Cingular Taps Lucent for WCDMA/HSDPA Trial Network
lucent?
It looks as though this might be Lucent's chance to revive itself as a top fortune 500 company. The current lucent stock price is $3.44. Really good buy. Although a month ago the price was hovering around $1.50.
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NicholasKiz said:
It looks as though this might be Lucent's chance to revive itself as a top fortune 500 company.
I don't know about the Fortune 500 stuff, but this will definitely be a chance for Lucent to prove the viability of WCDMA/UMTS/HSDPA. And if they manage to get anywhere near 14.4mbps it'll definitely put a wrench in the wheels of GSM bashers (and by this I mean the folks who are SURE CDMA is the "bestest").
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UMTS is completly differant from GSM anyway so the GSM bashers could continue bashing GSM.
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vytaL said:Slip of the tongue, but thanks for pointing it out in such a stupid fashion.
UMTS is completly differant from GSM anyway so the GSM bashers could continue bashing GSM.
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Hate burst anyones bubble but both current TDMA/GSM operators & the CDMA operators are both headed down the tecno highway towards UMTS (hint the U stands for UNIVERSAL) so in 5-6 years there will be one operating system that is supplimented with Wi-Fi.
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badsky2k said:We'll take your word for it.
Hate burst anyones bubble but both current TDMA/GSM operators & the CDMA operators are both headed down the tecno highway towards UMTS (hint the U stands for UNIVERSAL) so in 5-6 years there will be one operating system that is supplimented with Wi-Fi.
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😕 Er... no.
Believe me, UMTS/WCDMA is nowhere on Sprint or Verizon's roadmap. We're talking about WCDMA, and the "W" stands for wideband. Neither company has a "band" wide enough on a nationwide basis. In some areas, yes, but not nationwide.
The way Sprint is inking MVNO deals left and right, it seems clear that they plan to continue on their current narrowband CDMA path. Adding all those users to the network is the last thing they would do if they wanted to make room for WCDMA.
Verizon doesn't have a choice. Most of their network is 800/850 MHz, and WCDMA simply doesn't work in that band.
Believe me, UMTS/WCDMA is nowhere on Sprint or Verizon's roadmap. We're talking about WCDMA, and the "W" stands for wideband. Neither company has a "band" wide enough on a nationwide basis. In some areas, yes, but not nationwide.
The way Sprint is inking MVNO deals left and right, it seems clear that they plan to continue on their current narrowband CDMA path. Adding all those users to the network is the last thing they would do if they wanted to make room for WCDMA.
Verizon doesn't have a choice. Most of their network is 800/850 MHz, and WCDMA simply doesn't work in that band.
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badsky2k said:
Hate burst anyones bubble but both current TDMA/GSM operators & the CDMA operators are both headed down the tecno highway towards UMTS (hint the U stands for UNIVERSAL) so in 5-6 years there will be one operating system that is supplimented with Wi-Fi.
The future is indeed interesting. Air interface may not be as big of a deal. Software defined base stations should be mainstream by then. that would enable operators to support multiple air interfaces more easily, most likely over different channels. they could change the configuration of their base stations with just software and on the fly..maybe. supporting different air interfaces over the same radio channel is not as likely. that could be...
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Lucent has had some bad luck with UMTs. First, as one can expect, most of the UMTS contracts went to regional (European or Japanese) vendors since the networks were deployed in such fashion.
The firms that had supported lucent or trialed extensively with them then pulled the plug on their UMTs ventures or scaled back dramatically.
Frankly, i would trust lucent a lot more than i'd trust ericsson or nokia to put up a umts network. lucent has a lot more experience with CDMA which helps with wcdma.
The firms that had supported lucent or trialed extensively with them then pulled the plug on their UMTs ventures or scaled back dramatically.
Frankly, i would trust lucent a lot more than i'd trust ericsson or nokia to put up a umts network. lucent has a lot more experience with CDMA which helps with wcdma.
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viper said:Due to expense, or problems?
The firms that had supported lucent or trialed extensively with them then pulled the plug on their UMTs ventures or scaled back dramatically.
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OK All... want to see what real 3G (WCDMA/UMTS) is all about? Go to this link;
http://www.nttdocomo.com/corebiz/foma/try/index.html »
It's operational in Japan already (3 million handsets operational to date). NTT DoCoMo owns 16% of AT&T Wireless and is in talks with Cingular (of course). WCDMA is also where Verizon & Sprint are headed also. AT&T and Verizon are field testing WCDMA cell sites in certain cities with Motorola and other handsets. So... you do not have to take my "word" on this, just search the net' and the facts are there. Besides, I just left AT&T Wireless after 4.5 years and this is common knowledge in "the biz".
http://www.nttdocomo.com/corebiz/foma/try/index.html »
It's operational in Japan already (3 million handsets operational to date). NTT DoCoMo owns 16% of AT&T Wireless and is in talks with Cingular (of course). WCDMA is also where Verizon & Sprint are headed also. AT&T and Verizon are field testing WCDMA cell sites in certain cities with Motorola and other handsets. So... you do not have to take my "word" on this, just search the net' and the facts are there. Besides, I just left AT&T Wireless after 4.5 years and this is common knowledge in "the biz".
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Actually, FOMA is not UMTS, it's non-standard WCDMA, although it's close, and they're in the process of migrating to a more standard version.
But that's really not a big deal. WCDMA/UMTS is also already launched and operational in the UK, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Australia, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, and a number of other countries.
AT&T Wireless has been testing WCDMA in Dallas for well over a year, and they will launch it commercially in four cities in just a few months.
You are incorrect about Sprint and Verizon, however. WCDMA is nowhere on their roadmap. They sticking with the standard CDMA 3G path, including EV-DO and/or EV-DV.
But the real news here with Cingular's trial is the HSDPA part. This is a major milestone for th...
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But that's really not a big deal. WCDMA/UMTS is also already launched and operational in the UK, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Australia, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, and a number of other countries.
AT&T Wireless has been testing WCDMA in Dallas for well over a year, and they will launch it commercially in four cities in just a few months.
You are incorrect about Sprint and Verizon, however. WCDMA is nowhere on their roadmap. They sticking with the standard CDMA 3G path, including EV-DO and/or EV-DV.
But the real news here with Cingular's trial is the HSDPA part. This is a major milestone for th...
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Hey rich explain something for me:
ATT, as you said, has been performing WCDMA trials in Dallas for a year now. The Cingular takeover is said to be in effect by the end of this year. Does this mean that all WCDMA research done by ATT will be handed over to Cingular? And also, why is ATT testing WCDMA when they are going to lose their company anyway? Isnt ATT migrating to Sprint's network? I need some answers because I am confused.
Nick
ATT, as you said, has been performing WCDMA trials in Dallas for a year now. The Cingular takeover is said to be in effect by the end of this year. Does this mean that all WCDMA research done by ATT will be handed over to Cingular? And also, why is ATT testing WCDMA when they are going to lose their company anyway? Isnt ATT migrating to Sprint's network? I need some answers because I am confused.
Nick
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Also, why will ATT deploy WCDMA in a couple of months if its losing the company?
Nick
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It's the law that both companies must act independently and competitively until the merger is finalized.
But regardless, AT&T isn't "losing" anything. AT&T Wireless will merge with Cingular, and everything from both companies will be integrated, including GSM and WCDMA networks.
Also, it's in the best interest of AT&T Wireless and its shareholders to move forward and remain a viable company until the very last day. If they just "gave up" and stopped trying to be a good company, they would obviously wither and become a bad company, and Cingular would probably back out of the merger deal. That would leave the AT&T Wireless shareholders with a crummy company and without the $41 billion they were promised. The WCDMA networks that AT&T Wire...
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But regardless, AT&T isn't "losing" anything. AT&T Wireless will merge with Cingular, and everything from both companies will be integrated, including GSM and WCDMA networks.
Also, it's in the best interest of AT&T Wireless and its shareholders to move forward and remain a viable company until the very last day. If they just "gave up" and stopped trying to be a good company, they would obviously wither and become a bad company, and Cingular would probably back out of the merger deal. That would leave the AT&T Wireless shareholders with a crummy company and without the $41 billion they were promised. The WCDMA networks that AT&T Wire...
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1. AT&T and AT&T Wireless are two completely separate companies. They share a logo and the letters "AT&T" in their name, but that's it.
2. Therefore, AT&T isn't "losing" their company - it's not theirs to lose. Rather, AT&T Wireless - an independent company - is merging with Cingular.
3. Similarly, AT&T isn't "migrating" to CDMA. AT&T has no wireless network right now. They have just inked a deal to sell service using Sprint's network, which will take effect after AT&T Wireless becomes part of Cingular.
4. Yes, AT&T Wireless' work on WCDMA, including test and commercial networks, will become part of Cingular. AT&T Wireless started working on WCDMA way before the Cingular deal was even in negotiations. The WCDMA efforts of both compa...
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2. Therefore, AT&T isn't "losing" their company - it's not theirs to lose. Rather, AT&T Wireless - an independent company - is merging with Cingular.
3. Similarly, AT&T isn't "migrating" to CDMA. AT&T has no wireless network right now. They have just inked a deal to sell service using Sprint's network, which will take effect after AT&T Wireless becomes part of Cingular.
4. Yes, AT&T Wireless' work on WCDMA, including test and commercial networks, will become part of Cingular. AT&T Wireless started working on WCDMA way before the Cingular deal was even in negotiations. The WCDMA efforts of both compa...
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badsky2k said:What? The fact that you got everything wrong the first time you p...
OK All... want to see what real 3G (WCDMA/UMTS) is all about? Go to this link;
http://www.nttdocomo.com/corebiz/foma/try/index.html »
It's operational in Japan already (3 million handsets operational to date). NTT DoCoMo owns 16% of AT&T Wireless and is in talks with Cingular (of course). WCDMA is also where Verizon & Sprint are headed also. AT&T and Verizon are field testing WCDMA cell sites in certain cities with Motorola and other handsets. So... you do not have to take my "word" on this, just search the net' and the facts are there. Besides, I just left AT&T Wireless after 4.5 years and this is common knowledge in "the biz".
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