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Switching to Sprint

rwrife

Jul 5, 2011, 11:57 AM
When my contract is up, I'm switching to Sprint. I have a pretty sweet deal with VZW now and it won't be going away, but I can't stay with a company that supports inflating prices this much. In no way does this save any user any money, nor does it give them any new options.
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Jayshmay

Jul 5, 2011, 12:20 PM
Well it's been a full year since ATT murdered unlimited and rendered smartphones useless. It doesn't seem to have effected their subscriber base.
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acdc1a

Jul 5, 2011, 12:31 PM
The smart ones will defect when their i-Phone contracts come up.

Also, have a look at how the subscriber additions are slowing. Does capping have something to do with that?
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Jayshmay

Jul 5, 2011, 12:34 PM
Hmm, and Sprints subscriber base is begginning to grow.
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acdc1a

Jul 5, 2011, 12:41 PM
Definitely something to ponder. I think the consumer may finally be putting their thinking caps on. We'll see what happens as time goes on.
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Versed

Jul 5, 2011, 6:22 PM
acdc1a said:
The smart ones will defect when their i-Phone contracts come up.

Also, have a look at how the subscriber additions are slowing. Does capping have something to do with that?


Except those with unlimited data plans are grandfathered with them with new phones and contracts. Same is going to be true with VZW.

And your final delusional statement is odd, since both AT&T and VZW have picked up more customers each quarter then Sprint and TMO.
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Slammer

Jul 5, 2011, 7:03 PM
---" both AT&T and VZW have picked up more customers each quarter then Sprint and TMO."---

With the popularity and rise of smartphones, I have opted to start a counseling business as a side job to help people make the right choices for their wireless needs. Nothing serious, but something to entertain my passion for phones. Hundreds and even thousands of dollars are spent by individuals every year for phone services. Since I do not work for a carrier or obtain perks from a carrier, I am honored to offer unbiased views and info.

When I am approached for my services, I have some very important questions I ask. Most of these very important questions are never asked by carriers. There is a good reason why.

So far in the 3 months I have ...
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Versed

Jul 5, 2011, 8:17 PM
John,
Just remember, I replied to a statement which the previous poster put forth. If I proposed it at first, you would be 100% correct.

BTW, I wish you good luck with your business. And I hope your clients get the benefits of your advice.
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Cellenator

Jul 6, 2011, 3:51 PM
I bet 9 out 10 customers you recommend Sprint! 🤣
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Slammer

Jul 6, 2011, 4:57 PM
Actually, I do not recommend. I only assist the clients to determine their best interest. This is a consulting business. Not sales. There is no commission or compensation from carriers for what I am doing. This is not a forum based on debates. My drive is the satisfaction of my client.There is a strict code of ethics that comes with consulting. It is absolutely imperative that I remain unbiased and truly honest when dealing with clients.

However, I will say that I have had clients ask me what carrier I use. Even then, I refrain from extensive information.

John B.
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Cellenator

Jul 6, 2011, 11:07 PM
that's fair
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JeffroPuff

Jul 6, 2011, 4:51 PM
...John, haven't you said before that you are a stockholder or some such nonsense? I'll bet you are providing your "clients" some really great advice.
Out of curiosity, what do you charge people for your services? it seems like whatever savings you think shuffling people over to Sprint would give your clients wouldn't be massive savings, and wouldn't give you much margain to slurp off of. ....yeah.......slurp.

Oh, and FYI - THAT is not why carrier reps don't like you. Your inane prattling and pretentious posts are why they don't like you, boner.
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Slammer

Jul 7, 2011, 5:55 AM
So what's your issue here Jeff?

I think my post was candid, concise and unbiased. I entertain an experimental startup business, and you seem to take offense. I don't own stock in any wireless industry company nor do I work for such. And I don't get paid much for the services I'm offering. This is just a hobby to try. Full time, I am a 50 year old service technician for restaurant equipment and have a passion for the wireless business. My 24 years of being a consumer of the wireless business and learning about the business, allows me to express my knowledge, views and thoughts. I like Sprint but am free to roam for others if I feel I am not treated fairly. My maturity also allows me the common sense to separate my business interests from...
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Red_Minx

Jul 7, 2011, 4:36 PM
~claps and claps and claps~ I still think you should run for president. You sound alot more intelligent than anyone we've had in awhile lol
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Slammer

Jul 7, 2011, 6:56 PM
Presidency is not in my future. I don't own a Blackberry an iPhone or any dividends wrapped up in oil. But thanks for the nomination. 😁

John B.
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JeffroPuff

Jul 8, 2011, 5:29 PM
Dearest John,

Thank you for your prompt reply. My deepest and most heartfelt apologies for not responding to your reply in a quick fashion. I was busy, and honestly forgot I replied to you in the first place.
To answer your question, "What is the problem", I take issue with many things. Such as why "blue raspberry" is a flavor for anything when raspberries aren't in fact blue, nor have I ever tasted a raspberry with the overpowering sweetness and tartness of scrots. I mean seriously, John. it's like someone put sugar and squirted lemon juice into a pan of hotdog water. Have you ever boiled hotdogs, thrown out the hotdogs and sipped the water. You know what I'm talking about.
I would hardly qualify my reply as an attack. I consider it...
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Slammer

Jul 13, 2011, 7:05 AM
Jeff,

Now that you have established a more articulate, mature choice in vocabulary for expressing an opinion, don't you feel better knowing your response this time around is far more intelligent than the first one towards me? It allows me a more respectable view of your thoughts.

There are several things we have concluded here. Even though we have careers outside of the wireless industry, we both have a passion for it. We also have some descention towards carrier reps and we both feel hotdogs are far better cooked on a grill.

My personal respect goes to you for the continued effort to study how our world has evolved and how you tolerate weather better suited for Emporer Penguins.

John B.

BTW, I don't like Rasberries.
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planethulk

Jul 6, 2011, 7:23 PM
"Can the fan boy stuff.
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Slammer

Jul 6, 2011, 10:56 PM
Where do you get fanboyism out of my post?

I stated that I have initiated a legitimate business that helps consumers with making their own rational decisions and many times the larger carriers are not for them. This is not an opinion open for debate. It is fact.

Please try again.

John B.
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Boombocker

Jul 7, 2011, 8:53 AM
John, impartial informed advice, because there is a large selection of phones and services, in hopes we can get some straightforward pricing, sounds wonderful! If only you would be there for the life of my phone...
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Slammer

Jul 7, 2011, 9:59 AM
Thanks for the kind words!

I wish I could elaborate more on this concept business. But I think you understand the secretive aspects currently.

People are more likely to trust me over a carrier rep. However, I would like the carrier reps to know that this idea of mine could quite possibly make their jobs much easier. My clients will hopefully have all the knowledge they need and be fully engaged in the carrier of their choice. They will walk in, purchase their products and leave. The Rep still retains a commission with less time and questions asked. The susbscriber will be more confident in their purchase.

John B.
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acdc1a

Jul 5, 2011, 7:24 PM
How do you account for the fact that a company as small as Metro has outperformed them all?
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Beth

Jul 5, 2011, 12:25 PM
good luck with sprint they SUCKED in my area, I got the Commando on verizon and I'm going NO WHERE!
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hepresearch

Jul 5, 2011, 1:00 PM
Some time next year, I imagine Sprint will apply tiered data caps as well. First AT&T, now Verizon, Sprint next.

In the coming years, there will be no such thing as unlimited data access on any service, wireless or hard-line, any more. It will all be metered out, at ever increasing costs, and with ever increasing controls and tracking, to everyone... information rationing!
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acdc1a

Jul 5, 2011, 1:13 PM
Your assessment could be accurate I'm afraid. It's why less competition can't be allowed.
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iDont Care

Jul 5, 2011, 1:22 PM
If you're with Verizon now you'll be grandfathered in so theres no reason to care.

Don't think Sprint wont pull this crap either. They may give you all you can eat WiMAX at the moment but the coverage stinks anyway. If you think they wont implements caps with their LTE you're sadly mistaken. T-Mo has caps too now so it's only a matter time before Sprint jumps on the bandwagon
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Dreyfous23

Jul 5, 2011, 7:36 PM
Sprint is giving unlimited Data period. Not just their 4G service but their 2/3g Data as well. And it's more likely that Sprint will stick with Unlimited because they can offer it such a deal with a network that isn't highly saturated like VZN/At&t.
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Vmac39

Jul 5, 2011, 9:58 PM
For now, anyway. What happens when more people begin to jump over to Sprint? Their network will become just as saturated and they will start implementing tiered plans, too. Sprint will ride the unlimited data wave as long as possible, only because it will give them a chance to bolster their customer base. I give them a year or two and they will be right along with the rest of the carriers. The smaller carriers don't have this to worry about for now because, they don't offer as many smart phones and I dont think their networks get bogged down by customer data use, anway. At least the parts they actually own. Assuming this has anything to do with it at all.
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Azeron

Jul 5, 2011, 10:35 PM
Well at least you're honest. Verizon isn't making this change because their network is bogged down by customer data use. They're making it because they can.

"Assuming this has anything to do with it at all."

It doesn't. Verizon and AT&T pretty much ignore what Sprint and T-Mobile do for the most part. Their only competition is one another.
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Azeron

Jul 5, 2011, 6:33 PM
It is good to see a person of honor. Me personally, as much as I detest Verizon as long as I have the plan I want I could care less. Great to see you standing by your principles though. Nice job!
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Cellenator

Jul 5, 2011, 6:40 PM
I like you better when you were gone! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Slammer

Jul 5, 2011, 7:28 PM
I feel for you Azeron. You are in between a rock and a hard place. What makes it infuriating, is that the carrier knows they have you right where they want you.

John B.
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acdc1a

Jul 5, 2011, 7:32 PM
You've brought me right back to my point. There are two big players and everyone else. One big player starts to throttle and the other follows their lead. Right now you can still get unlimited at T-mobile (albiet throttled) and Sprint. What happens when you remove one of those players.

We've also got the problem of contracts. When consumers are free to choose, often they'll choose what's in their best interest.
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Versed

Jul 5, 2011, 8:19 PM
Its a shame Sprint will not sell a phone at face value and allow you to use their services on a month to month basis. All the other carriers allow this.
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Slammer

Jul 5, 2011, 8:53 PM
Sprint does too. It's called Virgin Mobile or Boost Mobile. These are very popular services.

John B.
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Versed

Jul 5, 2011, 9:23 PM
I used a VM mifi, good deal unlimited $40 and grandfathered.

But still not the same, if I walk in with an EVO, unless I sign for 2 years, they won't give me service. But hey, all of these guys have issues, I guess thats minor compared to other things.
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Slammer

Jul 5, 2011, 9:47 PM
No they won't. That has been an addressed issue. Who knows if that will change.

As it stands, their no risk trial is pretty good in allowing one to taste before purchasing.

John B.
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Versed

Jul 5, 2011, 10:25 PM
John,
We've argued before, but this may surprise you, if I was to go to a CDMA carrier, it would be Sprint.
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Slammer

Jul 6, 2011, 7:16 AM
Versed,

We do not argue. We discuss logically, and at times disagree with one another's assessments on a matured level.

John B.
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VZW611LA

Jul 5, 2011, 6:56 PM
Sprint is next to end unlimited options. Their network shows it more and more each day. This is nothing new in the world. The US is last to offer unlimited data option. If you have it, be happy. If not, get over it.

On the other hand, Verizon is about to launch new calling and family data plans.
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Azeron

Jul 5, 2011, 7:26 PM
We were trained that if a customer wanted to cancel service you give a big smile and a handshake. You don't want them to remain with a competitor just to spite you because you were rude or indifferent when they left.
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Dreyfous23

Jul 5, 2011, 7:39 PM
Sprint's Data network constantly runs faster than At&t's joke of a data/4g network... So enjoy paying outrageous prices for slower data while others pay less and enjoy faster speeds with Sprint.
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Versed

Jul 5, 2011, 8:23 PM
Funny, was in the mall a few days ago, checking the EVO 3D (yes one damned nice phone) did a speed check between it and my inspire on cm 7.1 I was getting like 3 down and 1.6 up on AT&T. Got like 765kps down and 300 up on Sprint. I know milage can and will vary. BUT this was in a Sprint Store and we don't have WiMAX in my area.
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Azeron

Jul 5, 2011, 10:29 PM
"Sprint's Data network constantly runs faster than At&t's joke of a data/4g network... So enjoy paying outrageous prices for slower data while others pay less and enjoy faster speeds with Sprint."

So...you are replying to a Verizon fanboy so what does AT&T's "joke of a data/4g network" have to do with it?
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pickles

Jul 5, 2011, 11:32 PM
he was itching to talk some ish about AT&T, and for some reason thinks people on the internet care.
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SquareCircuit

Jul 6, 2011, 8:31 AM
I have sprint, i love it , customer service, payment arrangements are awesome!, service is awesome ( espically in doors when tmobile drops off )

i have a really good price,

the apps that come bundled with the EVO like navigation is AWESOME!!!

tether with easy tether ( awsesome )

basically the only thing i dont like about sprint is lack of 4g Coverage ( honestly i can wait ) .. i dont even mind paying 10 dollars for premium data ,,,.. its a premium phone and all works excellent .. i am super impressed

lets all join sprint and let the competition begin
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Azeron

Jul 7, 2011, 12:14 AM
Meh... I'm good. While I do want Sprint to be successful...it won't work for me in Lower Alabama.
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