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Well thank god it wasn't Sprint!!!!

AndroidRules

Mar 20, 2011, 2:07 PM
Ok the initial shock is wearing off..

So what if we have one GSM carrier. We'll have all the coverage in the world and spectrum galore!! Not only that but us magenta users wont have to worry about boarding Sprint's sinking ship!

This was the only logical outcome honestly. Sprint and T-Mo would have been impractical and not in the best interest of either party or the consumer. Sprint uses different technologies, has too many financial problems, etc. Let them die on their own. Sprint's the Titanic and AT&T is the Carpathia. The choice was obvious
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Great Gadsden

Mar 20, 2011, 2:08 PM
So, I take it facts aren't going to be used in this discussion?
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AndroidRules

Mar 20, 2011, 2:09 PM
Great Gadsden said:
So, I take it facts aren't going to be used in this discussion?


Money talks and bull$hit walks.
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Great Gadsden

Mar 20, 2011, 2:19 PM
So, Sprint posting a profit means they're doing good, right?
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T Bone

Mar 20, 2011, 3:44 PM
They are doing better, not necessarily doing well. They are still not meeting the expectations of their stockholders.
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JeffroPuff

Mar 20, 2011, 8:59 PM
agree 110%
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CamelTowing

Mar 20, 2011, 4:21 PM
Great Gadsden said:
So, I take it facts aren't going to be used in this discussion?


They never are with this putz! 🤣
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AndroidRules

Mar 20, 2011, 4:30 PM
CamelTowing said:


They never are with this putz! 🤣


Awww you can't handle the truth so you have to resort to petty name calling. Isn't that bit childish?

All because Sprint posts a little profit gain doesn't mean they're doing well. If you would actually take time to do research you'll find that their stockholders are still very nervous. Google is your friend but don't use it on your Evo though. It doesn't have enough stamina to last an hour with 4G turned on
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CamelTowing

Mar 20, 2011, 4:42 PM
AndroidRules said:


Awww you can't handle the truth so you have to resort to petty name calling. Isn't that bit childish?

All because Sprint posts a little profit gain doesn't mean they're doing well. If you would actually take time to do research you'll find that their stockholders are still very nervous. Google is your friend but don't use it on your Evo though. It doesn't have enough stamina to last an hour with 4G turned on



I have a Shift, putz. And you insult anything that isn't ATT. And wtf do you mean "can't handle it"?
It's your precious ATT that won't be able to "handle it". ATT will have to divest MOST of Tmobs network because Tmob is an overlapping network with ATT... Almost everywhere ...
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Great Gadsden

Mar 20, 2011, 4:45 PM
🤣

I know, right?
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Ghosthendrikson

Mar 21, 2011, 1:19 PM
CamelTowing said:


I have a Shift, putz. And you insult anything that isn't ATT. And wtf do you mean "can't handle it"?
It's your precious ATT that won't be able to "handle it". ATT will have to divest MOST of Tmobs network because Tmob is an overlapping network with ATT... Almost everywhere Tmob has coverage, ATT has equal or better coverage already there. The only real benefit ATT gets out of this is the 1700 band and any of Tmobs 1900 where ATT only has 850. Everything else will be sold... to Sprint or other carriers.
So congrats, all ATT has managed to accomplish is to add 35 million customers to a slightly larger network. Sounds like fun... if you like dropped calls.
And since Sprint is now THE alternative to t
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MrGuder

Mar 20, 2011, 4:48 PM
CamelTowing said:


They never are with this putz! 🤣


Actually he seems to be quite knowledgeable most of the time. Did you actually have anything to contribute to the discusson at hand other than to resort to pointless flaming at someone who has a contrasting view from your own? I didn't think so.

Yes Sprint is doing better these days but it's still not good enough. Hence while the deal with DT fell through. WiMAX was a huge mistake and they will pay the price. Sprint has a history of making very bad business decsions. They don't deserve to be saved.
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sp_5015

Mar 20, 2011, 9:51 PM
Everytime I hear someone say Sprint made a horrible decision by choosing wimax I realize they don't know the background. Sprint was obligated to use their spectrum for 4g and wimax was the technology that was available the soonest. They can change to LTE fairly easily. Sprint has turned the ship and is def headed in the right direction. You don't go from worst to first overnight. Stop Sprint bashing.... as Charlie Sheen would say, mindless trolls
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Iknownothing

Mar 20, 2011, 10:52 PM
I'm so tired of hearing that Wimax was a mistake. Sprint had no choice. Deploying a 4g network withing a certain time frame was a condition of the nextel buyout and LTE wasnt ready. End of story. As a technology it is every bit as good as lte. Furthermore at the time they went with it everyone expected Verizon to go with evdo rev c as their 4g upgrade path, which would have simply made sprint and big red uniqe and given the consumer more choice. But since Europe decided their upgrade path in the freakin 80's and are stickin by it its economics of scale that are dictating technology and not the tech on it's own merit.

Based on strength of the technology and the speeds Verizon is getting I think we can safely say the Clear's implement...
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Azeron

Mar 20, 2011, 11:14 PM
I got the impression that Verizon was going to bid whatever it took to get it.
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Jayshmay

Mar 21, 2011, 6:07 AM
They eneded up paying $9.4bln, right?

Based on Phone Scoop's review of the Thunderbolt, it loading webpages instantly, seems like that 700mhz was well worth it.
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dj89

Mar 20, 2011, 2:24 PM
Just because my carrier sucks doesn't mean AT&T is great. That's like saying you're smarter than a kindergarden class.
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analyst422

Mar 20, 2011, 2:26 PM
dj89 said:
Just because my carrier sucks doesn't mean AT&T is great. That's like saying you're smarter than a kindergarden class.


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dj89

Mar 20, 2011, 2:31 PM
Well, there you go. Shows what happens when you try judging people without being properly educated...
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T Bone

Mar 20, 2011, 3:45 PM
Kindergartners are not stupid, they lack knowlege and experience, but they are just as intelligent and creative as adults.
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Azeron

Mar 20, 2011, 9:54 PM
Exactly. Verizon "wins" those Consumer Report surveys with 'C' grades. That's not excellence. That is just better than mediocrity. They all suck.
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T Bone

Mar 20, 2011, 10:40 PM
What they don't tell you about those Consumer Reports surveys are that the standard deviation is such that the end is really a four way tie...there is little statistical difference between the 4 companies....moreover, the customers who are part of the survey live in places like New York and San Francisco, where all carriers have difficulty providing service due to an extremely dense population and overloaded towers...

It's far from a properly scientific study...
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Azeron

Mar 20, 2011, 11:00 PM
Oh, I know. I would have a customer come into my store when I worked at Alltel crowing about Verizon which back in 2002 had HORRIBLE PCS coverage in my area. Number four AT BEST. I would look at their Consumer Reports magazine and say "Do you live or travel in any of these places?" Back then the Verizon store in my area survived by waiving activation fees and discounting phones. It was pretty sad actually. When they "merged" they shut down the PCS SID altogether which shows what it was really worth all alone.
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T Bone

Mar 20, 2011, 11:03 PM
When I worked for at&t I had customers complaining about how at&t ranked fourth on the survey, and I tried to explain that at&t's results were within one standard deviation of Verizon's so the results were practically identical and the real news was that the companies were just about equal....most of them didn't have a clue what I was talking about and accused me of making it up... 🙄
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Slammer

Mar 20, 2011, 4:19 PM
I've been on this forum for several years now and all you have done is promote your hatred for Sprint.

If this acquisition goes through, you are going to be very , very sorry you didn't give Sprint the benefit of the doubt. I think your insight is shallow, ignorant, without merit and this makes you very dangerous as a consumer. You would sell your Mother to see competition go away. This industry needs a third power, not a more powerful duopoly.

Do you realize what this will do to the subscribers of the industry? If you work for a carrier, you obviously see this as an opportunity to obtain easier sales for yourself while enjoying heavily discounted price plans. The rest of us will suffer.

I am sure you are a consumer outside the wi...
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CamelTowing

Mar 20, 2011, 4:34 PM
Your assessment of this clown is spot on. There are many more just like him.
Like you were saying, there is actually nothing but good news for Sprint here.
The fact is that Sprint still owns more spectrum than ATT and Verizon COMBINED. They have the capacity to let their customers have unlimited everything for a much cheaper price for many years to come.
And before this merger, customers running to get the hell away from VZW or ATT had two very good alternatives. Now they have one.
Sprint is going to get net adds just from that alone.
And I honestly don't see VZW buying Sprint ever. They couldn't afford Sprint's spectrum holdings much less the rest of the company.
Brown Telephone was a genius when it came to understanding the long te...
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Versed

Mar 20, 2011, 4:49 PM
Except its so high up, it has trouble penetrating a paper bag.
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Jayshmay

Mar 21, 2011, 6:27 AM
🤣 "so high up it can't penetrate a paper bag" 🤣
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Slammer

Mar 20, 2011, 8:38 PM
Verizon has marketed itself as " America's Largest Network". I don't think it would be out of the question now for VZW courting Sprint for the future. If ATT gets away with breaking down the competitive edge within the industry, I say VZW will entertain the option as well. Money has been chump change for Verizon. If there is a way to leverage their clout in purchases, they will do it at all costs.

I'm not very open minded with this acquisition. The FCC and DOJ have consistantly embraced these two telecoms over a long history span. If ATT does succeed, the strength of consumer choice and integrity of competition edging will be breached. All will be lost.

John B.
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Azeron

Mar 20, 2011, 10:02 PM
Verizon made overtures to Sprint following Cingular's acquisition of ATTWS, also and were turned away cold. I don't think that "merger" takes place without a total collapse by Sprint. As much as many may wish for that to happen...I most assuredly do not. Even with three carriers...prices are sure to rise. Two would be disastrous especially since AT&T matches VZW pricing dollar for dollar in most cases. Don't need to collude when there are only two. Just glide through a few stores and then make the appropriate changes. We need MORE carriers not fewer ones.
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hbgguy11

Mar 21, 2011, 7:14 AM
Your just rambling like a tmobile employee about to get laid off in 12 months get to the main points of your argument, we are not talking about verizon acquiring sprint we are talking about att and tmobile. Verizon just acquired alltel which would leave the relatively smart consumer to think another bid for another large company would be rejected wouldnt you think. So be clear and let us know your issues.
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 8:11 PM
One wouldn't think that AT&T would be allowed to buy T-Mobile either, but they are trying.
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T Bone

Mar 20, 2011, 4:35 PM
"I've been on this forum for several years now and all you have done is promote your hatred for Sprint. "

We all have our personal agendas and opinions here, many of us are actually employees of the companies we defend.....

That doesn't mean their opinion is somehow illegitimate.
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CamelTowing

Mar 20, 2011, 4:50 PM
T Bone said:
"I've been on this forum for several years now and all you have done is promote your hatred for Sprint. "

We all have our personal agendas and opinions here, many of us are actually employees of the companies we defend.....

That doesn't mean their opinion is somehow illegitimate.


Unfortunately that's exactly what it means.
Whenever we are talking about unbiased opinions, you can't rely on the company line or call center employees for unbiased opinions or even the truth.
These people are not held to a journalistic or even editorial standard that requires anything besides a misinformed lie.

So when looking for the truth, it seems easier and much more reliable to look in places that a...
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Great Gadsden

Mar 20, 2011, 4:53 PM
Out of curiosity, do you trust other large news anchors?

I know FOX is heavily biased, just asking about your opinion on the others.
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Jayshmay

Mar 21, 2011, 6:44 AM
MSNBC is extremely biased! As in liberal! Yucky!

I think CNN is most news, and more news. With MSNBC it's more obvious.
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T Bone

Mar 20, 2011, 5:35 PM
That the argumentum ad hominem is not actually a logical fallacy.....

Ooooooooooooookay.
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Great Gadsden

Mar 20, 2011, 5:37 PM
Right? 😛
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T Bone

Mar 20, 2011, 5:45 PM
Works for me.... 😁
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Jayshmay

Mar 21, 2011, 6:37 AM
Personally I don't understand people who work in the industry that are so, so biased. It's a job people. These CEOs have NO loyalty to their $10/hr employees, so why be loyal to them. It's a job, a means to keep bills paid.
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MrGuder

Mar 20, 2011, 5:30 PM
Making someone out to be a bully all because their opinion differs from yours. Really? So much for first amendment rights. I know some of of us are more passionate than others John B but your post was completely over the top and uncalled for. Take a Xanax. Honestly 🙄
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Azeron

Mar 20, 2011, 10:09 PM
What does the First Amendment have to do with anything. Is the Federal government attempting to abridge someone's right to speak here?
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iDont Care

Mar 20, 2011, 5:34 PM
Slammer said:
I've been on this forum for several years now and all you have done is promote your hatred for Sprint.

If this acquisition goes through, you are going to be very , very sorry you didn't give Sprint the benefit of the doubt. I think your insight is shallow, ignorant, without merit and this makes you very dangerous as a consumer. You would sell your Mother to see competition go away. This industry needs a third power, not a more powerful duopoly.

Do you realize what this will do to the subscribers of the industry? If you work for a carrier, you obviously see this as an opportunity to obtain easier sales for yourself while enjoying heavily discounted price plans. The rest of us will suffer.

I am sure
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Slammer

Mar 21, 2011, 1:46 PM
Absolutely nothing. Your opinion doesn't differ from others.

However, I would like to ask what this has to do with securing the competitive market which my concern is about?

The carrier that sucks, is helping keep prices at a plateau.

John B.
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JeffroPuff

Mar 20, 2011, 9:07 PM
Holy crap, dude. Chill out.

So this is a T-Mobile customer that is happy that his carrier is being absorbed by a healthier and larger company (with compatible network infrastructure) and you're tearing him apart?

What is wrong about what he said, aside from his opinion differing from yours? Sure, comparing the Titanic to Sprint is a little dramatic, but seriously?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions...

Your "THE END IS NEAR!!!!" post is a taaaaaaad unnecessary. Sorry.
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AndroidRules

Mar 20, 2011, 9:22 PM
Exactly Jeff. Thank you. I'm last person on earth who is anti-consumer and gets joy out of seeing thousands of hard working people lose their jobs. I'm in the industry myself for crying out loud. I got a wife and two kids. Don't mistake me for the Tea Party now lol.

I'm not exactly 100% happy about the situation but I feel it was for the best. DT didn't have much of a choice. It was either go with a cash rich company like AT&T who uses like technology or go with Sprint. Come on now their $20 billion offer was downright insulting.

Seriously though we can all be pretty passionate at times. Especially when it comes to religion and politics. I think the problem Jeff is that certain individuals think that they're smarter than others. Tech...
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Slammer

Mar 21, 2011, 5:41 AM
I don't know how long you have been in the business or a consumer of the business. But for a little over twenty three years I have been a subscriber, I witnessed the Government and FCC coddle VZW and ATT on every move these two have made. With every one of these moves, concerns of abolishing a competitive marketplace have been drawn and submitted to underscore the possibility of monopolization within the industry. These attempts have gone ignored and cast aside as no concern. Now we fast forward to the present, and the concerns need to register.

As a fellow poster to these forums, I feel my opinion is no different in value than the OP's. The similarity separates itself when he has an employed position with a carrier and I am a paying cons...
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Jayshmay

Mar 21, 2011, 7:13 AM
Perhaps Sprint should consider buying MetroPCS, or Cricket.

I'd certainly like to see the name Cricket cease to exist, I just don't get why a wireless company is named after an insect!!!!
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 8:09 PM
No. Metro has first dibs on Leap.
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hbgguy11

Mar 21, 2011, 7:20 AM
You sound kinda silly crying about your choices being taken away and not being happy with the potential of what you would be getting if T-Mobile's buyout get approved. You are just a consumer looking to complain about everything we have all had you or someone like you in our places of business crying about your product not being up to your level of satisfaction and returning for no real reason, quit complaining about little things and realize that eventhough you work for verizon and or tmobile other options will become available to you.
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Slammer

Mar 21, 2011, 8:04 AM
Your comments in regards to my posts are valid and noted. I am mature enough to understand that that my opinions are not always the views of others. I also notice you are new to this forum as of today. If you are a member that has been referred to as another user name and changed it to protect a certain respectable alliance, I would much rather you express your opinions as that user name. I would not be offended. There are many members I may not always agree with, but I respect their knowledge and opinions. I have nothing to hide in my experience as a consumer or my thoughts. That is why I always sign off on my posts with my name.

I am however, NOT employed by any carrier, my passion for any carrier is limited to what services best suit...
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Azeron

Mar 21, 2011, 8:19 PM
I wonder how much the politicians will make in PAC money off of AT&T? Not to mention the under table bribes.
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Versed

Mar 21, 2011, 9:44 PM
Azeron said:
I wonder how much the politicians will make in PAC money off of AT&T? Not to mention the under table bribes.


I guess they will be booking some nice easter time Cayman Island trips.
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Azeron

Mar 20, 2011, 9:57 PM
If he works for AT&T or T-Mobile he may be looking for work in a year or two. They won't be needing all those employees once "synergies" are realized.
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hbgguy11

Mar 21, 2011, 7:10 AM
Well you didnt really say any of your concerncs other then increased pricing discounts on the phones and services which doesnt sound all that bad to consumers and more opps for the workers in the wireless industry which doesnt sound bad either. Now I agree we do need competition but there will still be competition out there, sprint would still be there as well as more local companies and prepaid options, this is business bud only the strong turn a profit and survive and that is what this is. Why dont you go into the concerns you sent to the FCC which hopefully are better then your post so we can all see
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Azeron

Mar 20, 2011, 9:36 PM
T-Mobile staying a separate company would have been the best solution if only someone else besides an existing carrier had made a bid.
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Versed

Mar 20, 2011, 9:48 PM
I think TMO had the hardest time for a buy out. No 4g spectrum, losing money and clients. Don't get me wrong, they are good company. If a White Knight (Cough Google) was to procure a carrier outright, it would be Sprint. The whole packing, including holdings with Clear are far more inviting.
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Caucasian

Mar 21, 2011, 9:20 AM
I'd crap my pants with glee if Google bought us out. I don't think they want to get into the service industry though.

But a cash influx of that magnitude would be crazy.
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