AT&T Says It Needs T-Mobile to Fix Network Problems
"Spectrum shortage"? You ain't got no "spectrum shortage"!
ATT & CEO Ralph de la Vega would lend far more credence to the "spectrum shortage" argument if AT&T were actually using the spectrum that AT&T acquired at FCC auctions and through other acquisitions the past five years.
Following the AWS 2100+1700 MHz auction in 2006 and the Upper/Lower 700 MHz auction in 2008, Phonescoop published a "Visual Guide" to the results of each auction. Take a look at the breadth of the spectrum that AT&T acquired.
AT&T AWS 2100+1700 MHz spectrum licensed footprint:
http://img.phonescoop.com/img/a/m/17532.gif »
AT&T Lower 700 MHz spectrum licensed footprint:
http://img.phonescoop.com/img/a/m/8661.gif »
AT&T has put none of that spectrum into commercial use. To repeat, none. No W-CDMA 2100+1700, as ...
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Following the AWS 2100+1700 MHz auction in 2006 and the Upper/Lower 700 MHz auction in 2008, Phonescoop published a "Visual Guide" to the results of each auction. Take a look at the breadth of the spectrum that AT&T acquired.
AT&T AWS 2100+1700 MHz spectrum licensed footprint:
http://img.phonescoop.com/img/a/m/17532.gif »
AT&T Lower 700 MHz spectrum licensed footprint:
http://img.phonescoop.com/img/a/m/8661.gif »
AT&T has put none of that spectrum into commercial use. To repeat, none. No W-CDMA 2100+1700, as ...
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I too was very surprised that the FCC hasn't forced them to utilize these spectrum holdings.
I have filed a complaint as of March 19th with the FCC on my thoughts and oppositional rendering of what the real issue is here.
Curious to know whether you have done the same?
On a side note:
Most individuals on these forums have expressed major concern, but I wonder how many have gone past the rant of forum posts, and actually performed a consumer's right to pass their legitimate points onto the FCC.
John B.
I have filed a complaint as of March 19th with the FCC on my thoughts and oppositional rendering of what the real issue is here.
Curious to know whether you have done the same?
On a side note:
Most individuals on these forums have expressed major concern, but I wonder how many have gone past the rant of forum posts, and actually performed a consumer's right to pass their legitimate points onto the FCC.
John B.
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I have. I also am watching the FCC website and soon as they post for public comment, I will be making that news available to my facebook group against this merger, http://www.facebook.com/saveourdroid , and I am pushing for heavy public focus on the FCC themselves, as well as DOJ. This merger destroys choices for rural America where they really only have 3 or 4 carriers right now. This also puts the fate of Android in some precarious hands because AT&T has notoriously been TERRIBLE in handling Android because of its relationship with the iPhone. T-Mobile offered choice, balance, and competition. It will be a sad day if this gets formally approved.
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What do you mean AT&T has been terrible in handling android? It has nothing to do with the iPhone other than that AT&T focused on a diff. handset style first, the android later...
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Well lets run down the laundry list shall we?
- Disabling the option to allow "side-loading" of applications. All applications must come from the market. Really? There are plenty of places that valid apps come from that are not in the market.
- Replacing Google with Yahoo because of "the lack of a calendar widget", which was AT&T's official response which proved to be a lie
- Restricting the Atrix from using the higher speed network to keep the iPhone image up that it is more powerful, when it's really not.
- Not carrying any Android phone with a "vanilla" OS
All of these points to that AT&T cannot be trusted to handle Android without a strong competitor like T-Mobile.
- Disabling the option to allow "side-loading" of applications. All applications must come from the market. Really? There are plenty of places that valid apps come from that are not in the market.
- Replacing Google with Yahoo because of "the lack of a calendar widget", which was AT&T's official response which proved to be a lie
- Restricting the Atrix from using the higher speed network to keep the iPhone image up that it is more powerful, when it's really not.
- Not carrying any Android phone with a "vanilla" OS
All of these points to that AT&T cannot be trusted to handle Android without a strong competitor like T-Mobile.
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jt82 said:
Well lets run down the laundry list shall we?
- Disabling the option to allow "side-loading" of applications. All applications must come from the market. Really? There are plenty of places that valid apps come from that are not in the market.
- Replacing Google with Yahoo because of "the lack of a calendar widget", which was AT&T's official response which proved to be a lie
- Restricting the Atrix from using the higher speed network to keep the iPhone image up that it is more powerful, when it's really not.
- Not carrying any Android phone with a "vanilla" OS
All of these points to that AT&T cannot be trusted to handle Android without a strong competitor like T-Mobile.
Has nothing...
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Slammer said:
I have filed a complaint as of March 19th with the FCC on my thoughts and oppositional rendering of what the real issue is here.
Curious to know whether you have done the same?
Slammer, your initial complaint will have no official effect. As jt82 points out, you must wait for T-Mobile & AT&T to file assignment applications w/ the FCC. Once they do, the FCC will open a public comment period. Then, you can file a comment letter or petition to deny. If you do so, you will become a party to the proceedings and will receive in the mail pounds upon pounds of documents detailing the spectrum holdings of T-Mobile, AT&T, and its competitors. If you make cogent points in your letter/petitio...
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It would cost more to roll out than buying T-Mobiles assets. I feel sorry for all the people that are about to get the boot. It's hard to find jobs right now.
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The point is , that a billionaire with a surplus of endless cash, should not be crying poverty.
And yes, many loyal associates of T-Mobile will loose their livelihood.
John B.
And yes, many loyal associates of T-Mobile will loose their livelihood.
John B.
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Question AJ,
The map shows an a great amount of spectrum. Why was ATT not given a time frame to use this? What is the difference in their situation as opposed to Sprint's timeline with their holdings?
John B.
The map shows an a great amount of spectrum. Why was ATT not given a time frame to use this? What is the difference in their situation as opposed to Sprint's timeline with their holdings?
John B.
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Slammer said:
The map shows an a great amount of spectrum. Why was ATT not given a time frame to use this? What is the difference in their situation as opposed to Sprint's timeline with their holdings?
AWS 2100+1700 MHz licenses have a renewal period of 15 years. So, AT&T has until fully 2021 to show "substantial service." This longer than usual license period is due in part to necessary relocation of incumbent users from the 1700 MHz uplink. But that is little excuse for AT&T. T-Mobile has overcome that obstacle and deployed truly "substantial service" in less than five years.
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AJ, I agree, then Sprint, should have 18 months to deploy all its holdings or lose it, same with the Clear. Oh wait, they're not AT&T so the rules should be different.
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Versed said:
AJ, I agree, then Sprint, should have 18 months to deploy all its holdings or lose it, same with the Clear. Oh wait, they're not AT&T so the rules should be different.
Sprint & Clear are using their spectrum holdings, are withholding very little spectrum. In fact, Clear faces a May 1 buildout deadline for its BRS 2500/2600 MHz spectrum. And this in part is why WiMAX deployments have been popping up around the country in places such as Altoona, PA; Great Bend, KS; Casper, WY, etc.
Additionally, Sprint & Clear are not calling upon the FCC to allow them to acquire another national carrier to stockpile even more spectrum, as AT&T will soon be doing. So, that is not even remotely parallel.
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Seriously? You have a defense for AT&T hoarding that spectrum and it is that Sprint is. Many of the pro-Sprint posters who defend Sprint going with Wi-Max that they had to use the spectrum or lose it and Wi-Max was ready and LTE was not so there really was no choice. Anyway... Nice to see you have a good back pedal but let's stay on the topic of AT&T planning to use T-Mobile's AWS spectrum for LTE when they have not even used their own.
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Of course, this is not about spectrum. This is about eliminating a competitor. AT&T can make whatever argument but it is that simple. I cannot say that I blame them. They did the same thing when ATTWS was on the chopping block. I cannot believe this is happening.
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I absolutely can believe this is happening. What is far more alarming, are the chances that this merge could become reality.
Children separated at birth, only to be reunited years later as tag team partners.
John B.
Children separated at birth, only to be reunited years later as tag team partners.
John B.
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