FCC Promises Thorough Review of AT&T / T-Mobile Merger
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...it is not going to happen. No way the removal of T-Mobile as a wireless carrier makes sense. DT wants out? Fine. Sell to Vodaphone. I am sure they wouldn't mind getting out of their silent partnership with Verizon Communications and showing how it should be done. FCC do not allow the number four carrier to simply...disappear. You made mistakes with ATTWS and Alltel don't repeat them merely because a foolish precedent has been set in the past.
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Azeron said:
...it is not going to happen. No way the removal of T-Mobile as a wireless carrier makes sense. DT wants out? Fine. Sell to Vodaphone. I am sure they wouldn't mind getting out of their silent partnership with Verizon Communications and showing how it should be done. FCC do not allow the number four carrier to simply...disappear. You made mistakes with ATTWS and Alltel don't repeat them merely because a foolish precedent has been set in the past.
I'm betting it will go through, they're just trying to save face at this point and make people think it's a harder fight than it actually was.
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Me too. AT&T has more than enough money to line the pockets of the decision makers at the FCC...
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Of course it is going to happen, like it or not. The FCC allowed SWB buy up every regional carrier then they let them buy AT&T. Why would they say no to this one? They will probably make AT&T divest themselves of some of their smaller markets and make some promises about not raising prices (which they wil break).
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Azeron said:
...it is not going to happen. No way the removal of T-Mobile as a wireless carrier makes sense. DT wants out? Fine. Sell to Vodaphone. I am sure they wouldn't mind getting out of their silent partnership with Verizon Communications and showing how it should be done. FCC do not allow the number four carrier to simply...disappear. You made mistakes with ATTWS and Alltel don't repeat them merely because a foolish precedent has been set in the past.
Verizon Wireless is way too profitable and Vodafone doesn't want to sell their shares back to them at any cost. They would be stupid to do so anyway and they most likely don't want to take a risk in creating a US presence for themselves.
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Vodafone would never sell their 45% ownershipe of Verizon Wireless to buy a non-profitable carrier they would have to sink money into and rename. VzW is free money for Vodafone who has been trying to buy out VzW for years.
The only company that would be bought out by vodafone if it was to be open for acquisition is At&t who they attempted to buy out back when it was Cingular.
The only company that would be bought out by vodafone if it was to be open for acquisition is At&t who they attempted to buy out back when it was Cingular.
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Where are all these dividends Vodaphone has reaped from their 45% stake in VZW? Can you show me?
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Verizon stopped giving their dividends to vodafone because of the alltel purchase. they will resume soon. and trust me... they reap a lot 🙂
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this is one. http://www.cellular-news.com/story/43884.php
"Vodafone owns 45% of the wireless company and hasn't received any dividends from the subsidiary since 2005 - when it received a payment of US$1.8 billion from the company."
this is another from vodafone's 2005 reporting
"Six months to 30 September 2005 includes £295 million (2004: £423 million) from the Group’s interest in SFR and £79 million (2004: £447
million) from Verizon Wireless" "Dividends received from associated undertakings "
"Vodafone owns 45% of the wireless company and hasn't received any dividends from the subsidiary since 2005 - when it received a payment of US$1.8 billion from the company."
this is another from vodafone's 2005 reporting
"Six months to 30 September 2005 includes £295 million (2004: £423 million) from the Group’s interest in SFR and £79 million (2004: £447
million) from Verizon Wireless" "Dividends received from associated undertakings "
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I really appreciate that. So...Vodaphone has not received any dividends from VZW since 2005. They just began the Alltel buy in 2009. So for four years prior they have seen no dividends from VZW and you believe they are happy with that? I imagine Vodaphone would love to control a company of its own. We shall see. First things first...we have to get this AT&T buy stopped. THEN let's see how happy Vodaphone is.
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Vodaphone attempted to buy out AT&T Wireless not Cingular back when ATTWS was on the block. Now that nextel18 has generously supplied me with the data I requested, please tell me O silent one how receiving its last dividend check from VZW in 2005 is supposed to make Vodaphone happy?
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Do a little research and give us one example of a situation like this one where the FCC blocked the sale of one smaller co. to a much larger one. There are stipulations that have to be met.... But never a complete block.
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This is unprecedented. When Cingular's parent companies forked over the money to purchase ATTWS, Verizon had 43 million subscribers and the combined Cingular entity ended with 49 million. One could almost argue that Verizon needed to be shook up a bit, but not this time. Verizon and AT&T are nearly even at ninety-five million or so subscribers and now Cing...ahem AT&T is going to just swallow up T-Mobile and jump to over a hundred and thirty million subscribers and we're not even supposed to bat an eye at that? When the news dropped, I did not even believe it was a true story. I thought it was an April Fool's joke a few days early. We'll see what happens...
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I'm not saying don't bat an eye. I'm scared for my job here man. But go to t-mobiles parent co web site and read the press release there. This isn't a "ok we (tmobile) can't win so we are going to lay on our back and watch att finish us off." They are happy to sell tmobile. To d telecom, tmobile is another barganing chip to just play with. Like putting your 5 chip on midnight if you knew the next roll was going to be 66. They ar not just getting 39 billion. They are getting something like 20 some odd billion, and the rest as shares in att.... Plus a seat at the table where the att big boys make decisions. Ensuring more income in the huge market without having to manage a growing company on their own. I don't think even the fcc and doj can s...
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you bring up a great point. i think if this merger is to go through, t-mobile's jobs will almost all be in jeapordy. it will be very difficult to fire anyone from AT&T who is not in a union.
be positive you will have more than 2 years to adjust, if the merger is approved.
be positive you will have more than 2 years to adjust, if the merger is approved.
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Vodaphone bid up ATTWS in '04. I was just using them as an example because of that history. The point is: I do not want T-Mobile to go away. Another name change like from Powertel to Voicestream etc...I would not mind, but to be gobbled up for no good purpose...no.
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would be nice to see the competion onces it is approved. whats the next step from there. its like a NFL game and at&t is jerry jones and the dallas cowboys and verizon is like washington redskins which both teams will pay any amount of money to be the best. and im not worried bc i still have my same plan from alltel and im under contract so my plan will continue as long as i dont change it which vzw always trying to make me but it never works. 😁
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In the NFL Snyder has never won anything and the Redskins haven't since the 80's. Dallas won in the 90's but with Jimmy Johnson as coach and the one year with Switzer and Johnson's players coaches and scheme. What have they done lately. This is NOTHING like that. If those to maniacs, Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder could buy up the Patriots and the Packers and change those team's uniforms to those of the Redskins and Cowboys then yeah it might be similar. AT&T and Verizon are teams who are already winning the game paying off the other team to pack it up and go home or take of their helmets and put on the AT&T blue one or Verizon red one. This is simply insane. No. No. No.
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I don't care. I git my plan so I'm good. I say they just getting better. I'm not with at&t but this will make Verizon better bc they will try to go over that. I could care less who they buy as long as I continue to have good service and better phones. Plan is still and will be the same
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