webOS is far superior and even that didn't make it. What the hell makes M$ think this garbage will. It's laughable how M$ spends millions of dollars trying to shove this crap down our throats but no one cares.

It's all about Android and iOS now. Even though Crackberry is losing users, it'll always have a...
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Vmac39

Sep 1, 2011, 8:19 PM
This OS obviously isn't for everyone but, it gives those of us who want another option. WP7 is plagued with old negativity of the previous OS'. That doesn't mean that this OS isn't a good OS. The lack of new phones until now, the lack of sales rep knowledge and the lack of good marketing, all contributed to the slow growth. Hell, I knew more about the phone than the sales rep, when I got mine. Besides being am Android or iPhone jock hound wasn't for me. I wanted some different
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This_guy_right_here

Sep 1, 2011, 8:44 PM
Caylee Anthony wanted different too.
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versatileslim

Sep 2, 2011, 6:17 PM
^^^^^^That was just plain ignorant
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Vmac39

Sep 3, 2011, 6:01 PM
I admit, there were some redundancies in my statement but, what exactly was ignorant about it?
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bluecoyote

Sep 3, 2011, 3:52 PM
WP7's UI is pretty nice and certainly different. It's a helluva gamble but I wouldn't count it out.

Android sat and rotted for its first year on the market, and despite high device sales, it's a pretty tepid ecosystem and it's viewed as an also-ran by most developers. Don't believe me? Look how many Android apps are garbage compared to their iOS equivalents. (Twitter, Pandora, Rdio, Foursquare, Yelp, Skype, among others...) What's going to make or break a platform is developer support, and quite frankly WP7 is the only one challenging iOS in terms of quality now that WebOS has up and died.

Yes, there are 150,000 apps in the Android market, but the number of apps that aren't total garbage are pretty close to WP7's. Maybe less. Cross p...
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iDont Care

Sep 3, 2011, 5:27 PM
bluecoyote said:
WP7's UI is pretty nice and certainly different. It's a helluva gamble but I wouldn't count it out.

Android sat and rotted for its first year on the market, and despite high device sales, it's a pretty tepid ecosystem and it's viewed as an also-ran by most developers. Don't believe me? Look how many Android apps are garbage compared to their iOS equivalents. (Twitter, Pandora, Rdio, Foursquare, Yelp, Skype, among others...) What's going to make or break a platform is developer support, and quite frankly WP7 is the only one challenging iOS in terms of quality now that WebOS has up and died.

Yes, there are 150,000 apps in the Android market, but the number of apps that aren't total garbage are prett
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bluecoyote

Sep 3, 2011, 7:57 PM
Why is someone who praises Apple products automatically an iSheep?

Better yet, why is the best response you can type that "oh, you're an iSheep?"

So does the whole "Hey, he's coming from the perspective of a mobile developer who has had success working with the platform" thing go over your head? Or the "He's owned just about every phone under the sun and has witnessed firsthand a difference in quality between the iPhone and its predecessors' skip over as well? Or the "Hey, maybe he's got several phones on different platforms with him right now and is offering an honest opinion from an end-users perspective and not someone who hawks them at Cellular Advantage kiosks in B-class malls"
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MrGuder

Sep 4, 2011, 11:48 AM
iDont Care said:


Only an iSheep would defend M$ just to justify their hatred of Android. Unbelievable. webOS I could understand but WP7??? That's low even for you Blue. Rolling Eyes


Well what did you expect from this clown? Apple is the new M$.
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thebigsaxon

Sep 4, 2011, 9:47 AM
I've been doing mobile development on all 3 major platforms and I think WP7 is going to take off in the next year and these are the reasons why:

1. Android is hard to develop for and major platform fragmentation is still a very major concern for many developers which is why oftentimes the the Android client is tepid because they are coding for the common baseline which is going to be 2.2 and an 600x400 resolution. This is why Android apps that are "THD" certified are so much better than the common fare.

2. iOS is a solid platform but one of the biggest problems for secondary developers is over-saturation of apps.

3. It is incredibly easy to make beautiful apps on WP7. It plugs right into VS2010 and you can use any framework you...
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bluecoyote

Sep 4, 2011, 10:52 AM
A lot of things are working to WP7's favor, they need to keep up the effort.
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MrGuder

Sep 4, 2011, 11:45 AM
Yes it's true it's harder to developer apps for Android thus why sometimes the quality of the apps is not on par with iOS. I'll agree on that but it's getting better.

iOS is solid and proven. Will agree on that.

While I'm sure it's easier to develop apps for WP7 and they can look more "beautiful" the fact of the matter is no one wants it. webOS was the most beautiful of them all but no one wanted it.

The year of iOS 5 and WP7 - That's hilarious. You're completely delusional. Android is going no where lmao. WP7 on the other hand is destined for failure. It's a hard sell. You know how many handsets are collating dust in my dealership right now?? I don't even bother anymore.

No one wants it and Nokia want save it either. Look how e...
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MrGuder

Sep 4, 2011, 11:50 AM
collating??? WTF? Spell checker. lol I said COLLECTING.
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thebigsaxon

Sep 4, 2011, 2:38 PM
WP7 has failed thus because of the lack of options. The existing models, all 4 of them had hardware issues and were limited to specific carriers.

WebOS was certainly beautiful but it lacked a coherent developer framework and that is the reason why it failed to draw any true developer support.

WP7 reminds me of the Xbox 360. Microsoft kept pushing it, they kept fixing their mistakes and they kept trying. Now they are the dominant platform that developers work on first and it shows on every single cross-platform game available.

As phones become ever-present, you will see the 2 year life-cycle becoming more and more pronounced and given what Microsoft is doing and the protection they have against frivolous lawsuits, they are very ...
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Kenzin

Sep 3, 2011, 8:52 AM
While I admit the UI is VERY basic...I think they went that route to simplify it up!

Also, they have TONS of "wow" features! Xbox Live, MS Zune, Netflix, MS Office, etc. etc. They have a valuable OS here.

Lack of marketing and VERY poor associate knowledge at most carriers is what is killing this OS.
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thebigsaxon

Sep 4, 2011, 2:39 PM
And crappy phones.
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jjprusk

Sep 4, 2011, 6:23 PM
And crappy O.S. WP is 4th in a 2 horse race...
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Kenzin

Sep 5, 2011, 9:37 AM
I have to disagree with you there. The HTC 7Pro is pretty solid so far.
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