Nasty Android Trojan Discovered
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Yeah but there are alot of apps NOT on the market. ☹️ Well I still have my Blackberry 🙂
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Android is "Open" because you can download 3rd party software that is not found in Googles app store... but by side loading these "open" applications you can get malicious code. So the only way to prevent getting "infected" software is by using the Google Market thus creating an even smaller store than what iOS offers.
So my question is this; How is Android more open when you are cant even use the main "advantage" over iOS?
So my question is this; How is Android more open when you are cant even use the main "advantage" over iOS?
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But no one is saying you can not use the advantage just know what you are downloading
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There's a lot of good third party apps too very rarely are any of the malicious.Actually this is the only one I've heard of and its in China. You just need to research what your downloading before you download it. 🙂
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First, I don't know that THAT is the main advantage over iOS, but open means that anyone can create for that OS, and it is up to the user to say what they want to use and what they don't want to yous. Additionally, a higher percentage of the Android apps are free.
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I don't know that researching the app makes any difference. Correct me if I'm wrong but according to this article it's not "what" you're downloading but "where" you are downloading it from. "it grafts itself onto other software that a user may legitimately download"
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Legitimate software that...ohh, I don't know...was maybe pirated? If people stick to the SOURCE of the software, things like this won't happen (or very, very, very rarely). You can download third-party software all you want, just make sure the sources you're downloading from are verified, authorized, or the developer themselves. Not hard. I have a sneaking suspicion if you get a virus you deserve it. 🤨
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You sound correct to me. As with downloading anything you should check file sizes from multiple sources (both before and after downloading.) That would offer the best protection IMHO. Someone who has a junk Android phone should install some of the antivirus apps and try to get a version of this trojan and see if it is detected then we can end the debate of if an antivirus does any good or not.
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like! and if i may add, it is basically open for developers not necessarily to users, and chances of getting a virus is always there.. no matter how open(or close) an OS is...
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The advantage of an open platform over a closed one is freedom, but freedom has a downside, with freedom comes responsibility and risk.
On the whole, I think we all agree that the benefits of freedom are worth the risks.
I understand that North Korea has very little street crime...but do we really want to live in a totalitarian police state?
On the whole, I think we all agree that the benefits of freedom are worth the risks.
I understand that North Korea has very little street crime...but do we really want to live in a totalitarian police state?
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comparing a devices "freedom" to a way of life is nonsense. Especially sense the whole idea of Android is to watch EVERYTHING you do so it can be sold at your expense. How is that "open"
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All of these companies take some liberties with our freedoms! Apple wants to have complete control over what network you can use it on & where you get your apps. Microsoft with Windows tried to force us to use all of their built in apps instead of using better apps from other sources... internet explorer anyone? They were told by the courts that they can't do that. Now, google is quickly trying to control our lives between their search, browser, operating system and now Android OS.
Then there are the providers. They are the worst! AT&T, Verizon, etc... they all try to force us to use their app stores, they disable features on phone's so that people cannot use things like use navigation, WIFI, tethering, and 3rd party apps. There ...
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Then there are the providers. They are the worst! AT&T, Verizon, etc... they all try to force us to use their app stores, they disable features on phone's so that people cannot use things like use navigation, WIFI, tethering, and 3rd party apps. There ...
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I'm not sure of what they are watching EVERYTHING I do for or who they are selling it to, but I haven't been solicited by anything I haven't asked to because of my Android device. 👀 But, I'm pretty sure "open" and "freedom" are not interchangeable terms. However, to me, "open" means I can use it as it best suits me. I have the "freedom" to choose to use 3 party apps, carrier's apps, or whatever apps I want. I have the freedom to use my MP3s, my iTunes, Slacker radio, or Pandora radio. If I have the programing skills, I can make an app for the Android Market because it is open source, I can't do that without paying fees and going through approval from Apple on iOS. Open also means I can root it and do even more, but at a higher risk ...
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i am going to have to agree with you.
i like the freedom and responsibility to be able to manage , fix, break , install, uninstall and do whatever i wish with MY EQUIPMENT
i like the freedom and responsibility to be able to manage , fix, break , install, uninstall and do whatever i wish with MY EQUIPMENT
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"comparing a devices "freedom" to a way of life is nonsense"
Then I suppose it is a good thing that I didn't do that
I merely made the point with increased freedom comes increased risk and that the only way to achieve a complete lack of risk is by completely eliminating freedom
Do you deny this basic observation?
Then I suppose it is a good thing that I didn't do that
I merely made the point with increased freedom comes increased risk and that the only way to achieve a complete lack of risk is by completely eliminating freedom
Do you deny this basic observation?
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you seem to have a misconception as to what "open" [source] means.. It means noone pays for Android OS.. its free.. the code is open for all to use and implement... Thus why you sell 100's of Android Tablets super cheap... because the OS is free to use and re-distribute.. this is Open..
Windows 7 OS(not winMO or WP7) cost almost $100 for manufactures to use.. Windows 7 OS on netbooks, only $25 or so.. but they must stay under 2ghz and have smaller specs - this is why netbooks are so cheap.. this is NOT Open...
Final example, the HSPL unlockers for winMO devices.. though free, the code is not Open to be reused.. it is not open to distribution or re-tooling of your own design.. thus the Unlocker is not open source...
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Windows 7 OS(not winMO or WP7) cost almost $100 for manufactures to use.. Windows 7 OS on netbooks, only $25 or so.. but they must stay under 2ghz and have smaller specs - this is why netbooks are so cheap.. this is NOT Open...
Final example, the HSPL unlockers for winMO devices.. though free, the code is not Open to be reused.. it is not open to distribution or re-tooling of your own design.. thus the Unlocker is not open source...
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It's the best of both worlds.
If you want a (somewhat) curated selection of safe apps, there's the Market. Same as Apple.
If you want to take a risk and load whatever you want, you can side-load. Apple doesn't offer that.
So what's the drawback? It is more open. You have a choice.
What's the alternative? There's always going to be a risk when you step outside the "approved garden". That's the way it works with any platform.
If you want a (somewhat) curated selection of safe apps, there's the Market. Same as Apple.
If you want to take a risk and load whatever you want, you can side-load. Apple doesn't offer that.
So what's the drawback? It is more open. You have a choice.
What's the alternative? There's always going to be a risk when you step outside the "approved garden". That's the way it works with any platform.
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Funny thing is, if you jailbreak your iPhone to allow the installation of apps/hacks not allowed in the app store, you run the same risk.
A lot of people forgot to change their root passwords when they jailbreak.
A lot of people forgot to change their root passwords when they jailbreak.
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Also keep in mind that the Android market has roughly 200K apps in it now.
As well, being that it is open source, there are fewer barriers to developers to create an app and get it in the market place.
Lastly, by being open, there is more to it than simply "open app support"... it is also the simple fact that Android OS is fully released to the general public in all its glory for anyone to do whatever they want to with it. The open part is much more for the hacker than anyone else.
As well, being that it is open source, there are fewer barriers to developers to create an app and get it in the market place.
Lastly, by being open, there is more to it than simply "open app support"... it is also the simple fact that Android OS is fully released to the general public in all its glory for anyone to do whatever they want to with it. The open part is much more for the hacker than anyone else.
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trenen said:
Thus why The Market exists.
What... out of the goodness of their heart, Google created the Android Marketplace for user's safety?
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What about the fact that Google, by my definition anyway, is spy-ware? Don't they track everything you do through their various services and applications and use that information in order to be able to sell the use of that information to advertisers? Not to mention the share that they earn from marketplace listings?
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yah but maybe their original intention is pure just like a Shepherd protection its sheep...lol
but seriously...
First of all platforms such as apple/ios does the exact same thing. They collect your info and they do whatever they want with it. Secondly Android is free for carriers/manufactures to implement... so what? Google's some how not supposed to make money?
but seriously...
First of all platforms such as apple/ios does the exact same thing. They collect your info and they do whatever they want with it. Secondly Android is free for carriers/manufactures to implement... so what? Google's some how not supposed to make money?
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You're right, Google is supposed to make money, I was just really making light of the original post.
On the other hand when people say how great Google is for providing this free and open Android OS, they need to open their eyes to the bigger picture.
At risk of sounding like our grandparents, nothing is ever free.
On the other hand when people say how great Google is for providing this free and open Android OS, they need to open their eyes to the bigger picture.
At risk of sounding like our grandparents, nothing is ever free.
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carried milk to my neighbor's houses in my hands, barefooted, in the snow, uphill both ways with out the new fangled, fancy-shmancy bucket and hot rod, rock n roll car! GIT OFFA MY LAWN! 😳
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i'm astounded anyone is surprised by this ..
just another excuse for another round of Android vs iOS handbags....
i do most of my banking, keep credit card / financial information and tons of work stuff on my phone .. why wouldn't someone want to hack it? smartphones are the new computers and those who choose to make a living taking advantage of others are going to find more creative ways to do so ..
give it another year or two and everyone will have anti-virus on their phone .. it'll come pre-loaded on iPhone 7 and jack up the price even more....
just another excuse for another round of Android vs iOS handbags....
i do most of my banking, keep credit card / financial information and tons of work stuff on my phone .. why wouldn't someone want to hack it? smartphones are the new computers and those who choose to make a living taking advantage of others are going to find more creative ways to do so ..
give it another year or two and everyone will have anti-virus on their phone .. it'll come pre-loaded on iPhone 7 and jack up the price even more....
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The Chinese are the utmost masters at copying and hacking anything out there.
Why do you think everything from the $100 bill down to the $5 bill has been redone?
Why do you think everything from the $100 bill down to the $5 bill has been redone?
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I just figured that was effect from the Mexican drug cartel laundering money all the time across our borders....not because of a country thousands and thousands of miles away across an entire ocean. 😉
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