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MetroPCS Sues FCC Over Net Neutrality, Too

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how can anyone who uses the internet be against net neutrality?

mkl4466

Jan 25, 2011, 8:46 PM
We owe it to net neutrality, as it currently exists, that we can even have this conversation online. We have a right to speak out against the government, but we are not guaranteed that privilege when it comes to speaking out against corporations when using their own property. I am connecting to the internet using Verizon's landline DSL system. If Phonescoop ran an article that voiced a negative opinion of Verizon Wireless, which is half owned by Verizon communications, the lack of net neutrality could allow Verizon to block its customers from accessing phonescoop.com. I don't want my ISP to have control over what websites I have access to. And under the guess of "managing their network" and "prioritizing data", Verizon could throttle connect...
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Iknownothing

Jan 25, 2011, 11:46 PM
Of course you're absolutely right, but it goes beyond that. We have to look at this also from the side of the entrepreneur. Say you have a great idea for a start up business on the old intertubes, you get some capital together and now you're making money, a lot of money. Enough money that Comcast notices and decides to launch a competing business. Now Comcast doesn't need to compete by being better than you at your service, they simply throttle your page until its unusable while advertising their own competing for free to their entire user base. The idea of a non neutral net is utterly stifling to small business innovation.

But let's take it a step further. Let's say that an issue like net neutrality is on the politely table. An ...
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trenen

Jan 26, 2011, 11:22 AM
The ISP is a private establishment. They have the right to operate their service as they see fit, whether you agree with it or not. The Internet is not 'public', which is why this whole thing is against the 5th amendment. The government is trying to control the Internet like it's a public utility and that's against the law. People are making up these fantastical 'what if' scenarios like the book you just wrote and not looking at this from a logical and legal perspective - thus why we have a bunch of jackasses running the government right now.
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justfinethanku

Jan 26, 2011, 1:53 PM
perfectly said.
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thebigsaxon

Jan 28, 2011, 12:53 PM
Too bad it's wrong. The entire premise is that the entire internet is privately owned when it is not.
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ELawson87

Jan 26, 2011, 6:04 PM
Here's your logical, legal perspective:

1) The internet is not a privately-owned enterprise. It is not owned by Comcast, Verizon, Charter, or any other company, despite what they want you to believe. They charge a monthly fee for access, which is perfectly acceptable, but they have no right to control what their customers do with that access.

2) The 5th amendment does not apply. The 5th amendment reads:

"No person shall be held to answer fr a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in...
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thebigsaxon

Jan 28, 2011, 12:54 PM
Excellently said. These Corporatists are going to be the death of this country.
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thebigsaxon

Jan 28, 2011, 12:52 PM
The Internet is public domain though. That is the base of the entire Net Neutrality debate. Corporations like Verizon, Comcast and ATT may manage their network components but the entire base of the internet was funded by the US government through grants & subsidies. This is no different than when ATT was first divested in the early 1980's.

Maybe you should read up on that before you start talking nonsense. And when you get finished reading up on the ATT divestiture you then need to read the Antitrust laws we have.
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