Sprint Does AT&T's Homework
STFU Sprint!
rarodrig26 said:
Except what does Sprint have an F in?? Yeah your clever analogy isnt as clever as you thought.
Clear.... what a joke! at least in Oregon
rarodrig26 said:
Except what does Sprint have an F in?? Yeah your clever analogy isnt as clever as you thought.
Now THAT'S ironic. Sprint has almost nothing but F's:
An F in network coverage.
An F in reliability (combination of their lousy coverage and their cheapskate maintenance practices).
An F in customer service.
An F in WiMax buildout.
An F in managing the Nextel acquisition.
An F for Qchat.
Sprint does get straight A's for:
Lost opportunity (they totally blew their lead in 4G).
Lost market value (i.e lost shareholder value).
I'll give them a "B" for having better value with their calling & data plans.
-Coverage, you mean second best in the country and only marginally behind verizon?
-Reliability? You mean how every survey from the last 2 yrs as Sprint coming 1st or 2nd in fewest dropped calls.
-Customer Service? Almost shouldnt even justify this. Sprint's customer service is blowing everyone else away right now. Keep trying troll. Do some research.
-Wi-Max buildout, lets compare it with at&ts LTE rollout...yea thought so.
You're a joke. Grow up. Do some homework.
-Nextel acquistion was like 5 yrs ago now, find somethin new to bring up. They've correct those issues (including changing CEOs). Everyone else has moved on.
-Qchat? Seriously? Cuz Verizon is doin...
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QChat - yea, VZW is still trying to get that dead horse to move, lol
Right. The Sprint CDMA network was just barely larger than the old Nextel network, and Sprint has only increased it very slightly since then. That's a slap in your face right there - your beloved Sprint's network is BARELY larger than the old Nextel, and nowhere near as large at Verizon's native CDMA or ATT's native GSM networks. Nowhere close.
Reliable network? Depends entirely on which region you care to look at. You obviously are cherry-picking the only place Sprint had a decent rating for reliability: the American southwest. And despite your dreaming, Spr...
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"Coverage, you mean second best in the country and only marginally behind verizon?"
No. Third. T-Mobile makes everyone look good.
"-Reliability? You mean how every survey from the last 2 yrs as Sprint coming 1st or 2nd in fewest dropped calls."
If one can't find a survey that puts one in a positive light SOMEWHERE in America then one isn't spending the right amount of cash.
"-Customer Service? Almost shouldnt even justify this. Sprint's customer service is blowing everyone else away right now. Keep trying troll. Do some research."
Not hardly. One survey where Sprint TIED Verizon in a few markets...
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"An F in network coverage."
Not at all. Does it match AT&T and Verizon's maps? Of course not. If Verizon is a B+ and AT&T is a B. I would give Sprint a C and T-Mobile a D.
"An F in reliability (combination of their lousy coverage and their cheapskate maintenance practices)."
Again your lack of objectivity is obvious. I'd give them a B here. Their coverage maps give a clear indication of coverage and where they have coverage it works well. If you said a C even perhaps your pathetic rant would be believable.
"An F in customer service."
I'd like to know what scale you are using and what time frame. Back when they fired those 500 customers for calling...
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If you take into account all three networks (CDMA, iDEN, WiMax), Sprint's corporate total for network reliability is poor. Their CDMA is decent, I'll give you that, although they have made no real progress on even their 3G for years now. iDEN used to be nearly bullet-proof, then Sprint got hold of it and turned it into one of the least reliable networks in the US. iDEN got better...
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Sitting on reserved spectrum that could have better served their susbscribers, ATT has defaulted on how to manage theirs. Proof of dropped calls, noisy voice ca...
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I feel I am one of the more even tempered individuals on this forum and try to keep a composure of respect towards others. You are not an averge forum "troll" that spews garbage shot from the hip.
However, WiWavelength(AJ) has placed numerous facts and accounts in front of you to observe the true aspects of who is hoarding and who is not. The definition of unused spectrum is quite different here. Sprint has not only made clear of their intent is with their holdings, they have begun the process. The spectrum not used thus far, is reserved for future markets of WiMAX/LTE. that is not hoarding. If you want to look at it this way, Verizon is indeed sitting on unused spectrum as well since all their markets are not covered yet. Eve...
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I don't care about maps of what any company owns on spectrum. What I see is total nonsense when one company sits on a pot of spectrum then cries when another does the same. Or if one company makes an error and drops $32 or 35 billion dollars on buying a failing mobile company then cries when another spends more or less the same a few years later. Sprint right now is going to be sitting on a pot of 800mhz spectrum. Don't see them making plans, and they should. I do so them making some sound deals with LightSquared.
More of what I see is Sprint Fanboism and crying and moaning. I bet there would be non of this if Sprint was able to snag TMO. I'm sure we would hear no cries of only "1" gsm carrier left as we do know.
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-dont worry he and i have debated even tho we seem to be on the same side on most issues. 😉
"Sprint right now is going to be sitting on a pot of 800mhz spectrum. Don't see them making plans"
-Then you arent doing any research. Google Sprint Network Vision then come back and talk. I dont intend to do your homework for you. (as sprint did for at&t)
I am not for Sprint buying Tmobile. I was against it and still am. However, my choice b...
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You have a point about TMO, today was in a local mall, walked into the TMO Corporate Store, two people in there, ok we have ups and downs. Not the point. Two salesperson, one was helping a customer, the other was texting, didn't even ask the person ahead of me, or myself can I help you. That is an issue.
I went in to see the Sensation.
Also walked past the VZW store, customers and agents helping them, same for the AT&T store when I went in, can I help you. Same thing with the local Sprint store by me. Agents ready to help. Yes, Sprints trying, no doubt. And I hope they do well.
AJ indeed shined the light on AT&T's lies and if this merger goes through unless they are forced to implement the strategy they will continue to drag their feet.
In construction, piles of wood or bricks not yet used while in the building process, is not hoarding. It is waiting to be used for that construction process. Such as Sprint's 4G building of its network. There is no way they can use it all up and finish the job overnight.
Having years of these same piles of bricks or wood with no construction in sight, is hoarding. ATT's network has suffered greatly over the last few years. They did not make any attempt to utilize their large amount of publically owned spectrum to fix these issues. Only when another carrier was promised the Jesus phone, did ATT attempt to brush the dust off a small portion of their spectrum to make a temporary fix. They have much...
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B. Sprint isnt trying to buy another company and using the excuse that they don't have enough spectrum, which is what at&t is doing.
Sprint called at&t on their BS. That's it. The mngment of at&t is either too dumb to run their network upgrades correctly, or too shady and is lying about their ability to update it just to get the merger to go thru. Either way sound like somebody else should be in control of things sounds like.
And at&t can sit on as much spectrum as they like provided it doesn't negatively impact their network. Only their network is universally understood to be overloaded. They've been on board the iPhone train for as long as they can, and during that time they gave seemingly little thought to care of the network or their future. It was all about using that big ileverage to isqueeze their icustomers. Now that their exclusivity is gone and the iPhone has (in my opinion...
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Pretty much one of those "If we can't have T-Mobile, no one can!" attitudes if you ask me.
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Again, let Sprint manage their network, and AT&T and others manage theirs.
Its not up to Sprint to tell others how to run their companies, and assets, after all, as a company their really doing a wonderful job making money. Sprint has written off about as much market capitalization as AT&T is spending on TMO.
Versed said:
In other words unless you agree with AJ and yourself, you're a tool, troll, idiot or whatever name you wish to call. I don't care what maps, overlays, charts, or what have you, it has nothing to do with anything.
Again, let Sprint manage their network, and AT&T and others manage theirs.
Its not up to Sprint to tell others how to run their companies, and assets, after all, as a company their really doing a wonderful job making money. Sprint has written off about as much market capitalization as AT&T is spending on TMO.
I'm not gonna say that anyone who doesn't agree with me is a troll/idiot/etc, but if the shoe fits...
Lets take you, for example only of course. The only arguem...
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AceXMachine said:...
I'm not gonna say that anyone who doesn't agree with me is a troll/idiot/etc, but if the shoe fits...
Lets take you, for example only of course. The only arguement you made in that whole post was "...let Sprint manage their network, and AT&T and others manage theirs." This debate is not about Sprint trying to manage AT&Ts network. Its about AT&T trying to buy more of that which it already possesses more of than anyone else but refuses to use it. AT&T is in fact refusing to "manage" its network and crying that it "needs" this merger or it network will crumble...or some such bull**** as that. Sprint is simply pointing out, correctly I might add, that AT&T can fix and augment its network for yea
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Again, anyone who disagree's is a liar, immature or whatever you wish to say. Sprint is trying to tell AT&T to do its homework. And yes, they ARE trying to tell them what to do with their network. Let them do their own first, let them fix up their mess with Clear. Let them deploy WiMax out to more markets, and improve its throughput. Let them actually make money, when thats done, they can feel free to tell others what to do.
Versed said:
Azeron,
Again, anyone who disagree's is a liar, immature or whatever you wish to say.
I've been known to disagree to with Azeron from time to time, but this time he definitely nailed it... it isn't Sprint telling AT&T "you should run your network this way." It's them saying "Hey, stop lieing."
It's like a doctor telling you not to smoke while puffing on a cigarette. Concentrate on the message and no so much who's saying it. If it were Verizon that did this analysis would you complain? What if it was Metro PCS? Boost Mobile? Western Wireless? etc.
Don't ignore the valid point just because you don't like the where the point is coming from.
Well said!
Iknownothing said:
I'm sorry how much money does at&t have? And how many markets do they have hspa+ in? Compared to little old Sprint? I find your comment equally confusing and amusing.
I was agreeing with "Versed" that Sprint should clean up its own house before criticizing others. Not that Sprint is wrong, not that ATT is right, just that it is ironic that Sprint is spending so much money on lawyers to make a stink about ATT's move, while Sprint itself has frittered away all the value they have held in their own hands for the past six years in terms of WiMax, Nextel, Clear, etc.
It can be summed up in a nutshell: Sprint criticizing and attempting to thwart ATT is like the pot calling the kettle black...
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