HTC Intros Sensation 4G for T-Mobile
Why bother with a new T-Mobile device?
No way would I make an investment in a new T-Mobile device since T-Mobile will cease to exist. How will I know that this (or any) new T-Mobile device will work on AT&T's 3G/4G network? I don't to be stuck with an Android powered paperweight or be forced to switch to an AT&T device on a more expensive rate plan with a data cap.
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Forced to switch is right. That was done in all its glory back in 2004 when Cingular took over the old AT&T Wireless.
More expensive rate plans too. They would not grandfather over any plans either.
De La Vegas Cingular is the same devil with a different name now.
More expensive rate plans too. They would not grandfather over any plans either.
De La Vegas Cingular is the same devil with a different name now.
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I dont know what your talking about. I work for at&t and I still, to this day, see Cingular grandfathered rate plans. Now if you or whoever decided to upgrade to a smartphone or a better rate plan of course you would be subject to different terms... New deals require new plans...
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So? What does a Cingular grandfathered plan have to do with an ATTWS one. Cingular is the company that AT&T Mobility was so of course they kept their own plans unless they were TDMA ones which would eat them out of house and home (let them tell it). We are talking about a company about to be devoured by AT&T (just as ATTWS was by Cingular). Pay attention. How Cingular/AT&T Mobility executed that takeover IS relevant to how they will execute the absorption of T-Mobile. Let's stay on track here.
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I remember how excited I was about ATTWS' Unlimited GSM plan for $99.99. Damn that footprint was small and it was only for the first year then it would revert to 1500 peak minutes but that was slick marketing. The things they did to sign subscribers now THAT is how to take the money and run. Upgrades after six months, one year contract options pushed, waived activation fees. They did it all. Whatever it took to win in the short run and get taken over just to eliminate a loose cannon.
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Thank God someone remembers the old ATTWS and how things really worked. 🙂
I was working with ATTWS before October 2004 and Cingular devoured them for $41 Billion.
ATTWS did everything possible to tailor to subscriber needs. Yes they did it all.
Then De La Vega and Cingular came in and then it was change your phone and SIM card or the highway for you!
All ATTWS plans were not grandfathered!!!!
Cingular plans are still far and few because Cingular was De La Vega's company so why not grandfather them? Same devil with a different color. 😈
AT&T Mobility stands to lose keeping T-Mobiles better plans. But they will grandfather them over to save face during the acquisition.
Make even a mouse-fart of a change and BAM!!! 😲
I was working with ATTWS before October 2004 and Cingular devoured them for $41 Billion.
ATTWS did everything possible to tailor to subscriber needs. Yes they did it all.
Then De La Vega and Cingular came in and then it was change your phone and SIM card or the highway for you!
All ATTWS plans were not grandfathered!!!!
Cingular plans are still far and few because Cingular was De La Vega's company so why not grandfather them? Same devil with a different color. 😈
AT&T Mobility stands to lose keeping T-Mobiles better plans. But they will grandfather them over to save face during the acquisition.
Make even a mouse-fart of a change and BAM!!! 😲
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They won't keep T-Mobile's plan or their business model. What people fail to understand is that Alltel was a profitable company. They didn't give anything away and they didn't have huge parent companies who could afford to lose in the short run to win in a decade. So it makes more sense for VZW to keep some of Alltel's winning policies. T-Mobile is not a winning company. So why the HELL would AT&T keep price plans and policies that didn't do T-Mobile any good? AJ pointed this out in another posting and Menno has been saying the same about Sprint for years. How is giving it away working out for these guys again? Yeah, they're losing. Sure as a consumer, I love the cheap rate plans and true unlimited data plans, but obviously Verizon ...
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Well first of all its going to be at least a year before the Att takes over t-mobile. After that its not going to be an overnight switch. You're prolly looking at about another year before anything changes with the 3g/4g spectrum that t-mobile is currently using. So It'll be about 2 years before anything changes. That's IF the merger goes through.
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also consider that at&t wants tmobile for the 1700mhz spectrum we offer for our service so i wouldnt be worried that a phone wont work. all phones can work on both 1700 and 1800mhz spectrum thier just locked to specific networks if the merger were to go through then i would assume they would be locked to both so you can take full advantage of a larger more powerful network
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yes i am. 😁
however, just because there is a merger and att plans on using some of the aws spectrum for lte doesnt mean that once they take over, they'll immediate shut down all of that spectrum. Im guessing its gona be a very slow process, of switching it all to lte.
however, just because there is a merger and att plans on using some of the aws spectrum for lte doesnt mean that once they take over, they'll immediate shut down all of that spectrum. Im guessing its gona be a very slow process, of switching it all to lte.
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They claim they are going to use the AWS spectrum to roll out LTE so no those phones would not continue to work as they do now. The point is that even if T-Mobile customers were allowed to keep these phones the 3G would not work once AWS is switched out to LTE. They are screwed. No way would I sign a two year contract with T-Mobile with such uncertainty. How could anyone even contest the statement by the OP?
They claim they are going to use the AWS spectrum to roll out LTE so no those phones would not continue to work as they do now. The point is that even if T-Mobile customers were allowed to keep these phones the 3G would not work once AWS is switched out to LTE. They are screwed. No way would I sign a two year contract with T-Mobile with such uncertainty. How could anyone even contest the statement by the OP?
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So the two year contract would be with t-mobile right?
Do you think Att can legally change your service then make you pay a termination fee to them, for a contract that you didn't sign with them?
Do you have any idea how long it will take them to change the network, if the merger is completed? Plus the merger could end up taking longer than the projected 12 months.
Worst case scenario. You get an awesome high end device that you get to use on a fast 4g network, and in a year att shuts everything off that makes your awesome phone, awesome . So at that point you leave with no contract commitment and no termination fee, or you sign a contract with att and get a new lte device.
How is the worst case scenario even bad?
Do you think Att can legally change your service then make you pay a termination fee to them, for a contract that you didn't sign with them?
Do you have any idea how long it will take them to change the network, if the merger is completed? Plus the merger could end up taking longer than the projected 12 months.
Worst case scenario. You get an awesome high end device that you get to use on a fast 4g network, and in a year att shuts everything off that makes your awesome phone, awesome . So at that point you leave with no contract commitment and no termination fee, or you sign a contract with att and get a new lte device.
How is the worst case scenario even bad?
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It's terrible because I still invested TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in a PAPERWEIGHT! I never said that a T-Mobile customer WOULD pay an ETF if AT&T dealt with them in that manner.
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...what if one wants to keep the same device for five years (as I plan to with my current phone)?
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Your right not everybody likes to upgrade every 1-2 years. If the merger goes through and if you cant keep the phone that you have for the next 5 years(assuming were still using cellphone in 5 years) Then, you can be an adult and go find another phone that you like. You are an adult right?
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I don't know. Maybe I am too immature to see the logic in investing a year or even two of my life in a dead end device.
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They should at least come forward with a Quad and/or Pentaband 3g device. Then it would be a different story. Nokia and RIM figured it out, no reason why HTC and others couldn't.
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As long as this is a quad band 3G phone you will have no problem when/if this merger takes place. The problem will be when at&t-mobile create a LTE network then you will most likely need to buy a new phone. Exactly like Verizon now. only one phone can get the 4G network while joe somebody who just got his Iphone 4 the week before 4G launched is stuck on 3G for the life of his phone...
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I do not believe that is a sound analogy. At least Joe Somebody's 3G iphone will continue to work the same. Verizon claims they will keep 1x and EV-DO running until 2020. When AT&T transitions T-Mobile's AWS to LTE it is kaput for 3G for those T-Mobile customers who only have AWS 3G capable phones. They will HAVE to switch their phones out. Joe Somebody otherwise known as me knows that he doesn't have 4G but that's okay as long as he still has 3G...what he signed up for.
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